tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post1143200927756559603..comments2024-03-28T10:43:26.059+01:00Comments on Eivind Berge's Blog: Beware of sex-negative MRAsEivind Bergehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comBlogger145125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-88047558890932263562013-09-19T12:34:29.255+02:002013-09-19T12:34:29.255+02:00The scumbags in law enforcement don't care if ...The scumbags in law enforcement don't care if a crime is victimless. They only care about exerting the tyrannical malice of the government any way they can. Notice the long list of meaningless crimes they have available to charge you with in the hope that something will stick.<br /><br />"They faced charges of bestiality, conspiracy and disseminating obscene materials, with Amber Fox facing an additional charge of soliciting a crime against nature."Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-78129847386578543832013-06-03T18:06:54.526+02:002013-06-03T18:06:54.526+02:00This post was about the immorality of punishing pe...This post was about the immorality of punishing people for victimless sex crimes. This has nothing to do with being "spoiled rotten" or narcissistic or feeling entitled. It does, however, mean I am not brainwashed by hateful feminist sex laws which construct false victims and most bizarrely of all, pretend boys are victims of older women when it is plain to all that they are lucky. You have evidently internalized these insane norms, being a product of your sex-hostile society. Judging from your irrational hostility you are probably an American, since that is where the most ridiculously high ages of consent and other bizarre sex crimes are institutionalized and brainwashed into the populace.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-81813721778628680412013-05-17T23:59:31.752+02:002013-05-17T23:59:31.752+02:00My prediction is that non-feminist women will driv...My prediction is that non-feminist women will drive social change on the sex issue first. People such as the women involved in organisations like b4u-act have set an example. More people will see that actually most men have forbidden feelings, and when that becomes clear, women will have to change their tone.<br /><br />Feminism is better off perpetuating the myth that only a few deviant men have forbidden feelings, rather than the vast majority of men. If the public had to acknowledge how common it is, then feminism would not be able to make most men cower in a state of unarticulated and uncomfortable guilt. <br /><br />There are other factors at play also, I think. Many early feminists experienced father-daughter incest, so they particularly like to over-generalize about their own experiences. At the same time, women can appreciate the idea of intimacy with youth, but they feel some jealousy over men because it is not in line with women's relationship goals. Women go for handsome men not because they are "handsomer" than boys, but because boys cannot do very much for women (a feminist once said to me "what can a teenaged boy do for me that my rich boyfriend can't?"). Hence when women discarded certain aspects of their old gender roles and declared men useless to them, people like Germaine Greer felt they could now openly appreciate boys erotically.<br /><br />At the same time, the same women want to believe that the concept of "sex drive" is equivalent between the genders. On that point, ironically, a far right web site in the US has a tract saying that it is indeed very different - on the basis of the gland in the male pelvis which compels the brain to empty it daily (more than daily, for youth), a process for which there is no female counterpart. Women can choose to like sex (though many don't know how), or perhaps on a monthly cycle might feel compelled to find a mate, but nothing compels them physiologically to achieve orgasm on a daily basis the way the male body does.Watchfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-33077199964241006692013-05-16T23:20:05.879+02:002013-05-16T23:20:05.879+02:00Yes, it's astonishing how obtuse and dimwitted...Yes, it's astonishing how obtuse and dimwitted they can be. The AVfM crowd have drunk the feminist sex-hostility Kool-Aid completely and cannot bear to face reality because it would create dissonance with their simpleminded brainwashing. Questioning the prevailing sexual abuse definitions would mean thinking unclean thoughts, and that is forbidded for the faithful. I was reading the <a href="http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt" rel="nofollow">Unabomber