https://www.pedofili.eu/Nafp.htm
Highly recommended reading for Norwegians! Firstly, let's quote their definition of what is now called MAP activism. This is still totally relevant today:
Det er et behov for å kjempe for rettigheter, likeverd og respekt i samfunnet... Det er kampen mot lover som på prinsipielt grunnlag forbyr pedofil seksuell praksis. Det er kampen mot lovregulert diskriminering. Likeverd er et spørsmål om å kunne bli betraktet som et menneske på linje med andre, og ikke tilhørende en bestemt gruppe tildelt de samme negative egenskapene. Og det er respekt, retten til å være fri og åpen om hvem man er, uten at dette møtes med frykt, hat eller sanksjoner.
Pedofil aktivisme er politikk. Det er politikk både i tradisjonell forstand, ved at man forsøker å influere styringsprosessene i samfunnet, dets lover og regler, men også i holdningsskapende forstand, ved å arbeide for at samfunnet skal godta oss og vår seksualitet. Pedofil aktivisme er informasjon og saklig opplysning om seksualitet, samt utformingen av akseptable retningslinjer for seksuell adferd.
However, back then they were nearly all boylovers. Not because they wanted to exclude straight guys and women, but apparently there was even less interest in political activity among heterosexual men in the 1970s to promote sexual freedom than there is now. Even though the age of consent was 16 then as now and there was not the belief in the metaphysical badness of sex causing "trauma" from consensual acts or the stigma on pedophilia that there is now. The imagined danger back then was simply that homosexuality was contagious, which albeit wrong is charmingly innocent compared to today's demonology. And as late as 1960 the government was able to be rational even if they didn't act on it.
Innstillingen fra Strafferådet av 1960 er interessant lesning, fordi det høyst sannsynlig var siste gang det offentlige på en noenlunde realistisk måte kunne diskutere lovbestemmelsene på dette området. I dag er slike diskusjoner håpløst hemmet av barns påståtte inkompetanse og behovet for å beskytte dem. Sitatet som E refererer til finnes på side 32 i innstillingen. På samme side finner vi et annet eksempel på hvordan de unge ble oppfattet den gang (jfr. med dagens lovtekst):
Innstilling fra Strafferådet 17 mars 1960, side 32:
Straffelovrådet vil, som nevnt under den foregående paragraf, foreslå at den nåværende aldersgrense på 16 år blir opprettholdt. Da det imidlertid ofte kan være tilfellet at personer under denne lavalder er vel utviklet i fysisk henseende, er det neppe riktig i lovbestemmelsen om utuktig omgjengelse med slike personer å betegne dem som «b a r n». Man har i praksis hatt tilfelle hvor det ikke har vært naturlig å bruke betegnelsen på den som gjerningsmannen har hatt den utuktige omgjengelse med. Den fysiske utvikling har i disse tilfelle vært slik at inntrykket av fornærmede som barn var utelukket. Rådet vil derfor foreslå at ordet «barn» byttes ut med det nøytrale «noen» under 16 år.
Hva har skjedd med seksualiteten siden 1960?
Svaret er like innlysende som det er paradoksalt. Seksualiteten har blitt ung. Hele vår kultur har blitt ung. Ungdommen og det ungdommelige har tatt over. Det er det unge som gjelder. Å bli gammel har ingen status. Alderdom er tabu. Alle skal være unge. Vi lever i de unges verden.
Alt fra rynkefjerning til hårtransplantasjoner, alt fra miniskjørt til kontaktlinser, alt fra barbering av skrittet til viagra, alt fra helsekost til treningssentre er bare uttrykk for det samme. Alle du treffer i serviceyrkene, fra ungjenta bak disken til flyvertinnen, er der fordi ungdom selger. Det er det vi vil ha.
Barnet har blitt alle kvinners skjønnhetsideal. Ungdommelige prestasjoner og ungdommelig utseende har blitt alle menns mannsideal.
Det er de pedofiles forståelse av hva som er seksuelt attråverdig som gjelder. Det var vår seksualitet som vant.
Vi vant, men seieren kostet oss dyrt. Når du dyrker det ungdommelige, vil selve ungdommen bli idolisert. Når du vil ha huden til et barn, kan du lett avgude dem som virkelig er barn. De pedofile vil rive ned idolet, besudle det, ha sex med det, og det kan ikke samfunnet tolerere. Derfor kan barn brukes til å begrense enhver menneskerettighet, kaste bort ethvert rettsprinsipp og fjerne enhver anstendighet.
Man kan spørre seg om dette ikke er en selvmotsigelse. Hvis samfunnet elsker det barnlige og forguder barn, hvorfor bruker de barn som våpen mot pedofile? Svaret er mer opplagt enn vi tror. Når vi idoliserer noe, slutter vi å verdsette det. På samme måte som middelalderens religionskriger bunnet i en idolisert kristen kjærlighet, vil de idoliserte barna starte en konflikt som gjør at samfunnet river ned demokratiet og ødelegger seg selv.
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I open this post with a classic: women freaking out that a 61-year-old rich man prefers a 19-year-old chick and not a 50-year-old divorced middle-aged woman.
"""The girlfriend of Anthony Kiedis (61 years old) of The Red Hot Chili Peppers is 19 years old, reminder, because many forget, early adolescence is from 12 to 14, late adolescence is from 15 to 19 years"""
I love the subtlety of this feminist saying that since adolescence extends until 19, it implies that he is a pedophile, since they have achieved that teenagers are pedophilia, the only thing left to do is to extend adolescence as much as possible.
"""I will never understand why men are so obsessed with dating the youngest women they can.
They like to use the excuse that “they are fertile” to hide their true intentions. The reproductive age of a woman is 25 but a 30-year-old woman can have children perfectly well, and 19yo kids are sought because younger than this is illegal."""
This other defines herself on Twitter as an "aroace lesbian", I don't know what the hell she is, but this surely clears up many doubts.
"""It's just because they are emotionally immature, they want to continue thinking that they are young and feed their ego as if it were a trophy... when they say what they say they only look like ridiculous old men"""
And this is said by a supposed adult woman with her profile full of photos of K-pop boys.
Adolescence lasts until 19? We can do better than that... according to the BBC, "Adolescence now lasts from the ages of 10 to 24, although it used to be thought to end at 19, scientists say."
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-42732442
That is from 2018 and maybe the new scientific "discovery" didn't catch on. Anyway, good to see some mature men are not afraid to date adolescents.
The former NAPF member is partially correct. A lot of modern pedohysteria probably stems back to modern societies being youth-oriented. As he writes - there are no benefits to getting old anymore. It stands to reason then, that society should develop huge complexes regarding "sexualizing minors". If you say openly that youth is attractive, you are hitting people where it hurts. Considering how long the average educational process is now, people aren't seen as full adults until after they are already physically in decline. Naturally, they do not want to be reminded of this, and they lash out at any expressions linking youth to sexual attractiveness (which is really the quality that matters most to people, regardless of how sophisticated and "enlightened" they may feel they are).
Older societies could freely worship the beauty of youth because youth was not all that mattered. Age brought wisdom, status and respect. Now you are just seen as uncool, out of touch and "untouchable" so far as young people at large are concerned if you are more than a decade older than them, and age-gap relationships are the biggest sexual taboo of our times. Part of this is social conditioning, there is no doubt about that. However, I believe the main impetus behind this disgust is that they don't want to relate themselves to anyone older, simply because they don't want to be reminded that they too are getting older. And why would they want to? There are no benefits to it anymore, only detriments. By championing an age-segregated society, they can essentially push this reality out of sight. Of course, in the long run this is absolutely horrible for their mental health. It would be a lot more beneficial if they were able to relate to and befriend older people, so they didn't have to feel so mortified at the thought of growing older themselves.
"The thing we value most of all is youth, which means that life automatically becomes depressing, because life consists, on the whole, of getting old." - Michel Houellebecq
Feminists think they can solve this somehow by pushing 60 year-old Miss Universe contestants and praising wrinkles as beautiful in advertisements. Well, good luck...
Yes, points well taken. Not the whole explanation, but part of the picture for sure. It only sucks to get older now. All your skills are outdated and even if young people like you you are just dismissed as a groomer. And of course, the desperate ways older people seek to be young again only confirm that youth is attractive. So in that sense, minor-attraction has won. We just didn't win in any meaningful way. I am not so sure it has to be that way, but this whole cultural youth-worship came with very peculiar taboos on interacting with youths or even admitting that youth is the ideal of sexual attractiveness. Women will never be any more attractive than in their mid teens and all their life they strive to get that look back, yet we are supposed to pretend middle-aged or even 60-year-old women are all the rage.
Is there no forum or site to talk about these topics? I can only write here and it's frustrating
Aroace means aromantic and asexual. That's someone who doesn't develop sexual attraction to others. The new world order is eventually planning to make everyone asexual, that's the end goal of the gender nonbinary and transgender identity systems becoming more intricate.
The new world order wants all reproduction to be by artificial insemination and eventually their holy Grail is the artificial uterus. Their plan is to forbid all sexual contact between humans altogether, saying it's obsolete, uncivilized and can never be made safe and equitable for all.
This person probably has all the pictures of Kpop boys because aroace often find aesthetic beauty in people deemed physically attractive.
Our mission is to cause the new world order to fail in their plan.
The idea that people are afraid of the idea that they'll get older, as a root cause of pedohysteria would explain why fellow old people are also very anti older man with young girl sex interaction. A protective paternal instinct could manifest as a desire to protect the young girl from being exposed to the older man as a means of protecting her from developing awareness that she'll get old too.
Great comments from Feldmarshall and Anonymous.
Couldn't you have translated the Norwegian Eivind? The entire article may as well have been in Norwegian. Would have been easier for English readers to put it into Google translate.
It's understandable that the gay community were the most active 'MAPs' back then. The legalization of homosexuality basically created 'homosexuality'. Before then, it was almost entirely pederastry. So essentially gays were told - 'we will stop persecuting you, but only if you stick to adults'. It was a deal with the devil. And a way to validate age of consent laws for the Sexual Trade Union.
And if Norway was similar to the UK back then, then heterosexual men could probably bang underage teen girls with little risk of punishment, especially if they had the girl's parents permission. However, gay men would have a harder time having relationships with young boys.
Meanwhile, one police force in the UK has decided to make giving a woman an 'icky look' a criminal offence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq5itZVNHqE
Go to the links at heretic TOC and find Girl Chat.
It's not brilliant for a normal male, focusing as it does on actual pedo discussion, but it's better than nothing.
I find it to only be one of those forums that are interesting for 5-10 minutes every once in a while, but again, better than nothing, and the people there seems intelligent and nice.
There recently was an interesting thread about how the importation of illegals from Latin America could allow for cultural and legal change regaring sex laws.
-Anonymous 2
@G23
They are three different women, the aroace lesbian had Western anime style drawings most like are from Hazbin Hotel, the other (the third) I think they like it because of the feminization of men, which K-pop is very much to blame for, it represents the good man, submissive that he would never hurt them. Clearly these people are sick in the head, with daddy issues and relationship traumas and even possible mental disorders, if they weren't so hateful I would feel sorry for them.
Also about your other comment: Older women fuck with young people without hesitation, even those under 18, they have no moral problem with that, only men, even reading those who agree with us, when they become older feel bad about liking very young girls... Even admitting that when they are at their hottest it is around 16-19, but they would feel like pedophiles who take advantage of children. Women have NO problem, they talk about fucking young men, even considering the lowest age like 16, 17, etc. like trophies.
Also, some men, although they admit to me that they like teens even at 17 or 16 if they are VERY developed, say it disgusts them that they look like little girls, like childish facial features, I don't understand that, I like them to look like young girls and adult women at same time. Maybe, I don't know if it's social conditioning or it's genuine for some reason.
"So essentially gays were told - 'we will stop persecuting you, but only if you stick to adults'. It was a deal with the devil. And a way to validate age of consent laws for the Sexual Trade Union."
That's exactly what they told straight men in your time!!! Don't you understand AF? you can like young women but only those who are adults. (which is always the legal age of majority, not biological adulthood), but since feminism always needs enemies (and the theory of sexual value) it is increasingly rejected even with those of legal age, as we see daily.
We know why women want that. But why do men believe it? Believing in a social construct of adulthood at 18 (especially for sex) provides emotional security and social cohesion, a man is safe and content if he binds himself to the age of 18, he may technically be a "paraphilic ephebophile" like us but Society can makes sure that this is ignored, the bad guy, the degenerate who deserves punishment is the one who crosses the line, from being a criminal who makes a mistake to being sexually ill by definition, it is the natural step. But by screwing up that limit of 18, feminists are driving men crazy and that is why this reaction, so typical of incels, the alt-right, masculinists, traditionalists and "anti-feminists" of even defending attraction to young women, That is, always of legal age, which is 18.
This is what AF fails and does not realize (I think) that no matter how much a man admits and accepts attraction to young women, even technically teenagers, he will always have that magical limit called "legal adulthood", therefore even overcoming that "hegemonic feminism" we would continue to be social pariah, perverts and possibly criminals, only maybe better or maybe worse. There is my idea that we should do activism (even above the rest) to lower the age of majority to less than 18.
Yes, of course I do think that lowering the age of majority is the key! That's why I am so hostile to the MAP movement. All they are doing is validating the absurd age of majority of 18, while hoping pathetically that society (and in particular feminists, lol) will take pity on them and accord them 'sexual minority' status. In many cases, of course, they don't even want the age of consent reduced, because they are 'virtuous MAPs' and only want to fap off to their pre-pubescent anime porn.
