tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post4791532604594857438..comments2024-03-28T10:43:26.059+01:00Comments on Eivind Berge's Blog: Feminists believe women can rape menEivind Bergehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-53185233149888464122017-10-26T21:01:37.861+02:002017-10-26T21:01:37.861+02:00You should watch this - https://www.youtube.com/wa...You should watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNZPM8_Arc - you mongol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-30074396379984443372017-08-26T17:03:45.278+02:002017-08-26T17:03:45.278+02:00Female sexual coercion is not rape because it does...Female sexual coercion is not rape because it does not carry that significance to any reasonable person. What a soap opera might dream up after they have spent several thousand episodes exhausting all remotely normal topics doesn't change that.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-32755900264193437732017-08-26T15:29:43.142+02:002017-08-26T15:29:43.142+02:00https://youtu.be/2ZMZaNZs6aE?t=68
https://youtu.be/2ZMZaNZs6aE?t=68 <br /><br /><br />Atle B (B for brainwashed)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-15052837668781582642017-06-21T16:35:04.702+02:002017-06-21T16:35:04.702+02:00Do you think the trauma of rape, and how seriously...Do you think the trauma of rape, and how seriously the crime is taken, is adequately explained by the disgust of having sex with a repulsive person? Men can obviously find some women repulsive and not want sex with them, but you need a lot more than that to justify the usual punishment, and in particular the minimum sentencing guidelines for rape. Women (and society) take rape so seriously because they are evolutionarily adapted to protect their sexual assets/selectivity, whose violation is a hell of a lot more damaging than a woman doing the "same" to a man. Which is not the same at all in any meaningful sense, obviously, since he does not risk getting pregnant and therefore is not equipped by evolution to be so careful about which women he has sex with. If you don't see that this matters, then you are so far out of touch with reality than I don't know what to tell you. You are just too dense and indoctrinated in political correctness.<br /><br />If philosophizing doesn't do it for you, then maybe fairness will? Don't you believe that the punishment should fit the crime? Are you so incredibly misogynistic that you want to punish women for something that most men find too trivial for punishment at all as if it were a heinous crime, just in the name of "equality"? If you want to punish female sexual coercion, then the only fair way to do it is to ignore the sexual aspect and treat it as a nonsexual assault. Those can also involve plenty of disgust, and the applicable laws address that adequately. If, for example, someone kidnaps you and forces you to lick their toilet, it would qualify as a number of crimes but it would not be rape. Female sexual coercion is likewise not rape; that is a category error.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-86308585919045794172017-06-21T13:39:35.582+02:002017-06-21T13:39:35.582+02:00Women want sex, or at least many of them do. Mayb...Women want sex, or at least many of them do. Maybe they don't want to have sex with you, which may be why you think like you do. :) <br /><br />It is a rare thing though. It may be true that normal women do not rape men. <br /><br />For all your philosophizing, of course a woman could rape a man. If there were some ugly-looking obese woman who wanted sex, who went to a party and de-pantsed man who would be too repulsed by her normally to want sex with her, why wouldn't that be rape? The only reason it wouldn't be is if a legal definition of 'rape' required that it be a man that penetrated a woman. For a regular use of the term, yes it would be forced sex.<br /><br />There are also accounts of small groups of South African black women with AIDS kidnapping the random young male stranger, lubing up his member and stroking him hard, then taking turns having sex with him. Physically repulsive women can want sex as much as the attractive ones. How could that not be rape?<br /><br />Not all men would choose to have sex with attractive women either. Men with sexual morals who do not want to have sex before marriage or who do not want to cheat on their wives could theoretically be raped by women.<br /><br />On the biological side, I have read comments from women who say men can't be raped because they wouldn't get an erection if they don't want it. Women aren't men and may not quite understand the biology, that erections aren't completely voluntary, and even moreso in younger men. I don't understand men making similar comments. I wonder if these men are border-line impotent, and unable to achieve an erection without a lot of effort. Maybe they don't realize that other men have better-working 'equipment.'