manifesto</a> the other day and it occurred to me what is going on with these manginas. They are what he would call oversocialized. Oversocialization explains a lot of bizarre behavior in leftists and also how otherwise intelligent people can seem so dense. They have internalized society's most politically correct norms to an astonishing degree and then they ludicrously think they are rebelling against society for not living up to those same norms... But in truth they are the epitome of political correctness. AVfM is more feminist than the feminists themselves. They take the most extreme feminist dogmas at face value and then apply them even more literally and further removed from human nature while accusing the feminists of not being sex-hostile enough because not enough women are prosecuted as sex-offenders according to these hateful feminist norms. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic and destructive.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-83879086072113892312013-05-16T03:15:24.221+02:002013-05-16T03:15:24.221+02:00Eivind,
This is a great blog. Some months ago (be...Eivind,<br /><br />This is a great blog. Some months ago (before I found your site here) I posted a few times on AVfM challenging their view on female sex offenders, saying that if we adopt the same discredited victimology of boys-as-victims then we are being just as bad as the feminists themselves. <br /><br />People on AVfM wanted statistics to back up my claims that most of this "abuse" is consensual (I provided info on meta analyses of 70 studies), so I posted that, but quickly got labelled all kinds of bad things, and had all my postings deleted by the moderator.Watchfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-48821737716782476872013-04-02T14:24:07.698+02:002013-04-02T14:24:07.698+02:00Human Stupidity,
You know, something very similar...Human Stupidity,<br /><br />You know, something very similar happened to me when I was 7 years old. I was in the summer camp and one night kids all woke up and started having a party. It took adults a few hours to notice. During that time, two boys repeatedly tried to rip my underwear off using force. They were the same age though, and only two. I just wished they'd stop coming back and let me sleep. It was annoying and angering at the time, but didn't leave any lasting marks. I'm not sure how the boy in the video felt, I hope he's ok. But I think the toilet thing is more disgusting to a kid. Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01840848846249018854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-63231768425913396882013-04-02T14:23:21.079+02:002013-04-02T14:23:21.079+02:00Yes, that is rather mean bullying but I think it w...Yes, that is rather mean bullying but I think it would be slightly less traumatizing because he did get attention from girls, after all. I would certainly take that over having my head dunked into a toilet, but neither is acceptable behavior. I think this incident was handled reasonably for a change. Misdemeanor battery charge possible but they didn't bother pursuing it, and no hysteria about "sexual assault," which is ridiculous but predictably what the manginas at Reddit call for along with child porn charges.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-42829254209780074452013-04-01T22:18:58.446+02:002013-04-01T22:18:58.446+02:00What is your take on this?
http://www.youtube.co...What is your take on this? <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dGgTTR25Imc<br /><br /><br />http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1bdik0/8th_graders_assault_and_strip_5th_grader_post/<br /><br />You probably say it is less traumatizing to be disrobed by a couple of girls then to have your head dunked into a toilet. <br />Human-Stupidity.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01415167814446085472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-60202798110335070672013-02-23T09:05:59.069+01:002013-02-23T09:05:59.069+01:00Statsadvokat Lars Fause er en drittsekk som ikke a...Statsadvokat Lars Fause er en drittsekk som ikke aksepterer at folket skal ha noe vi skulle ha sagt. Vi skal fullstendig være prisgitt maktmenneskene i staten.<br /><br />Den unnskyldningen om at frikjennelsen ikke kan aksepteres fordi det "ikke gis noen begrunnelse" er bare tull. Det er ikke det det handler om, og det er slett ikke ønskelig at juryen kommer med en begrunnelse. Det er ikke deres jobb og ikke noe de skal forventes å være kvalifisert til -- juryen skal være uttrykk for rettsfølelsen i folket; hele poenget er nettopp at avgjørelsen IKKE baseres på juridiske spissfindigheter som du må være utdannet jurist for å greie ut om.