This was my point regarding the campaigns to lower the voting age to 16, and pointing out that the hypocrites never say that they are calling for 'children to have the right to vote'.
We need to maintain that teens are not children, they are not even 'minors'. The very word 'minor' betrays what the concept really means - a young person who is sexually controlled by the State. And of course, men who are attracted to teens, even strongly preferential of teens, are not paedophiles.
This is all lost on Eivind, who is pursuing a course that is suicidal both for any opposition to the feminist war on male sexuality, and no doubt to himself.
16 and 17 year olds have been given the right to vote in the EU elections today, in Belgium, Germany, Greece, Austria, and Malta.
I think in Malta the age of consent is actually 18. Old enough to vote, but not old enough to have sex.
Of course, we should support lowering the age of voting, as it at least clouds the age of 'majority'. But we know it's being done by the Left in the expectation that young people will vote for their parties, and feminist politicians will get elected who will go on to increase the minimum age for sex work to 21 and such like.
But according to the BBC, it might actually backfire on them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqqq952e3v6o
Notice again, not a single mention of the word 'child', but 'young' and 'young people' is used repeatedly.
Evind thinks words mean whatever people use them to mean. So are 16 and 17 year olds children or not?
Biologically and sexually, childhood ends at puberty. I guess if it is precocious puberty I would still call them children, but certainly the now usual age of menarche which is just under 13 years old fully marks the transition into womanhood for me. And even if they aren't menstruating at that time they are still so fully developed that it is ridiculous to call them children in a biological sexual sense, or believe their brains are "undeveloped."
However, we are talking about social roles here. Social roles are extremely flexible, and if you are going to participate in society it is silly to claim social roles are not real. Also totally impractical. In that sense, the word "children" means what people use it to mean. This is where your thinking shortcircuits, because you seem incapable of considering that we have a say in what kind of expectations should come with the social role of a child. It is not set in stone that there should be a taboo on adults having sex with them. This is the primary lesson the MAP movement has thought me: it was silly to insist that sexually mature teens are not children; rather we should fight to obliterate the taboo on having sex with children. As a side effect, we don't necessarily mark the lower line on such a taboo at puberty either. Society has now erased that line and pretty much criminalized any recognition of it as "sexualization." Very well, then the path of least resistance is to sexualize the SOCIAL ROLE of children. This is my ideological mission, which means I no longer engage in the hopeless path of trying to convince society that 16 and 17-year-olds aren't children (or if you don't think that's hopeless, try it with a 13-year-old or mature 12-year-old...). They can be children if we want them to be: that's perfectly fine. But we have a say in what kind of sexual expectations should go into the "child" role, and a taboo on sex is not there in my view which I have every right to push as much as the normies push their antisex norm.
At the official tribute to D-Day (you know, those who "liberated" us from evil), one of the elderly war veterans said something like: "I was 19, I was just a child."
I say, if he was a child, why was he in the war? Isn't sending children to war a crime against humanity? Ah no, those types of "children" don't matter.
@AF
The age of consent in Malta was lowered to 16 recently, and it was thanks to some youth and women's groups, I said they were "feminist" organizations but others said it had nothing to do, I have no idea, I guess they are controlled by young people and not middle-aged envious old witches.
Also we must also understand that while some accept 16, 17 year old girls, they continue to consider 13 or 14 year old girls as pedophilia, that is a very serious disadvantage for us, because "adolescence" fluctuate between ages, it is not something fixed, they are not something static, like being a man or a woman (until gender ideology), that means that there are always those who accept some ages and others not, I think that is one of the worst disadvantages we have. We will always be a perverted child molester to someone else. That's the thing Eivind and the MAPs are right about, if all ages are accepted, even real chirldren, then it doesn't matter, I do consider that positive, at least they should let you like any age, being attracted to a child is not rape children.
@Eivind
You have literally validated the entire discourse of feminists, in fact the self-fulfilling prophecy of the radfem terfs that behind everything is the normalization and legalization of pedophilia. A woman of 16, 17, 18, 19 will never be a child, just as a man will never be a woman, do we have to believe now that a man in a dress is a woman? I am not saying this for ideological and cultural reasons but rather to not be part of a collective delirium. We are not pedophiles, we don't like children, we don't intend to have sex with children, this is what we have literally fought for every second of our lives, and now we throw it away? It doesn't matter what society and the laws think, accepting their speech even as something positive is being defeated. Now it turns out that I was a pedophile all this time and I want to fuck children, that is, I am the same as the one who wants to fuck 6-year-old children. At least with the "ephebophilia" label I defended that I like teenagers and that I want to fuck teenagers.
@FeldMarshall
"A woman of 16, 17, 18, 19 will never be a child, just as a man will never be a woman, do we have to believe now that a man in a dress is a woman?"
Yeah, we just have to get used to living in a world where these roles have a new meaning. But they only go so far. Transwomen can't force us to be attracted to them and the feminists and agecucks can't force us NOT to be attracted to teen girls.
If we don't want to participate in a debate given that these are the roles, then we have already lost because then we don't have a voice saying it's okay to be a MAP. On the other hand if we take it as given that minors are whatever society tells us, which can go all the way up to 25 for all we care, then we get right into the debate which really matters and have our voice heard.
Look at the winner of the Miss Alabama contest.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13505169/Who-Sara-Milliken-plus-sized-Miss-Alabama.html
Ironic that just about every man on Earth can see that this is ridiculous, but the former champion of normal male sexuality probably sees her as his dream woman.
Opinions about the European elections Eivind?
Wow, this is a coincidence. Malta may actually be lowering the age of consent again - to 14.
https://timesofmalta.com/article/consider-reducing-age-consent-court-says.1093469
https://www.insideedition.com/florida-teen-murders-grandmother
Honestly, I think it's outrageous that this 14 year old child survivor is being victim-blamed by the patriarchal Florida government and US media. Don't they know that a 14 year old child's brain isn't fully developed enough to understand the concept of murder?
Honestly, the grandmother got what she clearly wanted and deserved when she groomed the 14 year old child survivor into murdering her. Truly sick behavior by the grandmother, and shameful behavior by the government and media for blaming the true victim of abuse - the child survivor who murdered her grandmother without even knowing she was being groomed and abused into murder by the grandmother.
anon69
I don't have much of an opinion on elections anymore because all political parties are against us. However, the results of these European elections are interesting.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/11/opinions/scary-results-from-16-year-olds-voting-first-time-germany-hockenos/index.html
Young people can be especially impulsive, emotional, and are on a steep learning curve. Their dissatisfaction with the sluggish economic recovery, a pandemic that unfairly punished them (for nothing), and the world’s confluence of other crises is understandable.
But they must vent this pique constructively, as the extreme right has no answers to these problems (which, oddly, I’ve heard hard right voters say they recognize.) This rightist rebellion is a temper tantrum that impedes democracy from addressing its own shortcomings.
Even youth are turning right-wing now. I guess their leftist brain wasn't innate after all, to the disappointment of leftists. But they cling to the undeveloped-brain theory to explain this away too. No matter what young people do, they are never "truly" responsible because the imagined impulsive nature of their brain metaphysically invalidates all their choices.
No matter what young people do, they are never "truly" responsible because the imagined impulsive nature of their brain metaphysically invalidates all their choices.
Not "no matter what young people do", but rather "when young people do something that the ruling class does not like". When the ruling class likes what they do, then young people "have shown their sense of responsibility".
Well, oh well, oh well. Just take a look at this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13521727/paedophile-national-crime-agency-officer-faces-jail.html
British intelligence officer at the NCA (National Crime Agency) whose job is to track down paedophiles online, faces jail after viewing hundreds of child porn images on the Dark Web. I mean who would suspect anything like this could happen?
I remember a commentator here (I doubt very much if it was one of the good ones like Anon69, Jack, Anonymous 2, Feldmarshall) saying that there is no such thing as paedocrites as it was not possible for an individual to reach such a level of deceit (self or public).
I related on my blog once how I regularly used to pass the the NCA center in Victoria, London on the way home from the swimming baths. I'd often see some of the workers standing about outside on their coffee or smoking break, and every single one looked like a stereotypical paedophile.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is America's agecuck-in-chief:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-gov-ron-desantis-signs-human-trafficking-bill-in-coral-gables/3309452/
DeSantis signed HB 7063 at a news conference at Granada Church in Coral Gables.
The law prohibits the employment of persons younger than 21 years of age in adult entertainment establishments... The bill will take effect on July 1.
"This legislation will help better protect the most vulnerable in our communities, it will ensure that if businesses are not complying with these very modest, reasonable requirements, whether knowingly or unknowingly, they will be held accountable."
Well, if shielding children from sexuality until they are 21 is a modest requirement, I wonder how it will be when the hysteria really gets going.
London man jailed for over 4 years for 'rape' for taking off his condom during sex.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/13/london-man-jailed-stealthing-removing-condom-without-consent
Gary Glitter ordered to pay 'victim' over half-a-million pounds, and other money grabbing 'victims' set to follow.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13528559/Paedophile-pop-star-Gary-Glitter-80-lose-multi-million-pound-fortune-women-come-forward-sue-ordered-pay-508-000-one-victims.html
I've been reading another book on the spread of Christianity in the Roman Empire. This one is even more of a treasure trove of evidence that the Sexual Trade Union was a huge influence on early Christianity and a major reason for its growth.
Ancient writers mocked early Christianity for being popular only among women and slaves.
The early church in the Roman Empire benefitted greatly from donations given by the rich wives of noblemen.
Early Christianity was infamous for being a 'cult of virginity'. Older women, including Roman wives, converted en masse to Christianity and renounced sex alltogether. A predominant belief in the first couple of centuries of Christianity was that to be a true Christian, you had to renounce the 'sins of the flesh' entirely and give up sex, whatever your age, and even if you were married. The obvious impact on the birth rate this would have was not seen as a problem because right up until the 300's, Christians believed that the return of the Messiah was imminent.
One of the first Christian laws that the Emperor Constantine passed ordered that 'slaves who were found to be an acessory to the seduction of a young girl were to have molten lead poured down their throats'.
When Christian ascetics in their thousands ventured into the Egyptian desert alone, in order to escape the sins of the flesh and seek salvation with God, they would be haunted by visions of 'demons' in the form of young dancing girls. Such young dancing girls were a common feature of Greek and Roman 'symposiums' or dinner parties, and the aristocratic guests would often have sex with them.
Christianity, or at least the shaping of it into a puritanical anti-sex cult by Paul (who was probably gay or asexual) and others, must surely be the most cataclysmic event to befall mankind (that is - men). Although I do not agree with the likes of Milan Horvarth and the 'rationalists' that we can blame everything today on American Christian zealotry. It's always the Sexual Trade Union pulling the strings. In Europe, they predominantly take the form of left-wing feminists. In the USA, it is equally or even more so the work of femiservative Christians.
Wow, that had escalated more than I realized...
A man has been jailed for four years and three months in a rare conviction for “stealthing” – taking a condom off during sex without consent.
Guy Mukendi, 39, from Brixton, was sentenced on Thursday at inner London crown court for the rape of a woman last year. The woman had consented to sex with Mukendi on the condition a condom was used, but he removed it without her consent.
Nonconsensual condom removal is classified as rape under separate laws applying in the UK nations.
Fellow MAPs should be aware that MAP issues are just a fraction of the antisexual persecutions of our times. We do live in the dystopian horror-feminist world of my worst fears when I first was radicalized as an MRA a quarter century ago in the early days of Angry Harry. All his worst warnings came true and then some and I think he scarcely could have imagined the full extent of the hateful vindictive insatiable beast the abuse industry actually became.
Note that a woman "stealthing" the condom away to pregnancy-rape a man is certainly not even envisaged in the enforcement of such laws. It is yet another crime only men can commit.
Here's some better news.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9007v0n05yo
"I open this post with a classic: women freaking out that a 61-year-old rich man prefers a 19-year-old chick and not a 50-year-old divorced middle-aged woman."
@Feldmarshall - This week Wayne Lineker, who is a British celebrity known for dating women as young as 19 (he is 62), was knocked out in the street outside a Spanish nightclub. He was with two young women, and a group of British lads were pestering them, and when he tried to defend them one of the lads sparked him out cold, so he was lying on the pavement for 6 minutes unconscious with blood coming out his mouth.
Then I read the comments in places like the Daily Mail and on Twitter, both men and women are saying he deserved it because he's a 'paedophile'.
He was even called a paedophile for joking that he was dating a 25 year old female celebrity.
https://x.com/LoveRadioLondon/status/1366760440441827329
How did we get to this level of insanity?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/28453238/wayne-lineker-punch-knocked-out-cold-thugs-ibiza/
A prominent female #MeToo activist in China has been handed a five-year jail sentence for "subversion against the state".
Sophia Huang Xueqin was convicted and sentenced on Friday, nearly 10 months after she went on trial.
Labour activist Wang Jianbing, who stood trial with Ms Huang, was sentenced to three years and six months in prison.
Ms Huang, 36, had been one of the most prominent voices in China's #MeToo space, reporting ground-breaking stories about sexual abuse victims.
She had also spoken out about the misogyny and sexism she faced in Chinese newsrooms.
Chinese authorities have not made it clear how the two stood accused of subversion. The trial was a closed-door hearing.
China is perhaps the only regime left with balls. Too bad they are so oppressive in other ways than feminism.
"Christianity, or at least the shaping of it into a puritanical anti-sex cult by Paul (who was probably gay or asexual) and others, must surely be the most cataclysmic event to befall mankind (that is - men)."