<br /><br />As far as rape in marriage goes, if a couple are married, I think the state should not consider it 'rape' no matter what. If the state is going to have suing for divorce, why not just leave that stuff for divorce court? It should be recognized that the husband and wife have some 'rights' each to the other's bodies. I read in Canada, having sex with a sleeping partner, even after marriage, was considered rape. I can understand why a man shouldn't do that to an unprepared female partner, since they can be sore without foreplay. But it doesn't hurt a man to do that if she doesn't put pressure on his bladder. If a wife pounces on her husband's erection like that, the state should stay out of it. For a woman married to a semi-impotent man, maybe one of those men who thinks a woman can't physically rape a man, this may be one of her few chances. And why wouldn't a husband say 'thank you'? Most probably would, anyway. I told my wife she can Canadian rape me. She can have free access while I am awake, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-17798432172758236442014-06-19T05:06:43.058+02:002014-06-19T05:06:43.058+02:00No, a man does not lose anything by having his DNA...No, a man does not lose anything by having his DNA used to beget children. In fact, he has a great deal to gain, since procreation is the natural, biological meaning of life. It is of course possible to assign value to anything you like even if it is complete garbage, including not having children, but that does not mean you are entitled to having your idiosyncratic sensibilities taken seriously and enforced by society. No reasonable man would consider involuntary fatherhood the equivalent of rape, as long as he is not forced to support the child (which would be a separate issue amounting to robbery rather than rape). Why should I respect your desire to inflict draconian punishment for a trivial insult which most men would consider a luxury? Indeed, men evolved to be sexual opportunists, not to be traumatized by low-cost reproductive opportunities. Going against this instinct requires a great deal of <a href="http://eivindberge.blogspot.no/2014/01/oversocialization-explains-female-sex.html" rel="nofollow">oversocialization</a>, and why would you want that? Pretending female sexual coercion is rape is possibly the most absurd and bizarre charade in history.<br /><br />Women "raping" men is a bullshit problem contrived by feminists in order to promote the feminist agenda, and that is all it is.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-918228274145776282014-06-19T04:14:17.566+02:002014-06-19T04:14:17.566+02:00It simply isn't a meaningful category because ...<b>It simply isn't a meaningful category because men don't have anything sexual that can be meaningfully robbed by women.</b><br /><br />I'm probably more inclined than others here to agree with you on female-on-male rape and you make an interesting assertion concerning feminism's interest in it.<br /><br />But the above quote, I don't accept. DNA is not a valueless sexual product. It may have been cheapened by men who are proud to sow their oats with abandon or the use of sperm banks (much like slutty female behavior cheapens female sexual value), but as long as there is a man who places some value on his reproductive abilities and an interest in his potential offspring (and who their mother should be), then I believe "coercing" a man either via drugs or outright violence, could be considered rape.<br /><br />I probably won't come back here to follow up, so feel free to consider or respond for other commentor's benefit.<br /><br />- CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-64081212448858007202013-10-07T15:03:24.256+02:002013-10-07T15:03:24.256+02:00My refusal to acknowledge female-on-make rape goes...My refusal to acknowledge female-on-make rape goes way beyond jealousy. It simply isn't a meaningful category because men don't have anything sexual that can be meaningfully robbed by women. There is also no evidence that men are particularly traumatized by the <b><i>sexual</i></b> aspect of female sexual coercion, and a great deal of evidence to the contrary. And all the other damage such as bodily harm and disease infection are adequately addressed by other nonsexual laws (and the paternity aspect ought to be addressed by reforming child support laws rather than pretending women can rape men). I have no objection to a man pressing charges for simple assault or whatever else fits if he was sexually assaulted by a woman. But the sexual aspect is irrelevant and does not aggravate the crime.<br /><br />The threat of being accused of rape yourself is also exacerbated by the very rape law reforms you support. Back when rape was reasonably defined, women had to show real evidence of violence. It was not enough to simply claim she didn't consent to sex, which feminism has enabled. Only by expanding the definition of rape to include all sorts of trivially light coercion with no resistance can male "victims" be recognized, so by foolishly supporting this agenda, you make it that much easier for women to accuse you of rape. You are duped into being a useful idiot for the feminists.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-12282175589597297842013-10-07T14:24:42.510+02:002013-10-07T14:24:42.510+02:00Got it. You're jealous because some of us were...Got it. You're jealous because some of us were raped. Why us, and not you? That kind of rejection hurts...it's painfully obvious that you're obsessed with it.<br /><br />And it's that attempt to cover up your vulnerability that's the reason we're all here. <br /><br />Because everything you wrote is fantasy. In your imagination, your trained Pavlovian response to visual sexual imagery is all that matters, conditioned as you are by popular media to make that the depth of your entire sexual identity. <br /><br />After all, it's easier to arouse someone than to seriously engage their mind. Especially during a short commercial break. <br /><br />But hey, you can't be expected to understand, because sexual imagery is all female on male rape is to you. Fear of the unknown, violation of bodily autonomy, the threat of disease, pregnancy, and being accused of rape yourself...