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-49264328064413216012013-02-23T07:13:24.770+01:002013-02-23T07:13:24.770+01:00http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnma...http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.10923917Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-88530099656342592982013-02-22T17:20:09.595+01:002013-02-22T17:20:09.595+01:00Ja, juryordningen er jo bare en illusjon når fagdo...Ja, juryordningen er jo bare en illusjon når fagdommerne ikke respekterer frifinnelser. Arrogante drittsekker.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-41109795290373689262013-02-22T17:09:55.301+01:002013-02-22T17:09:55.301+01:00Norsk strafferett i praksis:
http://www.vg.no/nyh...Norsk strafferett i praksis:<br /><br />http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10107605Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-36506189887910938522013-02-22T08:47:30.671+01:002013-02-22T08:47:30.671+01:00@Eivind (5:27)
You nailed it bro. Trying to make...@Eivind (5:27)<br /><br />You nailed it bro. Trying to make an equal number of men and women in jail for "sex offenses" is silly.<br /><br />Yet, it seems that there are some out there who want just that.<br /><br />It also occurred to me, that there are people who want to perpetuate a mistrust between men and women as well...Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06935418620317902441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-26668973820833919152013-02-22T07:05:45.748+01:002013-02-22T07:05:45.748+01:00Once again, using objects is not sex. The scenario...Once again, using objects is not sex. The scenario you describe is certainly abusive, but not because it is sex, and it sure isn't "typical" either. Frankly I can't remember a single case out of the hundreds I have heard of where the female sex offender used objects or threatened the child's life or family (indeed they appear very naive, thinking society cannot possibly be so hateful about it as is now the reality thanks to feminism). The vast majority of female sex offenders have loving relationships with their "victims," and it is the demonization of sex itself I object to. Sex <i>per se</i> is not damaging unless it is coerced or you go out of your way (or society does) to brainwash the child into thinking he or she has been "abused." See "<a href="http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/the-missing-mechanism-of-harm/" rel="nofollow">The Missing Mechanism of Harm</a>" by Dave Riegel:<br /><br /><i>Abstract<br /><br />For decades there have been claims that all sexual interactions between children and older persons “. . . cause harm, [that] this harm is pervasive, . . . [is] likely to be intense, . . . [and] is an equivalent experience for boys and girls . . .” (Rind, Bauserman, and Tromovitch 1998, p. 22). [1] There is, however, no mechanism (anon, 2013) offered as to how these sexual interactions actually cause harm, and, as noted by Bailey, “a surprising . . . lack of scientific evidence” (2011, p. 3) for these claims. Clancy (2009) took the position that at least initial trauma is a “myth,” and as far back as 1981, Constantine described the effects of interference based on this assumed/assigned harmfulness as “psychonoxious” (p. 241). This paper reviews a sampling of the literature in this area, takes issue with these unsupported claims, and argues that, instead, much real damage is done by assuming the existence of intrinsic harm when the only harm that occurs apparently is extrinsic.</i>Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-6648559655612159922013-02-22T00:09:33.922+01:002013-02-22T00:09:33.922+01:00Are you seriously trying to tell me that you belie...Are you seriously trying to tell me that you believe that an adult woman forcing a young child, aged 4, who has no idea and no real comprehension of sex, to perform sexual acts with her is not damaging? This child doesn't understand what is happening but is frightened and scared by it, especially when the woman scares the child into secrecy by threatening their life and family? How is this not abusive?! Especially since female sex offenders typically use objects to sexually abuse the child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-55863412406325108882013-02-21T20:19:21.674+01:002013-02-21T20:19:21.674+01:00Ja, de blir aldri fornøyd. Her tas altså overgrep ...Ja, de blir aldri fornøyd. Her tas altså overgrep mot kvinner så alvorlig at bytte av en tampong dømmes som "voldtekt," og straffenivået har blitt tidoblet på ti år, men propagandaen er nøyaktig den samme. Det er den i USA også hvor straffene gjerne er 10 ganger det igjen. Feminister blir ALDRI fornøyde, og manginaer vil alltid støtte dem. Vi trenger sårt en mannsbevegelse som kan stå opp og si at nok er nok.