We've had equal times under Christianity where the age of consent was basically non existent, but I would certainly agree christian feminists are cataclysmic for every man and woman. I think it's up to whatever f*ggot is in charge, and the attitudes of the citizens. What's funny is the Bible defines fornication basically as incest, bestiality, homosexuality, or adultery (banging a married woman only). Everything else was a wink and a nod as far as I can tell. And in the earliest Bibles, like the Marcionite for example, there's very little talk of any 'sins of the flesh'.
"How did we get to this level of insanity?"
Extreme feminism (male and female, left and right) feeds back into niggardly girls which feeds back into extreme sexual jealousy. A misfunctioning of the legal system is needed, whether it comes from the inability to fund NGO's or the destruction of the government by an outside force or spontaneous change in attitudes from immigration. We have potential catalysts in a currency crisis, a big west vs east war, and the migrant crisis.
"China is perhaps the only regime left with balls. Too bad they are so oppressive in other ways than feminism."
China and Russia are awesome for us. They can be oppressive within their own borders, we just need them to defeat the west to limit the west's ability to fund these international feminist operations.
anon69
You know Eivind, it might be interesting to set up a section on the MRA archive website that allows registered sex offenders to submit their own story of injustice, anonymously or not.
If it builds up, we could have an army of pissed off dudes with an axe to grind against these laws and the abuse industry. That could be powerful. Make sure you get their contact emails.
anon69
@ Eivind. Perhaps they have foreign links that would be considered treasonous even in so-called democracies. Maybe the Chinese govt. is only keeping secret what any Anglophone govt would also not release publicly, except with the fig leaf of specific charges.
If they're just obnoxious then I wouldn't support charging them with anything, but I'm not in a position to know one way or another.
About DeSantis and his lifting of adult entertainment venue work to 21, I am waiting to see if Y/tube bloggers or any of the mainstream Manosphere have anything to say about it. They don't seem to comment on new laws much for some reason.
-Anonymous 2
@Anon69 - Yes, the author of the book I'm reading (The Closing of the Western Mind) makes the point very well that there is very little in either the life of Jesus or the Old Testament for such an anti-sex view.
The power of the Sexual Trade Union seems to come in waves. It should give us hope that after each wave, there is often a far more liberal era. I remember reading (here I think) that in the medieval period in England, when people were being hung, drawn, and quartered for stealing sheep and the like, that banging even a 10 year old girl was met with a slap on the wrist.
"We have potential catalysts in a currency crisis, a big west vs east war, and the migrant crisis."
Absolutely. And you can throw in AI to the mix there. The next decade or two is going to be a rollercoaster, and society will likely be transformed more than it has for a couple of centuries. Again, a strong reason not to give up hope, or to be nihilistic and wish for the collapse of Industrial civilization to 'spite feminists'. We don't have to go that far to see some radical change (besides, nobody here would survive the collapse of civilization).
I was reading some scary stuff last night regarding the possible pace of AI progress. Maybe this guy is wrong in his belief that the Singularity could be just a couple of years away, but even if AI just advances a little bit more in the next few years, it's clearly going to shake up society. Of course, all that the Sexual Trade Union cares about is that some nerds and incels are deepfaking Taylor Swift.
https://x.com/Perpetualmaniac/status/1801438061366284531
AI will be used to entrap men. Have you noticed a growing percentage of porn is now AI-generated, especially soft porn? This means the "age" of the "models" becomes harder to ascertain. Pedo-hunters will be able to ascribe the age they see fit more often than was possible with real-life models. Expect pedo-hunters to make full use of this.
Is Judaism the first feminist, paedocrite and age-cuck civilization in history?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_relationships_in_Judaism#Youth
"The Sages taught that 18 is the ideal age to become married, and that before this age one should spend time studying scripture and getting their life in order"
"until she is matured and can say "I want to marry so-and-so", because a minor is "incapable of forming an opinion"
"with the punishment being rabbinically decreed whiplashes,[50][27] and emphasizes that both betrothal and marriage to minors is forbidden by rabbinic decree."
"minors" are not fit agents for betrothal "because they are lacking in mental capacity", as such they cannot meaningfully consent"
"The Sages in the Talmud strongly opposed a wide age gap between spouses in either direction (e.g., between a young man and an old woman, and vice versa),[53][54][55] especially in the case of marrying off one's young daughter to an old man, which they declared as reprehensible as forcing her into prostitution."
"Sanhedrin interpreted that Leviticus 19:29 forbids marrying off one's daughter to an old man because it might lead her to engage in adultery"
"The Talmud also teaches that "those who marry minor girls who are not yet capable of bearing children" will "delay the coming of the messiah."[58][59] In Avot de-Rabbi Nathan, Rashbi equates child marriage to murder"
Talmudic Judaism is where Gematria is from. These are the people who own the vast majority of mainstream media and entertainment, the news, tech companies, banks, and medicine.
The Vatican is connected via the Jesuits, Jews who converted to Catholicism. The Protestants might be a form of "controlled opposition" being secretly ruled by the Vatican.
Looking at that Wikipedia article you'll notice that Talmudic Judaism doesn't strongly prohibit lesbianism.
The way I read that article on Judaism, 18 is the recommended marriage age but minors are defined as under 13. So it's not quite as intolerant as you made it seem. Also no specific prohibition on age gap if the girl is up for it.
A little piece of good news, this scumbag Ed Matthews got arrested.
https://www.tiktok.com/@crimetalkuk/video/7381202302943694112
Ed Matthew’s didn’t do nothing he was catching predators from hurting the kids and he did the right thing to hurt them what they’ve done to little kids.
Free ed Mathews.
The charges are bollox, they lock up those exposing nonces rather than lock up the nonces.
He was impersonating a 15-year-old girl.
No one writes pro-teensex blog posts quite like Robert Lindsay. His latest is worthy of inclusion in full here:
https://beyondhighbrow.substack.com/p/about-the-matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking
Look I hate Matt Gaetz as much as anyone on the Left but I hate the shitlib prude feminists who are harping on this case about as much.
What he’s charged with isn’t sex trafficking. The “little girl” was a FUCKING WHORE. A little TEENIE WHORE. A prostitute. She was an expensive call girl. Gaetz, etc. were buying whores and she was one of them. She lied about her age and used a fake ID, so Ginsburg and Gaetz thought she was legal. Turns out the whore was 17 1/2. At this time she was not only fucking clients but also fucking both men and women for free. Like I said WHORE.
They finally uncovered that she was lying about her age, read her the riot act and told her to get out. Neither man had sex with her again. This is all uncontroversial. At the time she was legal, Gaetz flew her on an airplane from Florida to Georgia and then maybe had sex with her in Georgia. That’s “sex trafficking.” LOL! No it isn’t!
Because according to Fed Pigs (the worst pigs of them all), if you buy an underage whore, supposedly now you are “trafficking” her, I guess by fucking her. And transporting this underage whore across state lines is also “trafficking.” See how stupid this bullshit is. Grow some balls, men, and quit promoting this gay nonsense. Sex trafficking is supposed to be all about sex slavery to pimps. They’re being trafficked because they’re enslaved and can’t escape, which is probably the case with most pimps. No sex slavery, no trafficking.
In 2013 in the midst of the feminist Pedophile Mass Hysteria Teenage Girl Sex Panic, the stupid Congress made a new law totally redefining the term “sex trafficking” to where it is now grotesquely abused. Of course the Feds being pigs after all have gleefully prosecuted these BS cases along with the usual ridiculously excessive sentencing guidelines for federal crimes.
Anyway this chick was barely illegal. She would have been legal in most states except she was a whore and minors can’t be whores.
16 or 17 year old girls are legal in most states. They can fuck a 90 year old man if they want to. So you’re dating a 17 year old hottie. Good for you! You scored good brother! Bang that little teenie! Now according to fed pigs, if you buy this girl as little as one sandwich, you’re dating her legally anymore and you’re committing a federal crime of sex trafficking. Why? Because by buying her a SANDWICH, she’s now transformed into a literal prostitute. I gues all of us men are buying whores our whole life than all you women are nothing but a bunch of whores. Don’t blame me. I don’t write these pussy laws.
What’s this charming innocent little girl child doing now? She’s a PORN STAR. Like I said WHORE.
I would just love meeting up with Ed Matthews or some other "predator catchers"!
The miraculous appearance of sexual responsibility when minors themselves can be charged with a crime is a recurrent theme in the current madness, and here is another staggering example.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-paris-boys-charged-in-alleged-antisemitic-gang-rape-of-12-year-old-girl/
Two adolescent boys in a Paris suburb have been given preliminary charges of raping a 12-year-old girl and religion-motivated violence, French authorities said Wednesday. A Jewish leader said the girl is Jewish....
The girl reported the rape in the town of Courbevoie on Saturday, and three boys, aged 12 and 13, were detained, according to the regional prosecutor's office. It said two of the boys were given multiple preliminary charges on Tuesday, including aggravated gang rape on a minor younger than 15, violence and public insult motivated by religion, death threats, attempted extortion and unlawfully recording or broadcasting sexual images.
Methinks the normies must either quit attributing sexual agency and understanding to 12-year-old boys, or start attributing it to 12-year-old girls.
Savage and absurd- https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/sydney-bartender-andrew-hayler-jailed-after-sharing-digitally-altered-images-of-women-on-porn-site/ar-BB1oD2LK .
Minimum of 5 1/2 years on a 9 year sentence.
Okay, he doxed them- he "included identifying details such as their full names, occupations and links to their social media handles". However, this is clearly a separate matter from digitally altering the women's image in an age where the technology that allows this is well-nigh universal.
People have so little imagination and ability to detach from whatever they're told to believe that they can't comprehend that digital alteration can be done to anyone and therefore that it means nothing. If people think it's them, all they have to do is explain this. Perhaps that's a bit simplistic of me right now, but as time goes by, people will have to develop the habit of not assuming an image is real.
If there's any crime at all, it's in the doxing.
Nine. Goddam. Years
-Anonymous 2
I don’t get why doxing should be a crime. I remember before the Internet we had a physical phone book which doxed everybody including their profession. It’s a new affectation that this should be secret and I am not bowing to it. Social media is new but why should it come with an expectation of privacy? The point of social media is to be social so if they can’t handle that then don’t make an account.
As to the “sex crime” of faking porn of someone, it’s not that people don’t comprehend that digital alteration can be done to anyone and blindly believe any image -- it’s much worse than that. It is that they believe in the metaphysical badness of sexuality which by voodoo is invoked by these images even when everyone is well aware that they are fake. The whole antisexual persecution is so much worse than any sort of rational consideration taken too far, because it is a literal belief in witchcraft.
In some countries you can have an unlisted phone number. And in Anglo-Saxon countries, one's professional qualifications have never been listed.
Doxing is antisocial in some circumstances, but I agree, it shouldn't be a crime. In fact, I'd regard it as a good thing if the addresses of police were put on the internet. I like the word you used-affectation-because that's exactly what the current disapproval of doxing is. It's a form of virtue signaling that is loved by authoritarians everywhere.
If you tell/don't hide your social media handles, then you can never assume someone won't tell the world one day.
-Anonymous 2
A 29 yo Dutch male volleyball is getting crucified because he has qualified for the Paris Olympics, and he has a conviction in the Uk of 'raping' a willing 12 year old girl when he was 19.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13569727/volleyball-player-jailed-rape-girl-qualifies-Paris-Olympics.html
Just look at the comments underneath. Universally condemning him as a monster who should have been locked away for life or worse, and nobody questioning the definition of 'rape' applied. I downvoted one typical comment and I was the first downvoter after 270 upvotes. I know this is the 'Daily Fail' readership, but some people here seem to think there is a hidden groundswell of sympathy in the public for our cause.
He's also being attacked for his 'lack of remorse', after defending himself when he was released against accusations that he is a paedophile or sex monster. This is the BBC article from 2017 after his release from prison.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-39292039
"The court heard he was aware of the girl's age and went to her home when her mother was out and had sex with her, taking her virginity.
The NSPCC said: "Van de Velde's lack of remorse and self-pity is breathtaking and we can only begin to imagine how distressed his victim must feel if she sees his comments.
"Grooming can leave a child feeling ashamed or even guilty because they believe they have somehow willingly participated when, in fact, an adult has preyed upon them in order to sexually exploit them.""
More like - "can leave a child feeling ashamed or even guilty because we bitter old femihag rapists forced her to accept the victim role, made her testify in court against her lover and see him jailed, and told her over and over again that she was abused and will be damaged for life".
Feminists have redefined rape to mean a teenage boy having willing sex with a 12 year old girl.
Or to mean a man who removed his condom during sex. Or had sex with a drunk slut.
And yet they are doing all this to increase their own sexual market value, and to eliminate sexual competition and sexual alternatives for men. They are the real rapists.
Why aren't more people pointing this out and shouting it from the rooftops. FEMINISTS ARE THE REAL RAPISTS!!
Antisex is a virus of the mind. The normie religion is now to believe in "trauma" from consensual sex and to let the feminists redefine rape to whatever they want. Yes, the feminists are the real rapists because they raped our intellects and made the normies believe idiotic things. It's not so much about sexual market value because anyone who believes these delusions can't be said to have any sexual desire worth mentioning. They are fully invested in the idea that sexuality is the worst thing in the universe.
Although nothing works, the least bad strategy seems to me to be to point out the intellectual stupidity of it all. What kind of moron would believe 12-year-old girls can't consent and are abused and damaged from consensual sex? Let them know they are morons. Eventually it will sometimes sink in and some normies will not want to be perceived as so stupid by thinking individuals.