<br /><br />And especially if you're powerless to prevent any of it...<br /><br />All of that, you can only completely dismiss, because you're completely sheltered from experience in the real world. <br /><br />In the real world, our brain structures are each individually designed to create our emotions and our reactions before we're consciously aware of them. <br /><br />In the real world, male sexual assault victims show the same range of response as female sexual assault victims. Some don't give a shit. Others do. A lot of people who should know better give them Hell for either reaction.<br /><br />But, the rates of PTSD is what you'd expect to see among soldiers in combat. <br /><br />Feminists who changed their minds about whether or not men could be raped were simply responding to the overwhelming evidence at hand. <br /><br />Until you're able to do the same, don't expect anyone to take your blog seriously. <br /><br />We come here for the same reasons we try to dunk clowns at the carnival. The only difference is that you can't tell when you're drowning.Samaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307463279171220762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-73239585469660629492013-01-19T00:38:04.521+01:002013-01-19T00:38:04.521+01:00p.s. I would further like to point out your use of...p.s. I would further like to point out your use of the word "fact".<br />If this is a fact to you than I would bet you really believe in almost anything and everything you like at will. This would mean you can't discern between reality and fanticy. A fact is usually not disputable because it is proven. Example of a fact "sound travels at 1,100 feet per second at sea level".<br />example of a theory "gravity controls the universe"<br />example of an opinion (bias) "men have been raped by women and goats"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-23352230874452421712013-01-19T00:25:10.677+01:002013-01-19T00:25:10.677+01:00I can't see this as rape in any frame of mind ...I can't see this as rape in any frame of mind other than if the victim was honestly gay and was completely gay minded. He had a girlfriend so that's not the case. Worst case scenario this guy was annoyed or somewhat disturbed by the fact he did not participate with "consent". There is no real damage here other than this guy is (and I mean this in a serious way) a sissy. If i was to make a presumption I would presume that this poor fellow has been bullied by practically every person he has encountered, and thus has several mental issues that make him a victim in most situations. No sir you were not raped, you were sexually offended (worst case scenario). You probably think you need to go to a rehabilitation center for rape victims and receive mental counseling because your ability to socialize and have a normal life has been destroyed by your girlfriend playing with you. You probably spend most of your time alone crying because every time you close your eyes it all happens again, and now your worried to death that it could happen again with some other 110 pound brute who will just use your body without you being able to do anything about it. If this is the case, than I agree you were raped. Bad thing is no one will help you, because you are too feeble minded to help, you have little or no mental attributes that are masculine nor do you seem to have any real self confidence. Do yourself a favor grow a backbone or find a fruity gay guy and join their ranks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-67852800599329481722013-01-17T00:59:15.602+01:002013-01-17T00:59:15.602+01:00I agree with the fact women can rape men. Even men...I agree with the fact women can rape men. Even men saying here that rape includes a penis. My ex-girlfriend (girlfriend) at the time took advantage of my sleep deprivation that had accumulated over a week. I was only getting an hour or two of sleep a night and when the weekend came along I was exhausted and tired. The next thing I kniw I woke up with my dick inside of her after I ejaculated. Some people would make fun of this or insult me or say crap like "oh you liked it and wanted it or whatever". Thing is I rarely talk about it. I mean who am I going tell. Like the police or courts will believe me. Why? Because feminist forced it into everyone's head that all men a re pretty much rapists deep down. Every time I see a feminist bring up rape they always make evry man an enemy. News flash for those feminist who think this way, there are normal people and then there are criminals. Criminals can be rapists and criminals can also be from either gender. The saying that feminist want equality for everyone is BS. Yes I dislike feminism as a whole, but I also dislike a lot of other groups that claim to try and bring equality when they don't. Yes I agree with some of the non-rediculous arguments feminists put out there because yes they somewhat bring equality. Though feminist seem to make things only female prolems that are problems for more then just women from my experiences and they seem to hate everyone who disagrees with one point of theirs. Es women can rape men and I know this from experience. MRA's should have women raping men as an arguement. No man who has been raped by a woman could do anything about it but a woman who had consensual sex could yell rape and have a man put in prison even if he did nothing wrong. I'm glad you got justice man. Hopefully society and feminist will open their eyes to the fact that men can be raped by women. The legal definition of rape in canada is forcing somebody into sex without their consent. Rape can consist of statutory rape, if someone is drunk or drugged and can't consent, if someone is unconscious and if someone is just straight out violently raped. Yes it may sound rediculous as a whole that women can rape men but that's only because society sees men as hypersexual creatures who are up and willing for it anytime and since men are on average stronger then women there is no way she can force him into sex. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-67847467204987712062012-12-13T03:56:22.319+01:002012-12-13T03:56:22.319+01:00After reading the whole thing, I agree that only i...After reading the whole thing, I agree that only in an extreme circumstance (requiring drugs and physical force of epic proportion) could any woman or women ever rape a man, even if a group of 10,000 set out on a life endeavor to prove it could be done they would fail. I think that the only reason that society convicts such things to elevated repercussion is this: (the woman is completely overpowered and used without her ever being able to retaliate in any equal amount of damage). meaning she is far less capable or formidable to an average mas physical capabilities an thus is defeated and plundered, this leaves the woman emotionally and sometime physically ruined. Usually because now she is terrified of what almost every man is capable of. Most American women do not realize that every man they see has the ability to completely destroy them in a mater of a minute and walk away without any considerable damage and only the consequences of society and religion prevent them from doing such things. A look at bestgore.com would quickly confirm this, but i would warn you this site has no respect to any viewer. Equality only exists where there is civil practice and dignity amongst fellow human beings, outside that realm there is not even the faintest hint of equality, because it is only a mindset, enforced by MEN with civilized intentions and a productive/peaceful environment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-6700772277255990932012-08-10T08:16:24.999+02:002012-08-10T08:16:24.999+02:00Jeg er mot både voldtekt, kjønnskvotering og andre...Jeg er mot både voldtekt, kjønnskvotering og andre voldelige likestillingstiltak. Men hvis vi først skal ha tvungen likestilling som gagner kvinner, så mener jeg at en eller annen form for seksuell kjønnskvotering for menn er rettferdig.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-91264709969509061292012-08-10T04:22:19.391+02:002012-08-10T04:22:19.391+02:00"Haldninga til Berge om at valdtekt er eit re..."Haldninga til Berge om at valdtekt er eit rettferdig svar på kjønnskvotering og andre likestillingstiltak, kom ikkje like godt fram". Dette er eit klipp frå Dagbladet,stemmer denne påstanden?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-36743025379828552922011-10-23T14:27:42.914+02:002011-10-23T14:27:42.914+02:00The category of rape hinges on the ontological/phe...The category of rape hinges on the ontological/phenomenological assumption that the penis (or male sexuality in general) is capable of inflicting some very serious violation that goes profoundly beyond the physical violence in an assault per se (indeed there can be no physical damage whatsoever and rape is still considered a heinous crime). For all of history until feminism, it never occurred to anyone that female sexual coercion belongs in this category. Now political correctness holds that the sexes are equal, and that therefore women can rape men. But it is a lie. The vagina has no power to violate a man sexually, because the ontological status of female sexuality fundamentally precludes such a thing. Women raping men can only be as bad as the physical violence itself. Or, IF women raping men is the same experience as men raping women, then that would mean rape is the most exaggerated and disproportionately punished crime in history. If feminists want to insist that the sexes are equal, so that we men can ourselves imagine what rape is like based on how we feel about female sexual coercion, then the jig is up on rape and it is exposed as the most grossly exaggerated and disproportionately punished crime in history. I don't actually believe real rape is as trivial as female sexual coercion, so I refuse to go along with the charade that women can rape men. <br /><br />Also, I don’t know what you mean by “forced seduction,” but obviously any kind of seduction isn’t rape no matter who does it.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-68490560283525086322011-10-23T12:23:47.034+02:002011-10-23T12:23:47.034+02:00There are two kinds of men.