<br /><br />Begge deler er viktig. Både voldtektshysteriet rundt voksne kvinner og løgnen om at mindreårige utsettes for "overgrep" og snart (når loven nå blir endret) "voldtekt" hver gang de har sex. Vi må sette foten ned mot denne delen av hysteriet også. Vil du for eksempel ha slike tilstander her?:<br /><br />http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/world/16194243/mother-hired-strippers-for-sons-birthday/<br /><br />Min neste bloggpost handler imidlertid om de foreslåtte lovendringene og kommer i morgen.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-34360117925170652542013-02-21T19:55:32.030+01:002013-02-21T19:55:32.030+01:00http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/norsk-politikk/...http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/norsk-politikk/artikkel.php?artid=10100964<br /><br />Et eksempel på hvor i utakt politikerne er med meningene på denne siden.<br /><br />De mener for fullt alvor at seksuelle overgrep ikke taes på alvor. André Okthay Dahl er faktisk av den oppfatning at: "Jeg synes det er en skam at norske myndigheter har kommet så kort på dette området, og man kan stille spørsmål ved om det ville gått så sakte dersom det i hovedsak var menn som ble utsatt for voldtekt." <br /><br />Her ser du litt hva holdninger du kjemper mot Berge. Som jeg tidligere har nevnt for deg er det fullstendig feil fokus å gjøre seksuelle relasjoner mellom barn og voksne til mennsaktivistenes kjernesak. <br /><br />Hvordan kan det politisk stående være av den oppfatning at seksuelle overgrep ikke blir tatt på alvor fordi det er kvinner som i hovedsak er offer? Det er jo å snu virkeligheten på hodet. For det første er det intet som taes mer alvorlig, det har jo man bevist på denne siden gang på gang. For det andre har man jo langt mer sympati for kvinner i samfunnet enn menn?! Jeg fatter ikke virkelighetsorienteringen til norske politikere. Og dette kommer fra høyre, ikke fra ekstremvenstre. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-149022314711805982013-02-21T17:27:00.705+01:002013-02-21T17:27:00.705+01:00That is hare-brained and stupid on so many levels....That is hare-brained and stupid on so many levels.<br /><br />It is dishonest to support disingenuous definitions and the female victims of this charade don't deserve it even if men are hurt by the same laws. And it doesn't work either because men almost never care to accuse rape. There are thousands of men accused for every woman accused of rape in Norway, so how do you expect this to impact women anywhere near equally? Even if ALL sex was defined as rape today for men and women alike, men still wouldn't take an interest in accusing rape, so the law would still almost exclusively hurt men. Pushing for equal injustice does not and will never work because men and women are different -- sex laws inevitably have disparate impact on the sexes because their sexual motivations and behavior are different, and MRAs of all people ought to be able to acknowledge this...<br /><br />Now politicians are at work expanding rape law even more. Should we support this reform too as long as it is applied equally to women? I don't have words for how stupid this approach is!Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-5308472303891395382013-02-21T16:32:00.470+01:002013-02-21T16:32:00.470+01:00Eivind, I think most MRAs only support applying th...Eivind, I think most MRAs only support applying the laws equally to women in regards to equal punishment as a way to sort of show how ridiculous they are. It seems that many problems are completely ignored until they start affecting women. That the people who've lobbied to put these laws into place never imagine that the laws will ever apply to them and theirs.<br /><br />Rape hysteria is of course out there and there's no denying that the definition has been stretched paper-thin in most western "democratic" nations, but it seems that the only effective way to fight this is to push to have the same punitive measures applied to all citizens so that they are eventually removed.