It's really sad, man. The damage these jealous hypocrite psychopaths are doing to young people in the name of feminism is infuriating, let alone the damage to heterosexual men and society at large. The anglo governments are tapping into this sexual negativity and using it to take as much advantage as they can, while they push tr*nnies and homo parades. It is a sick culture that is circling the drain; I hope it will hit the bottom soon, but it's going to be a while until it's fully defeated, so I will be avoiding angloworld.
I was at an anglo vacation area the other day and saw a girl who looked to be about 12, sitting alone, totally unhappy, waiting for anything good to happen, probably sick of her sh*tty family and looking for some fun. If it were only a few decades ago, I could've said hello, asked if she wanted a drink or a smoke, gone somewhere interesting, and maybe had some fun sex together. But now, I cannot do anything, and apparently no one else would either because every man went out of his way to ignore her. How did that make her feel, feminists? You c*nts, you do nothing but ruin everyone's lives.
Then there was that recent story about the 12 yr latina murdered by Venezuelans in Texas after they had sex. Pig feminists are calling it "rape-murder", but she left her house alone and willingly went with them to a secluded area under a bridge. The dumb Venezuelans killed her because of the pig feminist christian conservative sex laws, obviously. I see no one making this connection, since the jealous psychopaths believe all 12 yr old sex is just as bad as murder. The feminist hysteria got her killed, because without that, 99% chance everyone has a great time and walks away unscathed.
Feminists are responsible for the murder of teenagers.
-anon69
The connection with sexual market value was that older women with declining sexual market value wanted to keep 12-year old girls and other teenage girls out of the market.
Many older women may well be doing that without having themselves any identifiable sexual desire left. They may just be acting out an inborn instinct. At times when women died young and bore 5 children each, such an instinct was anecdotal.
A human Society with lots of elderly people and few children may well not be socially viable at all, undergoing autolysis under its own lies and hypocrisy.
Children, let alone beautiful ones, have become such a rarity with 1.2 children (or less?) per married couple. Soon children will be kept in a "safe space", under glass in a sterile atmosphere like in some scifi movies, in order to protect them against themselves and the universe.
Hope she's happy with herself- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13581839/Madeleine-West-federal-police-paedophile-detective-online-child-safety.html .
The girls were under nine but it was only being filmed and online banter, IOW a typical beat up.
I think woman who reported it, actress Madeleine West, has a smug, nasty look on her face. She is most famous, or only famous, for wearing a wire to incriminate a guy in Australia who has been put away for many years for abusing children, including herself as a child. It was apparently unwilling.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. The fact that she appears in something unrelated yet in the same category, and her general vibe, is making me wonder if he really was the monster the media portrays him as.
-Anonymous 2
"A human Society with lots of elderly people and few children may well not be socially viable at all, undergoing autolysis under its own lies and hypocrisy. Children, let alone beautiful ones, have become such a rarity with 1.2 children (or less?) per married couple. "
Yes, that's the main issue that connects all the dots. More and more often, women don't want children that might hinder their sex life by deforming their bodies and taking up their time. As there are more and more older overweight women, we can see the taboo moving from "underage" to "younger" (age gap). That's when the sexual market value comes into the picture. Even for women (or men) who have no desire or hope to compete, there's plenty of leisure time for simmering with bitterness and envy.
More bad news as always.
Female sex offender charade in New Jersey:
https://nypost.com/2024/06/29/us-news/nj-special-ed-teacher-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-student-prosecutor/
A New Jersey special education teacher was charged with molesting one of her students, authorities said.
Allison Havemann-Niedrach, a 43-year-old special education teacher at Freehold Intermediate School, was hit with one count each of first-degree aggravated sexual assault and second-degree child welfare endangerment, Monmouth County Prosecutor Raymond Santiago said Saturday.
The prosecutor’s office did not say how many times Havemann-Niedrach assaulted her pupil or how authorities learned about the abuse. The student’s age is also unknown, but grades six through eight attend Freehold Intermediate School.
Poland goes full feminazi on rape law, making sex rape by default:
https://notesfrompoland.com/2024/06/28/polish-parliament-approves-new-rape-law-making-sex-without-consent-a-crime/
A large majority in the Sejm, the more powerful lower hour of parliament, has approved a change to Poland’s rape law that would make it a crime to engage in sexual intercourse without the consent of the other person.
The current law – which dates back to 1932 – defines rape as an act that “subjects another person to sexual intercourse by force, unlawful threats or deception.” It does not specify lack of consent as a criterion.
That has resulted in rulings such as one in 2020 in which a man was acquitted of raping a 14-year-old girl because the judge accepted his argument that the fact she did not scream during the act meant that the perpetrator did not use violence. Today, 335 members of the 460-seat Sejm voted in favour of a proposal by The Left (Lewica), one of the groups that make up Poland’s ruling coalition, to define sexual intercourse with “a lack of conscious and voluntary consent” as rape.
Most of those votes came from the ruling coalition, whose members range from the left to the centre-right. The only major party to vote entirely against the measure was the far-right Confederation (Konfederacja).
The national-conservative Law and Justice (PiS), which constitutes the main opposition group, was divided: 94 of its MPs voted in favour of changing the law, 26 were opposed while 47 abstained and 22 did not participate in the vote.
During a debate on the bill yesterday, some MPs from Confederation and PiS argued that it would deprive men of the presumption of innocence and could be used by women to falsely accuse men of rape.
“The new law is pure demagogy and de facto a gift for ruthless and vindictive women who will now be able to use this law to attack their former lovers,” said PiS MP Grzegorz Lorek, quoted by broadcaster TVN.
“This bill introduces a de facto presumption of guilt, a presumption of guilt that every person accused of rape will have to prove that he or she is not a criminal,” added Witold Tumanowicz of Confederation.
However, another PiS MP, Agnieszka Wojciechowska van Heukelom, declared that she supported the bill because “a woman’s will, a woman’s awareness when engaging in a sexual act is very important, so I am absolutely on the side of women.”
It's good to see that Polish men have some politicians in their corner somewhat, something that's simply not to be found in many countries. It's almost unknown to hear any pushback from established politicians.
I also find it interesting that at least some conservative forces opposed the new law. In the overall scheme of things, this opposition could be more important than the law itself, because it's virtually a given that such sh*t will be passed by a legislative body if it is prepared and voted on.
Evidently, at least some of those who are opposing the GAE (Globalist American Empire), with all its woke ideology, are also on the side of men when it comes to these sorts of rape laws. All too often, conservatives will rail against transgender bathrooms for example, but white knight it to the hilt in other areas such as rape laws.
Who knows, maybe, just maybe, in some parliament somewhere in the world, an initiative to raise the age of consent will be defeated or at least forcefully denounced instead of supported by everyone.
Wouldn't that be a shock to feminists and white knights who are used to getting their own way all the time?
-Anonymous 2
The right-wingers won the French election but they're not the kind we should expect much from. The only candidate with some antifeminism in him was Eric Zemmour, and he got snubbed by voters. People somewhat familiar with French politics will remember he recently got deserted and betrayed by members of his own party after the European Parliament elections.
Why such misfortunes? I think it is because of lookism. Zemmour looks awful. He is small. His face is cartoonish. This shouldn't matter with voters but it does.
Lookism is an overlooked feature in the present mass hysteria. I made the point before that the celebrities who got treated worst by MeToo - relative to what they had really been up to - were the ones with poor looks (Weinstein, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, Ron Jeremy). Such men needed to get punished for daring have had success with women at some previous point in their lives.
@Jack
I totally agree with your post in general and about Zemmour in particular. He makes most women cringe which is a very bad omen when you run for election. Macron and Bardella are both (rather) young and good-looking.
The other thing is that he's a jew and very much anti-muslim...
I've been meaning to reply to Jack's comment but Amelio beat me to it.
As he says, there's another kind of "ism" at play with Zemmour and it starts with "anti".
His ant-Muslim stance might not hurt him that badly though, since Muslims aren't going to vote for conservative politicians in large numbers.
Macaron is apparently a Spanish pejorative for male homosexual, so Emmanuel Faggot, lol.
-Anonymous 2
Now even Indonesia !
https://news.yahoo.com/news/indonesia-dismisses-chief-election-commissioner-135805315.html
https://groningenobserver.com/the-rapists-tactics-herry-wirawan/
Look at this article about the poor teenage students under the magic age of 18 who had sex with their school principal and then had all their needs taken care of, including room and board and midwives for pregnancies. For his heinous crime of sex without assault (redefined now as "rape") and taking care of his little harem (the true crime is obviously feminist jealousy), the principal was sentenced to DEATH, as the girls figured out they could get more money and attention immediately if they all turned on him at once. The funny part is, since women are generally very stupid, they don't realize their betrayal will actually get them less money and attention in the long term because they destroyed their main provider and the father of their children.
If he would have killed them instead of taking care of them, he would've had a better chance. Funny how the feminist media never mentions the incentive they themselves create to kill any female who might cry fake rape. There is an argument to be made that it is unethical to have sex with the students you evaluate as a teacher. There are also arguments that women should not be educated, they still have the choice to say yes or no to sex, and the penalty for unethical behavior in education should not be anything close to DEATH.
Indonesia has turned into a complete feminist sh*thole. They had their own Metoo moment where they passed a new fake "rape" law in 2022 and it's only getting worse. I guess that proves the feminist virus isn't just a western phenomenon, although the feminist outrage is spread through western social media aka twitter and facebook, so it all comes back to the anglosphere screwing up the world again.
anon69
I saw the story of the UK female teacher who has been locked up for 6 years, reported in a Czech news site.
https://www.novinky.cz/clanek/zahranicni-evropa-za-sex-s-zaky-poslal-britsky-soud-byvalou-ucitelku-do-vezeni-jednomu-z-chlapcu-porodila-dite-40479063
The comments are completely different to what you would find in the UK, or the USA.
https://www.novinky.cz/diskuze/zahranicni-evropa-za-sex-s-zaky-poslal-britsky-soud-byvalou-ucitelku-do-vezeni-jednomu-z-chlapcu-porodila-dite-40479063
I put a few into Google Translate. And these are the ones getting upvotes.
"Ugh, that's twisted
This is how to deny a boy contact with the mother of his future child :)"
"I would be quite interested in the reason why the British authorities "quickly took away" the newborn child from his mother 😰
By the way, when I was 15, I remember one teacher whose victim I would very much like to be... 🤣 And I remember her even though it's been more than 50 years... 🤗"
"She probably seduced the first one, and as a teacher, that's unacceptable. But the other one already contacted her himself when she was no longer a teacher, and I don't know how in Britain, he was no longer under the law here. Why the child was taken away from her is not explained at all, nor why she prevented the child's father from having contact with his child, when she gave him the clues that he was the father - this indicates that she originally wanted to raise the child with him. I am afraid that there is a lack of information here, and it is probably to the detriment of the woman."
"It's common knowledge, but when we were fifteen, like all boys, we looked for and sometimes even found such a sex teacher. Although not from the side of the teachers, but from the so-called married ladies. I'm not aware of what negative impact it left."
Hidden information to the detriment of the woman? The normies just can't bring themselves to believe the state is simply evil, can they? Even when they see it is absurd, they have to rationalize the antisex hate as somehow probably justified anyway. We can never get out of this nightmare (except by random cultural drift which might take centuries) because this is how obtuse normies are.
Whenever I am privy to the hidden details of "sex abuse" cases the persecution is usually MORE evil than it looks in the media, since that view is heavily biased against admitting consent, and that goes when men are convicted too.
https://www.eroticabyclohi.com/rape/
I was just reading some rape fantasy erotica. Everyone should, to remind themselves of the true nature of females - every female is biologically wired to enjoy being sexually dominated against their will, it is their #1 fantasy. 50 Shades Of Grey is their favorite book for a reason, these stories are not written for men. When you finish reading, you immediately feel reality smack you in the face - we live in an inverted world that puts these creatures into leadership positions and caters to their "rape" lies and false victimhood. Imagine, women and the feminist government brazenly lie about "rape" being abuse even when it's publicly the #1 best selling media for women! It would be silly if it wasn't so sad.
"Rape" is clearly the opposite of abuse against females because they want it and enjoy it. Feminists pass laws against "rape" and constantly cry about it because they selfishly want bigger orgasms - the bigger the penalty risk, the more dominant the man who disregards it, and thus the bigger the orgasm. This is how females operate. It's also why they go to "therapy", because they can't get their attraction to "rapists" out of their head.
Females and homosexual men have set up this sick system to cater to the female orgasm, which is also why we see so many scientific studies obsessed with it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36208324/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10108237/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3894744/
etc
In light of this, we have another reason why women hate hate hate good young prostitutes (honest women who have sex for money hurt the rape mythology) and good young pornography - because these options give men an opt out to participating in this sick system set up to give females the biggest orgasms by exaggerating a property crime.
And on that note, here is a man who got himself a good young prostitute (aka "child trafficking victim" LOL) and was nice enough to provide countless other men with good young pornography from her for a reasonable price:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/onlyfans-sex-children/
For his serious crime against christian conservative feminism, he is subjected to every anti-male slander, lie and exaggeration they can possibly imagine to give him life in prison... as they flick their beans to the next popular rape fantasy novel, and their simp homosexual husbands in law enforcement apply the petty tyranny of women for a whiff of pussy power. GHEY
anon69
"I was just reading some rape fantasy erotica. Everyone should..."