1.Who would be ok with...There are two kinds of men.<br />1.Who would be ok with having sex with any women.<br />2. Who would decide certain things like staying virgin till marriage, or they will marry certain type of women etc.<br /> So if 2nd type men get force-able seduced by an unwanted women . OR imagine one has a beautiful innocent wife and an elderly cruel women forces one such men for sexual favors because she feels safe of having sex from this men then gigolos or other men . Would any such married men would think of cheating their innocent wife with whom they love trust etc, no <br />, I think forced seduction is rape.<br />Because balls gets charged up then we can loose our mind.<br /> Regarding me I feel uncomfortable with some women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-51075003700723962032011-09-16T22:35:23.190+02:002011-09-16T22:35:23.190+02:00how many time i do not do what i want to do but do...how many time i do not do what i want to do but do what i dont want to doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-63002374220893810772011-09-12T08:17:00.305+02:002011-09-12T08:17:00.305+02:00Hey thereHey thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-23098261439880528222010-06-27T03:56:54.786+02:002010-06-27T03:56:54.786+02:00I figured out where you got your definitions from....I figured out where you got your definitions from. They appear in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Dictionary_of_English" rel="nofollow">Oxford Dictionary of English</a>. According to Wikipedia,<br /><br /><b>"The Oxford Dictionary of English (formerly The New Oxford Dictionary of English, often abbreviated to NODE) is a single-volume English language dictionary first published in 1998 by Oxford University Press. This dictionary is not based on the Oxford English Dictionary and should not be mistaken for a new or updated version of the OED."</b><br /><br />Evidently you made this very mistake -- which makes sense, really. I guess knowing which dictionary you use is too much to ask from someone so obtuse they believe women can rape men.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-61848784527196180032010-06-26T17:53:24.279+02:002010-06-26T17:53:24.279+02:00Which edition of the "OED" are you quoti...Which edition of the "OED" are you quoting, anyway? I just reached for my own copy of OED (the compact second edition, which includes the full 20-volume text in one and comes with a magnifying glass), and it defines rape (sense 3.a.) as "Violation or ravishing of a woman. Also, in mod. usage, sexual assault upon a man." So the OED does in fact make it clear that the "rape" of a man is just a modern usage, and all the sentences illustrating this refer to homosexual rape, starting in 1976. Not that I necessarily defer to the lexicographers of the OED (they might employ feminists there as anywhere else nowadays), but you don't even have a point since it's not the OED you are quoting.<br /><br />I agree that forced buggery can be called rape. That is a reasonable extended usage of the word. But women "raping" men is not, and the venerable OED does still not overtly acknowledge this possibility either. And if they ever do, say in the third edition or later, it can safely be dismissed as feminist lexicographical corruption.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-17686795718745152862010-06-26T16:19:54.114+02:002010-06-26T16:19:54.114+02:00Because the OED is a descriptive dictionary. Yes, ...<i>Because the OED is a descriptive dictionary. Yes, some people, mostly feminists and their useful idiot males, use "rape" to refer to acts performed by women.</i><br /><br />But if the OED disagreed with this usage, it would have included a footnote to this effect, as it does with many, many other words. So why didn't it in these two cases?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-38446971859090438782010-06-26T15:14:34.169+02:002010-06-26T15:14:34.169+02:00Surely if your absolutist definition has any valid...<i>Surely if your absolutist definition has any validity, the words 'especially' and 'typically' are completely redundant? So why did the OED include them?</i><br /><br />Because the OED is a descriptive dictionary. Yes, some people, mostly feminists and their useful idiot males, use "rape" to refer to acts performed by women. I disagree with their definition. My blog is normative. Here I express my own opinion, which categorically excludes women from being sexual offenders because female sexuality is something positive. Since the proximate purpose of life for males is gaining access to women's bodies, of course women can't be rapists.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-78120106556709635292010-06-26T15:02:38.676+02:002010-06-26T15:02:38.676+02:00Oxford English Dictionary definition of 'rape&...Oxford English Dictionary definition of 'rape':<br /><br /><i>The crime, typically committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will.</i><br /><br />And here's the OED definition of 'sexual intercourse':<br /><br /><i>Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.</i><br /><br />Surely if your absolutist definition has any validity, the words 'especially' and 'typically' are completely redundant? So why did the OED include them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26678806.post-38500212251754730862010-06-17T22:50:53.389+02:002010-06-17T22:50:53.389+02:00I was beaten and anally raped by two women. (...) ...<i>I was beaten and anally raped by two women. (...) I don't what the hell else you could call it.</i><br /><br />Call it torture and sure it is as bad or worse than rape, but it isn't rape.<br /><br /><i>say that a man would derive sexual pleasure from forcefully inserting objects into another man´s anus- wouldn´t that constitute rape?</i><br /><br />No, because it isn't sex and the sexual pleasure would be highly idiosyncratic. Rape can only be performed with a penis.<br /><br /><i>and say that it wasn´t a man who was holding the object, but a woman- wouldn´t that still be rape?</i><br /><br />These acts are only rape in a loose metaphorical sense. They should be treated as serious crimes but not be confused with rape.Eivind Bergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899250633318059069noreply@blogger.com