<br /><br />This seems to apply to a lot of areas in our legal system as well. Not just sexual offenses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-87895012333633539122013-02-21T14:10:19.753+01:002013-02-21T14:10:19.753+01:00Ja, eskaleringen av mannshatet har vært enorm. 4 å...Ja, eskaleringen av mannshatet har vært enorm. 4 år normalstraff for en "voldtekt" hvis eneste kriterium er at kvinnen hevder hun sov eller var for beruset til å gjøre motstand. Over 1000% strengere straff nå for noe som ikke engang var definert som voldtekt før 2000. Før det hadde man <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106400625448277510633/EivindBergeSBlog?authkey=Gv1sRgCKP11Pyvw5jTCw&feat=directlink#5847390582991532050" rel="nofollow">en egen §193</a> om sex med bevisstløse med en strafferamme på maks 5 år. Så ble slike "sovevoldtekter/festvoldtekter" som slett ikke er noen voldtekter tatt med i voldtektsparagrafen (§192) samtidig som de andre kriteriene om vold eller trusler også ble utvannet til det absurde. Og nå er vi altså i gang med en ny runde med utvidelse av definisjonen hvor voldsaspektet skal fjernes helt, slik at kvinnen i praksis skal anses som om hun var bevisstløs til alle tider og ikke trenger gjøre noen form for motstand selv om hun er fullt ut i stand til det. Etter det kommer nok en ny runde med eskalerende straffenivå, skal jeg vedde på, samtidig som juryen sikkert fjernes også.<br /><br />Dette viser også hvor stor makt ord har. Jeg tror neppe de hadde klart å heve straffenivået fra 4 måneder til 4 år uten å omdefinere fenomenet med seksuell utnyttelse av bevisstløse til "voldtekt." Dette er et bevisst uærlig språklig grep for å demonisere menn mer og få til strengere straffer.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-37247644914583899052013-02-21T13:21:27.259+01:002013-02-21T13:21:27.259+01:00http://www.bt.no/nyheter/innenriks/Mer-enn-tidoble...http://www.bt.no/nyheter/innenriks/Mer-enn-tidoblet-straff-Afor-voldtekt-av-sovende-2849185.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-63198499161001133892013-02-20T21:28:32.400+01:002013-02-20T21:28:32.400+01:00Sjekk debatten her, og gå gjerne inn og kommentér ...Sjekk debatten her, og gå gjerne inn og kommentér mot feministene, moralistene og sosialistene: http://universitas.no/nyhet/58011/studentene-som-selger-sexStreet Lifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-50401217427030241392013-02-19T20:52:38.325+01:002013-02-19T20:52:38.325+01:00http://www.nrk.no/ytring/kvinnen-er-den-nye-mannen...http://www.nrk.no/ytring/kvinnen-er-den-nye-mannen-1.10917706<br /><br />"SV-mann og femiklatt<br />All denne norske feminismen og likestillingen forløper ikke uten motstand.<br /><br />Kvinnen blir mer mandig, mener noen. Hun forlater sin omsorgsfulle rolle som «mater familias». Hun er ikke lenger den følsomme og beskyttende. Hun er tøff i trynet, slik menn har vært. Hun går til angrep. Hun bruker albuer og hever stemmen. Hun tar makt.<br /><br />Kristian Meisingset, medredaktør i Minerva<br /> Mannen feminiseres, mener andre. Han blir følsom. Han koser med barna sine. Han vil ha fri for å være hjemme med familien sin. Han ruller avgårde med barnevognen (på Grünerløkka, i hvert fall) og foretrekker kaffe med økologisk lettmelk.<br /><br />Han er SV-mannen! Vi himler med øynene og smiler og ler. For en femiklatt."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-33346731126089914212013-02-19T18:04:57.903+01:002013-02-19T18:04:57.903+01:00Det patetiske er at PST faktisk bruker "infil...Det patetiske er at PST faktisk bruker "infiltratør" på troskyldige grupper som Blitz og NDL. Det disse gruppene bedriver er jo kun protester og demostrasjoner. Guttestreker, intet annet. Og der sitter tøvete PST folk, uten et eneste kompetent gen i kroppen og følger med, som om de innbiller seg å være siste skandse før et forestående armageddon.<br />Latterlig samfunn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-71668249185453736382013-02-19T17:46:26.207+01:002013-02-19T17:46:26.207+01:00http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/her-arresteres-psts-a...http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/her-arresteres-psts-agent-1.10916137<br /><br />"Han har jobbet ti år som infiltratør for PST – praktisk talt uten betaling."<br /><br />Da må du faen meg være dum. Hvem gidder å jobbe gratis for noen? Aller minst PST. Man kan begynne å lure på hvor mange infiltatrører det finnes i venstreekstreme miljøer. De er jo plutselig blitt veldig lojale mot purken kan man få inntrykk av. Før var purken og venstrekstreme som katt og mus, nå virker de som deres fremste allierte.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com