While I don't really have the time or inclination to delve into women's romance fiction, I concede that I am probably guilty of downplaying women's rape fantasies myself. Rape fantasies are both taboo and everywhere at the same time. They are a constant cultural presence in both fiction and the incessant accusations against men; we just can't admit there is any truth to women being into that sort of thing for the apparent reason they are. And MAPs have their hands full trying to get the public to understand that minors can actually consent when they say they are consenting and the "predator" is a total nice guy, which remains so taboo in the mainstream that I can't fathom raising awareness that even "underage" girls have rape fantasies same as women because they are women. Which adds yet another layer to the media bias I referred to in my last comment.
Women and homosexual governments have us mired in this consent gibberish, when anyone can see that rape pornography is literally a best seller on Amazon right now, in both books and movies!
https://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Shades-Grey-Book-Trilogy/dp/0345803485
https://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Shades-Grey-Dakota-Johnson/dp/B00TJYYKD6
And this doesn't include all the rape porn spin-offs that are also best sellers - go see for yourself.
This whole "consent" garbage is a gigantic lie, meant to filter for dominant men that women desire as they lie that they don't. This is women's psychology.
You're right, MAPs are lame in their current ideology, because they think operating within the complete feminist lie of "consent" will somehow bring about anti-feminist change.
Every time someone starts screaming about rape of females, just send them those Amazon links and tell them to SHUT THE F*CK UP.
anon69
Rape fantasies indeed.
A decade ago MGTOW Barbarossa did a few vids about "hybristophilia", the attraction of women to violent criminals.
I am convinced violence is at the heart of the female and male psyche. Violence is the only thing that commands respect in Society. Drug offenders and sex offenders are non-violent, hence they get herded to jail like sheep in their millions for victimless crimes. Compare with the IRA in Ireland and the ETA Militar in Spain: a handful of individuals. They brought whole governments to their knees with mere violence (bombs).
Meanwhile crowds of vociferous football supporters are filling stadiums in Germany. Imagine for a change those supporters (men) staging a demonstration for their sexual rights. What a tsunami that would be! Not likely to happen. Do those men not care about sex? Of course they do, but there's something they care for 10 times more: the fight of men against men. Football pitches men against men in an arena. The German do not call some of their stadiums "arena" for nothing. Fighting between men, rivalry between men. That's what matters to men.
And that is also what women want of course. The ultimate female fantasy: a blood bath between men followed by rape by the victors.
Raw violence is fun, especially when it's controlled by rules like at the soccer match. But it's definitely not the only thing that commands respect among men, in fact most things that command respect do not directly involve violence.
Tucker Carlson got alot of complaints for saying women are like dogs, but it's true in the sense they respond to raw violence and dominant psychology.
"Let's you and him fight over me" is definitely a female desire, and mature men understand this game and avoid it because they know it's a trick. The fact that hordes of males are obsessed with soccer and fighting over women doesn't prove those things are masculine, it just proves the majority of the world right now is retarded and homosexual.
It would certainly be awesome if male sex offenders (who could fill multiple stadiums now) banded together to commit to changing the feminist government. It's quite possible, I've liked this idea since it was suggested by AF, we should find a way to organize them.
anon69
By the way Eivind, have you seen that stunt by your "Minister of Culture"? She was named Fag Hag of the year and exposed her very ugly boobs to the cheers of the crowd.
If Fellini had been presented with that kind of scenario, I think he would have declined the offer : too depraved and insulting for the Culture giants of our civilisation — most of whom would be labelled sex criminals by our present standards. What's your take on this bold cultural manifesto ?
I don't mean ugly people should be ashamed. They should try to shine in other ways and not mar the value of beauty by being proud of what's ugly in them.
I didn't see that boob stunt of the culture minister until now, but lol, here it is:
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/KMz5Pe/kulturminister-lubna-jaffery-kaaret-til-aarets-fag-hag-flashet-puppene-paa-scenen
I wouldn't say ugly. She actually looks very good for her age, but I am not going for 44-year-old women who are at the end of their reproductive lives.
Also there is a public "debate" about whether she is a sex offender for exposing herself who should be dealt with by the police...
https://www.vl.no/meninger/kommentar/2024/07/04/lubna-jaffery-dreiv-ikkje-med-blotting-pa-pride/
Which takes the female sex offender charade and general antisex hysteria to yet another surreal level. I feel sympathy for her now and would hope she can learn a lesson about just how hateful the climate is that she she can apply to politics to help us turn the tide. I bet she never would have imagined that she herself could so easily become a target of the same bigotry she condones politically, but now she can see for herself that we are all sex offenders, women and men alike, because there is zero tolerance to sexuality anymore. Honorable mention to Vårt Land (a Christian newspaper) for voicing some uneasiness about how far it has gone though:
"Utfordringa var at opptrinnet vart fanga på video og spreidd via ei rekke medium, med den etterfølgjande offentlege debatten som måtte følge slikt. Foreløpig sist ut i rekka er kommentator i avisa Dagen, Sofie Braut. Ho spør retorisk kvifor ingen melder Lubna Jaffery til politiet for blotting...
Då er det langt verre, og meir alvorleg, at eitt av hovudpoenga i Braut sin kommentar er å samanlikne dei (halv-)nakne brysta til Lubna Jaffery på Pride med ei kriminell handling. Braut trekk parallellar – sjølv om ho seier at ho ikkje gjer det – mellom læraren som i Hordaland tingrett nyleg vart dømt til 60 dagar fengsel etter å ha sendt seksualiserte bilete og videoar til elevane sine.
Ved å kalle det Jaffery gjer «blotting» skuldar Braut hendig statsråden for å vere ein seksuell avvikar utan å måtte ta orda i munnen. Blotting er eit spesifikt omgrep som ikkje berre tyder å kle av seg, men å få ein form for seksuell tilfredsstilling av at andre ser ein avkledd. Det er, igjen, grunn til å minne om at brystvortene til Jaffery var tildekka.
Det er knappast så ein trur sine eigne auge når kommentatorar i seriøse norske aviser ser det som skjedde og reaksjonen ikkje er oppgjeven himling med augo, men å gripe etter Noregs lovar."
" I feel sympathy for her now and would hope she can learn a lesson about just how hateful the climate is that she she can apply to politics to help us turn the tide."
She's just a fake rebel and the protests of puritans make her stunt look bold and political even though it's just vulgar and not very risky in this time and age. A minister of culture shouldn't do that in a "normal" society but being a women, of immigrant descent and a fag hag she's immune to punishment.
You really think her sunken boobs look good for her age ? Lots of 44 yo women still have perky natural breasts !
Re: Herry Wirawan, https://groningenobserver.com/the-rapists-tactics-herry-wirawan/ and
, why aren't those nice ant-death penalty folk at Amnesty International making any noise about this? We all know why.
Another jellihag age gap non-story from the Fail- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13606037/Lily-Chee-Tobey-Maguire-rumored-love-interest.html and
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13605469/Tobey-Maguire-Lily-Chee-dating-rumors-Michael-Rubin.html .
The comments are predictably appalling. However, I think I can notice far more comments calling out the jealousy than before, and I've been observing this kind of story for years.
Also, the jealousy of the readership is revealed by the voting pattern for comments on the appearance, character and general attractiveness of the young women. All the votes for protecting these women are suddenly no longer there when a bitchy comment is made. The readers want to protect "children" from "creeps" but are fine with up voting critical comments about the girls and downvoting positive comments.
Finally, I couldn't resist quoting this wanker, shadow 2015, whoever he is-
"Yikes I’m 26 and view someone who’s 20 almost as a teen/child, as do most of my peers. Not a good look." -from https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13605469/Tobey-Maguire-Lily-Chee-dating-rumors-Michael-Rubin.html
-Anonymous 2
Should this count as MAP activism?
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/06/nx-s1-5031483/florence-kentucky-shooting
He was previously persecuted for bullshit "rape" of a 13-year-old girl and was definitely a political prisoner which is to say one of us:
https://www.fox19.com/2021/08/13/man-charged-with-raping-girl-13-he-met-snapchat/
So if there is a causal link between the persecution and the violence I'd say that counts.
Modern fake rape charges are infuriating, the lies and slander can be too much to bear for anyone, let alone a younger guy with less experience. Imagine, the teen girl went to him and gave him a blowjob before they banged! It doesn't even meet the requirements of classic fake rape, which required real evidence of assault like a black eye or broken bones.
I say classic fake rape because even that was a hoax, because we know females desire to be raped, in fact most say any pain gives them more pleasure. DON'T GET MAD AT ME, I'M JUST THE MESSENGER QUOTING WHAT THEY SAY THEMSELVES. They had to come up with a fake "diagnosis" like "hyberistophila" or whatever in order to hide the truth and pretend it's abnormal, when in fact all females are wired this way.
Men created the original "rape" laws because they knew the stupid sexual desires of females could get them killed, so they wanted to protect them from themselves by adding an extra deterrent to prevent an assault from happening. Obviously as we know now, this has been arbitrarily perverted by females and homosexuals in government as a way to increase feminist-government political power and the intensity of the female orgasm by removing the requirement of an actual assault, which was the whole damn purpose of the "rape" law to begin with.
It was never about "consent" or "respecting women" or "sexual abuse" or "keeping minors safe" or the myriad of other feminist deceptions used to substitute the original intention of the law, to turn it into a tool of male oppression and rape fetishism.
These young dudes who snap always pick the worst targets, like their stupid peers or whatever, without understanding the bigger picture.
At least it's encouraging to see more critical comments about sexual jealousy emerging. We should help this sentiment.
anon69
I generally agree, but I think I should emphasize that I believe real rape exists. For example, if Chase Garvey who just went berserk in Kentucky had picked the girl up at random in that parking lot instead of befriending her beforehand on Snapchat and obviously having her meet with a mind to sex, it would have been believable that that she genuinely didn't want it (she still should have resisted more, though). But that is incredibly rare compared to all the "rape" which gets accused nowadays or is labeled as such by the justice system. As a practical matter, rape is almost all fake, but we can't be seen as a serious movement if we deny that it exists in principle.
Yes of course, I think everyone can agree fake rape classic can remain criminalized because at least that crime gives us tangible conditions to satisfy, such as bruises, broken bones, black eyes, etc.
Convicting a man of rape without real evidence of assault is complete lunacy and ends up where we are today, a policy of complete feminine and homosexual government dominance. We cannot have laws based on a circumstantial guess of whether she wanted sex or not, whether she meets a man 5 minutes or 5 months before she has sex with him.
And I went through the whole exercise above to show that heterosexual rape, aka the taking of women against their will with assault, is literally not a big deal; and of course, without an assault, it is a totally regular and wanted seduction. How ludicrous it is that females claim to be victims of rape when they literally desire it based on their own preferences, publicly viewable by all. Talk about evidence!
The usefulness of my point is that we can use it as a counter to hysterical virtue signaling and victim olympics about how we need tougher and tougher penalties for rape, less evidence, and higher ages of consent. They are now convicting French movie producers of modern fake rape without assault or evidence from 30 years ago! It's Weinstein on steroids now.
50 Shades of Grey and rape fantasy media being best selling pornography for women needs to be screamed in people's faces every time an insane modern fake rape case is pursued.
anon69
In 2018 ex porn actress Brigitte Lahaie went on the record as saying women can enjoy rape:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5333192/some-women-enjoy-being-raped-claims-ex-porn-star-brigitte-lahaie-as-she-joins-hundreds-of-french-women-slamming-metoo-movement/
She kind of stuck to her guns afterwards instead of retracting and groveling like people often do in similar circumstances.
She had signed a petition AGAINST the MeToo movement along with 100 other women. The petition signatories disowned Lahaie for her comment about rape. This shows how deep-rooted the rape taboo is.
Okay. A pedophile is one who is aroused by prepubescent girls/boys. But a guy who tries to seduce 16-year-olds is basically a bastard and he should take a good beating.
The only thing I can think of is that a normal 30-year-old guy is with a 16-year-old and it's because she lied to him. Normal straight men are not kid groomers, despite the fantasy of people here.
Even that depends on what age that age difference is.
If a 60-year-old marries a 30-year-old, it is not the same as a 50-year-old marrying a 20-year-old.
Even so, a 20-year-old doesn't have a knucklehead and is much more difficult to manipulate than a 16- or 18-year-old.
Women know perfectly well that at their peak of beauty is when they have the most opportunities to choose a partner.
The simple ones believe they have time. The lists already choose men who will be good husbands and fathers even if they don't have the itch that much.
Women in adolescence reach their peak testosterone. That's why they are so annoying and must be controlled.
Parents who do not control and do not minimally repress their sons and daughters at those ages are either bad parents or they are parents who believe that children should not be opposed, otherwise they will become even more of a drag (that is, they let things do, hoping that kids don't screw up).
We know that the brain continues to grow and mature until the age of 25. For that reason alone, alcohol should be prohibited for everyone up to that age...
I don't think that comment contributed anything more than inanities. Just mindless normie shibboleths. From now on, unless there is some sign of actual thinking behind sex-hostile or age-gap-hostile comments I won't publish them because they are just wasting our time and might even be AI-generated. We have seen the standard "arguments" and myths a million times and have better things to do. Opportunities to hone our debate skills are welcome, but it would have to be something more original.
Here's an impressive but also depressing archeological finding:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/04/science/worlds-oldest-ritual-intl-scli-scn/index.html
Buried deep in an Australian cave, archaeologists have uncovered evidence that an Aboriginal ritual may have been passed down 500 generations and survived 12,000 years, making it the oldest known continuous cultural practice in the world, according to a new study....
Howitt detailed the rituals carried out in Cloggs Cave by powerful GunaiKurnai people whom he dubbed “sorcerers,” “wizards,” or “medicine men and women,” but who are known as “mulla-mullung” among the GunaiKurnai people.
Their rituals would seek to harm adversaries or heal the sick by finding something belonging to the subject, attaching it to a throwing stick along with human or animal fat.
The stick was “then stuck slanting in the ground before a fire, and it is of course placed in such a position that by-and-by it falls down,” Howitt wrote in the 1880s.
We have no reason to believe such a ritual is good for anything more than the placebo effect at best, yet they kept doing it for 12,000 years. There is also no evidence of harm in nonviolent CSA, yet the ritual of locking up sex offenders persists... hopefully not for 12,000 years, but it goes to show there is really no limit to the duration of superstitions.
"But a guy who tries to seduce 16-year-olds is basically a bastard and he should take a good beating."
I think that generic comment is AI generated, but if it's not, I would say - try it f*ggot! With a testosterone level that low, we'll even let you get a few sissy slaps in before we take you down.
How interesting is it that an honest woman, a professional involved in documenting her adventures (pornography), came out and said the obvious about women's enjoyment of rape. Of course, we know why dishonest women (amateurs) and dishonest men (simps) have a vested interest in perpetuating the rape taboo - it's the source of their power.
"The group, which included the film star Catherine Deneuve, 74, caused an outcry in France with their attack on the "puritan persecution" of men after the Harvey Weinstein scandal." Brigitte Lahaie is a true hero and a brave anti-feminist.
In terms of lasting superstitions, we have to look at the motivations and perpetrators of the myths - powerful people in the Aboriginal tribe who organized lower people against their common adversaries, so the powerful people could maintain power and the lower people could share in that power.
The problem is heterosexual men (and women, as a secondary effect) lose just as much power as they gain if they go along with the agenda of the powerful feminists in government. Which explains why the feminist west is so interested in turning everyone gay with chemicals in the water and propaganda in the media, and also explains why it is busy destroying itself against the BRICS alliance, because feminism is ultimately a self-destructive ideology.
anon69
This antisex screed at least has some twisted humor to it, showcasing the deranged depths of demonological metaphysical badness of sexuality that the normies believe in:
https://internationalyouthliberationunion.quora.com/IYLU-Manifesto
IYLU Manifesto [International Youth Liberation Union -- We are not vigilantes. We are Freedom-Fighters against child predators.]
If Quora moderation deletes this the algorithm is run by pedophiles.
So I’m making this manifesto against pedophilia. The entire purpose of this manifesto is to better state our goals, and to hopefully rally us together.
We must stop the scourge that is beginning to plague our species. Pedophilia must be eradicated by any means necessary. Pedophilia is as disgusting as it is vile. The thoughts of such acts towards our youth is unacceptable. We must dedicate everything in order to ensure that all pedophiles are erased from existence as a whole. We must wipe them out without any remorse for pedophiles are not human, they gave up on that chance the moment they began having sexual desires for children and teenagers. In order to protect our youth from these predators. We must wipe out every root and stem, we must not show any kindness towards them. For they only desire to harm, nothing more. There can’t be any mistakes, for it just takes just one to survive and pedophilia can continue to spread through decrepit acts. We must be willing to sacrifice our own freedoms, and minds in order to wipe out pedophilia. We must dedicate ourselves to this ambitious objective. If we do not succeed then terrible things will happen and we will be powerless. Hunt them down, spare no quarter. For whatever they will do to you vice versa is far worse than death.
...aka loser high school guys losing their minds because they can't get the hot high school chicks and they blame older men, and also high school guys who have an attraction to pre-pubescent children and want to cover it up.
I note they are all from North America, where feminism has made it acceptable for frustrated young retarded boys in high school to hate male heterosexuality.
anon69
Patrik Sjöberg is an anti sexualist who hunts normal men. Patrik Sjöberg is an olympic pole jumper from Sweden
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/patrik-sjoberg-hanger-ut-man-som-sexchattar-med-barn-sa-forsvarar-han-pedofiljakten-dumpen-pedofili
This site made me cry and then very angry.
Are children.. what the f..k is wrong with you people.
We need to protect them with are lives and not let stuff like this happen to them.
I swear if anyone lays a hand on my daughter I will lose control and in up in jail for murder.
Hi Anonymous. What is your daughters Snapchat?
Very encouraging video and even more so, comments-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0PWnG7sPSs
Looking at a couple of videos, there seems to be some confusion as to whether LdC's latest girlfriend (real or beard, doesn't matter), is 19 0r 22. People in this clip seem to be going with 19, and defending him to the hilt.
What's good about this?
-21 is the next age the simps and jellies are starting to target legislatively, eg in Florida and Texas. Now, 19's not exactly 14 or even 18, but it's well short of 21. The choice of a GF bordering on 21 would be easier for the jellies and simps to deal with since they don't have to wade into a fight where the age is well below their next target. Instead, they have to respond to an age bordering on 18, which they've already largely managed to intimidate men into regarding as unacceptable.
-It seems that all of a sudden, people get it-the jealousy I mean. I don't want to sound dramatic, but I almost couldn't believe the comments. Bang bang bang bang bang, right on target. In all seriousness, I wonder if it's some sort of hundredth monkey effect.
-Anonymous 2
Wow that video is awesome and so are the comments! Finally found the honest anti-feminist men with cojones, there are also comments about girls under 18 desiring older men and the extreme jealousy this creates in women and womanly men. There are a few f*ggots who attempt to say a girl should be "an adult over 18" or should avoid age gaps, and they get blasted by the other guys. Wow, excellent.
Someone also dropped the hot comment quoting Yeats "I have known more men destroyed by the desire for a wife and child and to keep them in comfort than I have seen destroyed by drink and harlots." Wew lad!
Sexual trade union theory on full and honest display, and with popularity. Eivind take note, this could be you blasting feminists like the guy in this video and talking about sexual jealousy driving the motivation for the criminalization of male and young female heterosexuality. At this moment, that guy is a better MAP representative for men, and I'm following him now. Will you let him keep that title?
anon69
That video on DiCaprio is indeed encouraging, particularly the comments.
I've noticed as well that there seems to have been a sea change when it comes to the recognition of female jealousy being the main reason for shaming and criminalizing male sexuality.
Then again, feminists aren't even hiding it anymore with their attempts to ban things like sex robots and AI girlfriends on the grounds that 'they threaten real relationships' and so forth. And that recently leaked DHS document that literally spelled it all out was disseminated pretty widely in the manosophere and incel communities.
The time is ripe for a true Male Sexualist movement to emerge now. Forget wimpy MAPs or 'youth rights' or 'pedo rationalism' that's all been tried before. More and more men are taking the green pill and waking up to what feminists are doing and are getting angry.
I've always held that one or two words like 'sexual jealousy' or 'jellyhag' are more powerful than a thousand words of rational argument trying to convince that 14 year olds can consent.
Indeed, sexual jealousy seems to be understandable by the normies.
By the way Eivind, I keep trying to leave very basic comments on that video by 33Secrets, and he keeps deleting them. It's clear to me both in his presentation and his actions that he is a simple grifter, a very low level Andrew Tate, who made this video most likely not expecting all the anti-feminist comments on ageism.
There is an opportunity here for you, since you allow discussion and you're not grifting like this idiot. You should make your own video on DiCaprio since it seems to be a very popular topic. You could even make your own video on this video, and allow for further, real discussion. Simple as.
anon69
Maybe YouTube is deleting them. It is so difficult to have any kind of sensible discussion there. And I am too scared of banning to say almost anything on topic anymore.
The trannies behind the new MAP Union forum are driving these feminist c*nts insane:
https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-map-activist-connected-to-pro-pedophile-group-influencing-academic-research/
Fake victim, con artist, and overall terrible old b*tch Seara Adair, who advocates for normal heterosexual men to be completely destroyed for desiring teenage girls, hates these MAP trannies with a passion.
Which means we should be pro tranny! From a distance of course...
anon69
Well, we can hope that the trannies in the MAP movement might at least influence them into hating feminists, if only the 'TERFs' (or 'MERFs' - Map exclusionary radical feminists?).
I still think it's rather comical the idea that MAPs will ever be able to win 'protected status' under the umbrella of the LBGT movement.
And they seem to be the 'virteous MAP' types, who don't even mention the age of consent. In fact, they explicitly seek to make 'paedophilia' a sexual orientation rather than a disorder, but only if the 'paedophile' does not act on his orientation. And they want child sex dolls legalized, so essentially they are saying that wanking to preteen porn or child sex dolls is natural, but having sex with 17 year old teens is a disorder. Not sure if that fits in with Eivind's 'asexual wanker' views.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240717/uk-soldiers-accused-of-soliciting-sex-in-kenya-after-ban-prompted-by-murder-of-21-year-old-1119395064.html
A perfect example :
- The "underage" argument unrelated with the news item.
- the ever expanding notion of "vulnerability"
- the incompetent feminized politicians always quick to decree a sex ban
- the russian propaganda against the west's total depravity (even though the news item just proves the opposite).
Feminists now openly admitting that it's all about effectively forcing men to have sex with their ugly selves.
https://x.com/LibertyCappy/status/1814329858442354958
One of the comments : "Shaming men into sleeping with women they find unattractive is just rape with extra steps."
Eivind, this page will infuriate you. It's about women "not getting away with crime". Some of the crimes are real crimes but a lot of the cases are victimless sexual crimes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/
Yeah, it is infuriating, but I've come to realize that activism is a skill. It's not about information. Feelings and opinions are skills, as are all qualia. Making moral judgments that differ from what society tells us is a skill, not something which can be imparted by information. The normies can't help themselves no matter what we tell them, if they don't have that skill. The Mary's Room thought experiment and David Lewis's point in "What Experience Teaches" helped me realize this. The normies are in Mary's Room in the sense that they don't have the feeling that the public sexual morality is wrong and most of them can't have that feeling no matter how much information we give them because the feeling is separate from the information and they don't have the whatever it takes to use the information in the way we do -- they don't have the "skill" for lack of a better word. It takes a complicated metaphysical argument to explain how it should be thought of as a skill, so I'll leave that to David Lewis, but I get it now. We sexualist/MAP activists are gifted in a special moral way and that is both a blessing and a curse because such moral discernment can rarely ever be taught, hence the perpetual lack of many other activists. We just have to wait for cultural drift to maybe tell the normies someday that sexuality wasn't so preternaturally evil after all; they don't have the skill to think this on their own or by hearing it from us.
When we MAP activists hear that a minor had sex and consented and enjoyed it, that information feels true to us. We can FEEL it. Not so to the normies, because they are locked into the narrative that minors "can't consent," so the very same information feels false to them. More of the same kind of information is not going to convince them because the difference between them and us does not reside in the information. We both hear the same information, in the female sex offender charade that the boys were enthusiastically willing and proud of it etc. ad nauseam, more of the same every day and it does not make the slightest difference to the normies because it was never about the information, but how that information FEELS. And that feeling is a skill, like color vision is a skill. If you are color blind then no amount of information will make you see those colors, because you simply can't. That's how the normies are with sexual morality. They simply can't feel that the dominant narrative is wrong. Hence it doesn't even really make sense to get exasperated with them.
I guess it's a skill to call out obvious feminist bias and hysteria. Maybe it's just radical honesty, which conmen psychologists like to call "autism".
https://x.com/LibertyCappy/status/1814329858442354958
These MAGA types are so confused. At the same time, they can identify women's jealousy and also deny the existence of a teenage girl's sexuality under 18, slandering other men as pedophiles.
anon69
"Making moral judgments that differ from what society tells us is a skill, not something which can be imparted by information. The normies can't help themselves no matter what we tell them, if they don't have that skill."
Well I absolutely agree with that. So the answer is to continue to be a paedophile rationalist and bang on referencing obtuse academic thought experiments that only philosophy students of the theory of mind will be familiar with?
Or how about waking normies up with emotion and shaming, and anger, as I did, as the incels do?
You used to be very good at that 15 or 20 years ago, when you were getting arrested, or having entire universities create petitions to have you banned. Now it seems your entire approach rests on somebody like Daniel Dennett happening to be one of the handful of readers who come across your blog daily, and being blown away by your arguments on the metaphysics of wanking or the female sex offender charade, then standing up and repeating them at the next philosophy of mind conference, thereby creating your hoped for 'cultural shift'.
Here is a comment of yours a couple of weeks ago :
"Although nothing works, the least bad strategy seems to me to be to point out the intellectual stupidity of it all. What kind of moron would believe 12-year-old girls can't consent and are abused and damaged from consensual sex? "
The fact is that 99% of the population believe that. The principle reason they do so is because tens of thousands of women say they were abused when they were 12, even though the sex was willing. Hundreds of millions more women claim sympathy with this and say there is no way they could have consented at 12.
I don't see what calling people morons (in itself) for believing these women is going to do. Nor appealing to the obvious (to you or us) stupidity of believing in the 'metaphysics of bad sex'. You once said that 'rape is worse than murder for women'. So if a 40 year old woman says she was raped at 12 because she could not consent then, it seems odd to say people are morons to take her at face value. Another approach would be to point out the mindblowingly obvious motivations of women who are in sexual competition with young girls, to lie or even to rationalize to themselves and others that they were 'abused' when their sex at 12 with an older man was entirely willing, and entirely positive.
Another of your comments (paraphrased from memory) - "it can't have much to do with sexual market value, because these women believe in the inherent badness of sex".
This just seems a silly comment. Did that female sex offender you still white knight for, who argued that male paedophiles like you should be tortured to death, and then was caught having sex with a young boy, believe in the 'inherent badness of sex'? What evidence do you have that feminists are not having any sex? You still believe that all this is down to a small coven of maybe 50 feminist witches, rather than the vast majority of women seeking to maximize their sexual value and limit competition. You bizarrely assume, like you did with that female TV presenter, that if a 50 year old woman poses on Instagram in a bikini she'd be 100% OK with men fucking 12 year old girls. It's not just about old hags not getting any sex, and even there most of these hags still have husbands to keep a leash on. Or it's bitterness that they are not getting sex or never did, and they rationalize a hatred of sex. In either case, it's silly to say it has nothing to do with sexual market value, and in any case, the feminists are just leading the wave of millions of ordinary women who are trying to protect their own sexual value.
"These MAGA types are so confused. At the same time, they can identify women's jealousy and also deny the existence of a teenage girl's sexuality under 18, slandering other men as pedophiles."
Yes, it takes a remarkable level of deceit to do that.
The Left has a kind of equivalent to this when they happily point out that a lot of the most rabid 'homophobes' are closet homosexuals (and to be fair, this has been proven time and time again), and yet can't see what's going on when men scream death to peadophiles at other men for being openly attracted to 17 year olds.
Well, it won't be Dan Dennett who helps us out because he recently passed away. Philosophers are just as susceptible to cultural delusions and taboos as other normies. An honorable exception is Stephen Kershnar, the greatest MAP philosopher, but he is almost as ostracized for it as we are. The rest of philosophy avoids the topic or assures us how the supposed unique badness of pedophilia makes it off-limits even to their thought experiments:
https://unherd.com/2023/09/can-paedophilia-ever-be-a-thought-experiment/
Kershnar’s thought experiment is different because it describes a scenario that nearly everyone would intuitively reject as wrong. Still, when you look at his published background reasoning about the supposed permissibility of hypothetical instances of “adult-child sex”, it also involves appealing to intuitions about totally anachronistic scenarios. For instance, he discusses a situation where there exist children who are “precocious and fully grasp the different dimensions of sex like some precocious children can grasp the different dimensions of music and mathematics” (and moreover where, presumably. we could somehow reliably test for this understanding). The relevance to the actual world, where children are not actually precocious in this way and sex is nothing relevantly like mathematics or music, is totally obscure.
So there the moronic normie mind with its complete shutdown of thinking as soon as this subject comes up is on full display in the belief that children can understand advanced mathematics but they can’t possibly understand sex.
The normie mind just shuts down, and I don’t think appealing to rage about female jealousy works better either.
No, I have not said rape is worse than murder. What I have said is it can be worse than the surface violence suggests because of women’s evolved need to be sexually selective. But then that’s complicated by rape being a major female fantasy as well. Also, I said it’s not unreasonable that the crime of rape can subsume murder and be a capital crime when it actually includes murder. That way you don’t have to charge murder or very severe violence separately because the maximum punishment is already provided by the crime of rape. That way it’s not unreasonable for rape to have the possible kind of sentencing that it does -- if it weren’t abused by feminists to include all kinds of lesser cases and regret-rape and statutory as it does now. In the current environment of course I am totally against treating rape as automatically a serious crime and most of what is called rape can't be taken seriously as a crime at all.
"Making moral judgments that differ from what society tells us is a skill, not something which can be imparted by information. The normies can't help themselves no matter what we tell them, if they don't have that skill."
I agree but to be fair, I never really questionned the narrative until I was exposed to MAP talking points though. Even people with that skill might need a little push. It is considered evil to even entertain the idea, even when it comes to thought experiments as you pointed out. So it never crossed my mind to do it until I got to see others do it in a MAP podcast. I found their points really sound and realised that I agreed. That's only from that point that I could see all the flaws in the mainstream antisex narrative.
"We just have to wait for cultural drift to maybe tell the normies someday that sexuality wasn't so preternaturally evil after all; they don't have the skill to think this on their own or by hearing it from us."
What's the point of activism if that's the case?
I might have a sad and unfortunate exemple of how people can change their mind about something that is originally universally taboo: neo-nazis. 15 years ago, identifying as a nazi would have been a social death sentence. I wish it stayed that way but look how fast things changed in the recent years. It's been normalized enough that people can go mask off and shamelessly call themselves a nazi without even losing platform or audience. It's unfortunate that nazis managed to do that, but at least it's proof that something considered very taboo and evil can somehow quickly become normalized, and pretty fast too.
Eivind says it's a victim cult, AF says it's a sex trade union, I add that feminism is fueled by both male and female sexual jealousy, another anon added the globalist agenda of depopulation. We're all correct, and we're all seeing the situation clearly and speaking honestly about the feminist evil and inversion of reality.
It's like what that character from 'The Office' said about cults - you have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLvUTVcYSfw
I just get more and more respect for Anthony Kiedis.
anon69
I've been watching the debacle of supposedly anti-SJW Vox Day arguing that his competitor Neil Gaiman is guilty of feminist fake-rape.
It's a good example of how jealousy causes men to betray their own gender, and that tribalism will cause their followers to rationalize it. True cult behavior.
anon69
"Eivind says it's a victim cult, AF says it's a sex trade union, I add that feminism is fueled by both male and female sexual jealousy, another anon added the globalist agenda of depopulation. We're all correct, and we're all seeing the situation clearly and speaking honestly about the feminist evil and inversion of reality."
Maybe that's true in part. Jack and Amelio have their own theories and equally valid insights to bring to the table too. Even Eivind's paedophile followers have their own theories, quite different to Eivind's.
If there were 100 regular readers and commentators here, no doubt every single one would have their own theory. It was like that when I was blogging. Every reader would offer up their own theory, sometimes not even bothering to read my blog post.
I would say though, as I've said before, we will never even become a proto-movement until we coalesce in our thinking around certain key ideas.
In all the other recent online 'manosophere' movements that have successfully grown and had at least some impact or attention, such as Men's Rights, MGTOW, the red pill movement, and the incel movement, they quickly accepted some key tenents. For example, in the incel movement, EVERYBODY agrees with the basic idea that society hates ugly, sexually unsuccessful men, that a majority of women go for 5% 'Chads', that genetics determine a man's sexual life and "it's over" if he is 5 ft 5 or has an ugly face. BTW, none of these movements has ever have had a 'leader'.
What do we agree on, other than that there the age of consent is too high? (Even there, especially if Eivind succeeds in bringing more MAPs over, there are probably readers who think the age of consent is correct and they just want to be treated by society with sympathy).
We all agree it is normal and healthy for a pubescent man and woman to have sex at any age, and that there is a conspiracy to brutally suppress this fact of nature for a variety of evil feminist reasons related to money, power, and jealousy.
anon69
Not quite a female sex offender charade case, but I don't think this was posted here and it's worth a mention to show the new anti-sex hysteria lows the UK is sinking to. A female primary school teacher banned from teaching (students of any age) because it was discovered she was working as high-class escort and also that she and her partner had attended a swingers party. The judge gave as one of the reasons that she could encourage teenage girls to become sex workers! Some of the Daily Fail reader comments are quite sane for once.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13643515/Primary-school-teacher-posted-pictures-having-sex.html
Meanwhile an ugly aging cunt newly elected female MP has revealed that she was 'groomed and raped' by an older man when she was 15, and wants to warn teen girls off sex. I wonder what her motives could possibly be?? Depopulation agenda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c06k2jz284po
So the child protection racket against teachers has gone well beyond "abuse" into outright prudery. I guess that's the only way it can expand it this point since they covered everything else. Teachers must now also be some kind of saints who can't do legal things in their spare time which the rest of us still can, lest the children be contaminated with sexuality by telepathy or something.
I dream of saner times and present this excellent piece of writing by Brongersma which goes to show it is absolutely possible to not be hysterical about "protecting" children from sex:
https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=123
The famous humanist Erasmus wrote a treatise on sexual pleasure, in the shape of a conversation between a young man and a prostitute, and dedicated it to the six-year-old son of a friend. In my native town of Haarlem, the famous painter and scholar Carel van Mander (who died in 1606) taught his pupils, 12-year-old boys, to have sex in order to avoid headaches and to better concentrate on their studies.
And in England, at the same time, 13-year-old Elisabeth Ramsbotham complained officially about the fact that her 11-year-old husband John Bridge had not yet deflowered her.
The idea that sex, with a friend of the same age or with an older person, in itself could harm a child was as absent in European culture as it is still absent today – according to ethnologists – in many other cultures. Penal law was therefore silent on this matter. Children were, on equal footing with adults, protected against rape, violence, and abuse of authority, but never against sex as such.
My emphasis in bold there is what we should get back to and all agree on in this movement.
Also I guess I should emphasize that if we draw a line at puberty then we have partly bought into the hysteria because that was not a cultural dogma in the relatively recent past which Brongersma describes here. And it makes no sense. Children need to be protected from abuse, not sex itself, at any age. Being prepubescent does not entail a tendency to be traumatized by sexuality itself just because it is sexuality like the retarded normie belief now goes. That notion is absurd when you think about it honestly and does not fit personal experience for me at all. There is simply no inherent harm in sexuality just because it is sexuality. That entire notion is complete bullshit -- the metaphysical badness of sexuality as I have called it and found no evidence for in any of my extensive studies much like James Cantor admitted too because there is no scientific or rational basis for it.
The evil certainly flows from the feminist sex trade union. It is definitely the driver of the sex hysteria cult and the abuse industry profiteering, which both contribute to depopulation and the people in favor of that agenda.
We MUST talk more about the "men" supporting the feminist sex trade union agenda, because without them, none of this oppression is possible. It was "men" that allowed all of this to happen, and it is "men" that enforce it. The pedocrites. The tyrants and traitors who choose to criminalize their own desires to try and take advantage of the power of feminism, now that women have political power.
Here is one such example:
https://x.com/Nick56412479/status/1815354666605285639
We need to shame "men" like this, worse than hags. Women are expected to act in their own interests according to sex trade union theory, at least they have an excuse. But these "men"? They are the worst scum of the Earth. They are pedocrite traitors who make life miserable for everyone and enable feminist brutality. In my opinion, they should be killed.
And if you didn't think "conservative christian" Florida was the worst place on Earth for feminism, check this out - even the (white) hookers in Florida call you a groomer for wanting a younger hooker!
https://x.com/reneequinnxxx/status/1815830251433332978
anon69
I'm not sure what the effective difference is between female jealousy and a female sexual trade union-kind of seems much of a muchness to me.
Here's a couple of snippets from the tubeosphere.
First, this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se8IVTdXDWw. At one point early on he talks about dating a "21-yo, 18yo, whatever" age woman. Dare one ask what the "whatever" is? He was counting down, not up, so it would appear that the Overton Window is beginning to change.
The other one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjQiIsNBVc, makes me think " methinks thou dost protest too much." He's into dream analysis/shamanism and he was relating a dream in which a 16yo girl appeared to him. To me, he is a bit too keen to state that the dream had no sexual content. It's not that his unconscious is under any obligation to be sexual with a 16yo girl-it can do whatever it wants- but it would have been good if his conscious were a little less uptight about it. Later in the video he describes her as a "little girl"-like you could knock the 1 off her age and she would be virtually the same. He likes to call some people pathetic idiots and usually I agree with him, but here it's he who is a pathetic idiot.
-Anonymous 2
These guys are truly some of our anti-feminist heroes, especially anti-right wing feminism that is so popular right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nT_rMearSc&t=364s
anon69
@AF
Yes, it is a depopulation agenda, they want to exterminate the European and white peoples and replace them with non-whites as cheap labor without identity, culture, community, etc.
Have you seen the presentation of the Olympic Games? Other pro-abortion, feminist, multicultural, LGBT propaganda, etc. In the most pagan fashion, they made some statues, even of Simone de Beauvoir, the feminist pedophile (according to their standards) who banged her underage teenage students. But seems it is "good pedophilia", which is not even called pedophilia, for them what she did does not really exist, because they never talk about it.
A take: They don't hate "pedophilia" or the sexualization of children, in fact there were several drag kids at that inauguration, what they hate is the MAN, when it is the man who likes a child or a teenager, or something that seems like it, THAT'S when it's bad and they hate it, what women and LGBT people do is not pedophilia, a lesbian with a 17 year old girl is not pedophilia is "love is love", your a "pedo" if you are a man.
There is such a level of crazy feminists (normally of teen age) that for them it is even pedophilia if it is a middle-age woman and a 17 or 18 year old girl and they go around denouncing it publicly and actively (in his LGTB related things), this is like the new Islamist generations, even more fanatic than their parents and indoctrinators.
In short, to them all procreative sex should be abhorred, they really hate heterosexuality, if heterosexuality exists it should be as non-procreative as possible, and above all they should promote abortion, LGBT and all non-procreative sexuality to exterminate white people.
And if any of you see them in reddit or youtube e.g. screaming against "pedos" and "anime loli pedo shit" etc. it is because they either see it as something of straight men (about young females) or it is somehow procreative or normative in men. Feminists, if they could, would defend pedophilia only to destroy Western civilization and 5,000 years of history. They are a bunch of jealous old hags, yes, and at the same time, useful agents of globalism.
@anon69
When did you miss chapter 1 of how pedohysteria is promoted equally by envious feminist hags and controlling parents?
He's not going to say: "Don't fuck my 19 year old daughter, because she's mine." And who says 19, says 17, 16 etc.
I once went to a forum and these pathetic beings came out, along with a group of women (yes, those of "not feminists, but real women") lol
And one of those beings said that the like: "woke left wants to sexualize under 18s with abortion, they're just kids, leave them alone."
Another one said that his 19 year old daughter was his and he had to "protect" her to predators blah blah blah, and that if we liked them when they were under 18 we had to get beaten up.
"Have you seen the presentation of the Olympic Games? Other pro-abortion, feminist, multicultural, LGBT propaganda, etc."
"They don't hate "pedophilia" or the sexualization of children, in fact there were several drag kids at that inauguration, what they hate is the MAN"
France (aka the West) has lost its f*cking mind.
Turning Paris into a filthy poor immigrant sh*thole is no problem, but HOW DARE MEN TRY TO GET LAID during the Olympics; we will form a special police brigade to stop this!
https://www.marca.com/en/olympic-games/2024/07/26/66a3887422601d08088b457d.html
anon69
Can the UK abuse industry expand even further? Oh, yes it can! Here's the way forward...
https://www.change.org/p/david-gauke-stop-rapists-from-accessing-children-conceived-through-rape
Make it possible to accuse rape before you were born!
My name is Sammy Woodhouse. I was a victim of emotional and sexual abuse as a child, as part of the Rotherham abuse scandal. I decided to speak out to help expose what was happening to me and 1400 others children who were abused and failed.
After rebuilding my life, I was made to relive the trauma again last year when the courts said my abuser Hussain could seek visits with my son.
Just two years ago Hussain was found guilty of 23 child sex offences and is currently serving a 35 years prison. How could the courts not see he is a danger to me and my child? I can’t bear to think of him near our family.
That’s why I’m calling for a change in the law, a simple amendment to the Children’s Act 1989 that would ban any male with a child conceived by rape from applying for access/rights.
Re: Anon69 and Feldmarshal's comments, I have the same or similar thoughts.
People are wrong about Steven and de Velde- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13680909/steven-van-velde-partner-defends-dutch-child-rapist.html.
He isn't a rapist, but he is a murderer (in result if not in intent) in providing the abortifacient morning-after pill to his pregnant girlfriend. It's good that he wasn't a normie about age of consent but tragic that he also apparently didn't think through about when life begins (fertilization).
He probably isn't a bad person, just someone who has not been exposed to this fact to the extent to which he has given it serious attention.
-Anonymous 2
Steven van de Velde is competing in the 2024 olympics in Paris and he is previously convicted and sentenced for child "rape" of a 12 year old english slut.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_van_de_Velde
We finally got a riot in support of accused sex offenders... But unfortunately they are a truly abhorrent kind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qxSGBggbO4
Israelis are rioting in support of sexual torture of Palestinians.
It's a crazy topsy-turvy world. This people will care about, and even break into the prison to free them, while we can't even get a handful people to protest in favor of friendly MAPs.
For me this is already nonsense, society has accommodated itself to this shit, feminism has infected society irreversibly, in fact, where do feminists begin and end? If feminism were to end, would they still be paedohysterics, it is no longer a consequence of an ideology, it is one of the bases of society, that is why the "anti-feminists" are as paedohysterics as anyone else, the only ones a little awake are the incels, and they have practically already succumbed to paedohysteria.
Let's get this over with, let's be serious, there will never be any male sexualism movement, nor will the " old true MRA" return, nor any type of masculinism (and if there were any, it would be another paedohysterical and agecuck shit). And nobody is going to defend sexual offenders and "pedophiles" real or not.
People, normal straight men, don't want this: let's accept it, and try something else.. But this whole "anti-feminist" masculinist thing DOESN'T work.
You are right, Feldmarshall. There is virtually no hope that our activism will gain enough momentum to be influential, because men simply don't care. They don't care about sexual freedom as a thing in itself; only at best as a side issue to some other ideology or religion they care about. And backing a more favorable religion such as perhaps Islam can only help us marginally because it comes with som much other baggage that the overall benefit is slim to none.
Nonetheless I remain a sexualist/MAP activist because it is the right thing to do. I don't think we will succeed, but at least I did my part.
"People, normal straight men, don't want this: let's accept it, and try something else.. But this whole "anti-feminist" masculinist thing DOESN'T work. "
Well, as you say, people wont defend paedophiles, imagined or otherwise, so nothing will work.
The reason why I'm a proud anti-feminist, and will be to the day I die, futile or not, is because it is feminsts who are primarily doing this to us, even if the latest theory here is that they are being controlled like puppets by electro-magnetic shapeshiffters hiding on the dark side of the moon. I'd rather go to my grave still spitting at the medusas, even if it wont change anything, than being the kind of paedophile rationalist who hasn't gotten anywhere in 70 years (even in the 1960's and 70's), still parroting the same 'free the teens' bullshit, and who still thinks that society (even, especially feminists!) will start to treat them sympathetically because it's surely 'progress' to treat all minorities fairly.
I'd compare it to the Jewish Warsaw uprising. They knew they didn't have a chance, but it was the last chance to show the world that at least some Jews went out fighting with dignity, not like meek little lambs to the slaughter. Perhaps there were a few in that ghetto wailing that there was no point, that fighting Nazis doesn't work, so time to try something else, and it wasn't even really the NAZIs who were to blame anyway and definitely not the Germans, just some nebulous 'cultural drift' into anti-semitism.
You are right - it's the incels who have woken up the most, and they are very anti-feminist, and they (the non age-cucked paedocrite ones) can see it's all about the sexual market place.
It's difficult or impossible to make inroads with influential online activists, left or right, because they are afraid of losing status among their peers, and of course of having their accounts banned. In largely anonymous incel forums, these ideas are much easier to spread.
Better to give up the idea that anything will 'work' as in change anything in our lifetimes, ,and just see any effort at building a movement as an attempt at understanding the problem, and presenting some dignity to the world. But we'll never get anywhere if we keep throwing our hands up in the air every couple of years and 'try something else', or even worse just revert back to MAP style paedo rationalism. MAPs neither 'understand the problem', nor do they present any dignity to the world.
Huw Edwards the leading news presenter in the UK has been convicted of 'making 53 indecent photos of children' and faces 10 years in prison.
Yet, when you look closely at the details :
He did not 'make' any images, he simply received images on WhatsApp, and did not delete (perhaps forgot?) all of them.
He even asked the individual not to send him any illegal images. He received hundreds of sexual images, but only a small percentage were illegal.
The police obviously searched all his devices, and found nothing else other than this one WhatsApp conversation.
And now his life is over, he is universally branded a paedophile child abuser who makes kiddy porn, and he faces 10 years of life inside a vulnerable prisoners wing.
@AF
I'm not saying that it's not the fault of feminists, but eliminating feminism and feminists is irrelevant to the attraction to teenage girls, because it has become culturally fused with society, and it's not something ideological, but rather part of the fundamental ethos of society. Indeed, the prejudice with the attraction to young women and the age difference can be eradicated quite a bit, so it is still an ideological construction (that's why the alternative right now defends the DiCaprio thing), but when those young people are minors it's another thing.
I've said it a thousand times but I'm going to say it more clearly for the last time: society considers that a minor is a legal child, and it's the same as a child, therefore it's pedophilia and child rape, whether they're 7 or 17. At 18 they're adults and therefore it's okay as long as it's not an envious woman or a controlling father, like 50, 100 or 1000 years ago.
You want minors under 18 to be considered children for everything except being able to fuck them while you're an adult. Think about it. That's ridiculous.
Before the age of majority was staggered, now it's not, that's why you can't see 16 year old girls naked in magazines, before they were ADULTS FOR THAT, no more. Now it's 18 for everything. It's not like it was okay to fuck minors before.
And it's true, the "progressives" want them to be able to abort and vote at 16, so what I'm saying is nonsense? The modern progressive left has never had logic, they are social mentally disturbed, a type of delusion, they believe in what suits their ideas even if it is something against reality, like believing that a man with a beard is a woman, they are just crazy.
How do they want to do with trans, now the idea that a minor is a child is part of the ethos of society, in their delusion we are all correctly pedophiles who want children sexually, if you understand their delusion, it is even logical!
So I don't know if I am not explaining myself well or you don't want to understand me.
Look at Dr. Robert Lynday, even the "normal straight man" most awake with paedohysteria says that AoC at 17 is fine or that sometimes those who like pubescent girls seem paraphilic to him. Is this the maximum that can be reached? This should be the minimum of the minimum, the most paedohysteric, that this is the maximum that can be reached after us is catastrophic..
And MAP rationalism doesn't work? You may be right, but men's rights work even less, nobody follows those ideas except 4 blogs/youtube channels on the internet and 3 are pedohysterics. Seriously, does anyone know anything about "men's rights" other than AF, Eivind and the blog list (half of which are inactive) on the right of this site?
I don't think that people who knew you would consider you a pedophile, just a reactionary and rancid misogynist, out of date, if you add "white" to a straight man, you already have the neo-Nazi package. And I'm not suspected of being a woke feminist leftist, but you have to admit, it's just that this is the year 2024, I don't know what year you are, but this is not Victorian England and our enemies are no longer the suffragettes, those bitches won, so let's move on, now they're something worse.
This is how you sound: "Feminists and middle-aged women are jealous bitches and they hate me for being a normal straight man and wanting to fuck young girls, what you consider immature children, help me so I can fuck them", if this is you, you're screwed, what you say, maybe and only maybe, would have worked in East London in 1875, in 2024 it's not going to work, believe me. You're fucking right, don't get me wrong, but it's not going to work, we've made progress, for better or worse.
I detect a willingness even among many mainstream MRA's to defend age gaps down to 18-20 in the last few months. That is considerable progress IMHO.
One must take what one can get in life. Think back to maybe a year ago when the same people barely dared to defend a man in a relationship with a 25-y-o.
If I'm not mistaken, Eivind stated a few posts back that if we only view puberty as an acceptable age limit, we have already partly fallen for the modern day mentality. I agree. Most men are mostly not interested in pre-pubescent girls and from that perspective the problem takes care of itself.
In nay case, if people became cool with old geezers going out with 18-y-o's but remained rabid about under-18, I'd be rubbing my hands with glee because it would mean we would have the initiative and the only way would be down, way down, sooner or later.
-Anonymous 2
Huw Edwards pled guilty to "making indecent images of children"...
One would think that even if he had no other fight in him he could resist the idea that he "made" those images when he just inadvertently received them.
If I download "Hamlet" have I written it and deserve credit for being so clever? Everyone can see that's absurd. But with sex and children (or older teens in this case) there is only complete credulity to any absurd dysphemism and perversion of the truth which goes to demonize "abusers," even by the hunted men themselves. Thus the normies will plead guilty to these bizarre "crimes" and all of society will appear in lockstep agreement that the superstition of child sexual abuse including the informational voodoo is unquestionable truth. There is truly no hope because even when men lose everything they usually don't have one iota of fight in them, even to point out how absurd it is.
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — A slew of Louisiana legislation, including a first-of-its-kind law that allows judges to impose the punishment of surgical castration for offenders guilty of certain sex crimes against children, went into effect Thursday.
Similar to a handful of other states — including California, Florida and Texas — for more than 15 years Louisiana has had a law in place allowing judges to impose the punishment of chemical castration for rapists who prey on children.
However, Louisiana is now the first state that will give judges the option to sentence someone to surgical castration after the person has been convicted of certain aggravated sex crimes — including rape, incest and molestation — against a child under 13.
Chemical castration uses medications that block testosterone production to decrease sex drive. Surgical castration is a much more invasive procedure that involves the removal of both testicles or ovaries. It is used in other countries that are known for harsher criminal sanctions, including the Czech Republic and Nigeria.
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molestation definition: "the crime of sexual acts with children up to the age of 18, including touching of private parts, exposure of genitalia, taking of pornographic pictures, rape, inducement of sexual acts with the molester or with other children and variations of these acts by pedophiles."
It will be interesting to see if human rights organizations have the balls to draw attention to the fact that lawmakers, regardless of how many people have ticked their name on a ballot paper, do not own citizen's bodies.
Society has decreed that until you are 18 you are a child, and normal heterosexual men do not like children, in fact they beat those who like children. But in some way we are normal straight men because a some around here wants it according to his interests or its phobias.
When a man is accused of touching a 15-year-old girl's ass, what normal heterosexual men do is give him a good beating, and yes, thanks to feminism, they can falsely accuse you, without feminism the difference is that they give you the same beating, but less hysterical. The best case for you is that they screw the girl because "she was dressed like a whore."
And no one out of here defends rapists, child, real o "statutary", not even going to defend them, the majority defends killing them directly because are considered dangeous scum. That's why they make those laws.
I don't care if liking teenage girls is being a normal straight man and it's all feminism's fault, I'm not interested in this shit and especially in normal straight men, I'd rather be dead than be part of that garbage. No, I'm not a normal straight man. If anyone is intelligent, go to the MAP movement and get out of this Red pill/Mens Right/Incel outdated nonsense.
I'm going to stop writing here, it's a waste of time.
Well look, we know a few things with complete certainty; each group has its own good reason for supporting the feminist rape hoax hysteria - parents want more control with less accountability, jealous men and women want others to fail, the government and the abuse industry want censorship, money and power (look at KOSA and Tiktok laws). Again, it comes down to the indifference and willingness of cowardly, allegedly heterosexual men to officially implement this hoax. But also, if you speak with them in private or watch their behavior patterns, they are majority pedocrites.
Which brings us to an interesting situation. We know the vast majority of men are preferentially attracted to girls under 18, yet they choose to criminalize their own desires for the sake of aspiring to some of that feminist tyrant power. Peak male attraction to girls under 18 is as normal and good as drinking water when you're thirsty.
The question becomes if most "normal straight men" decide to lie and say they don't like drinking when they are thirsty because it's abnormal and evil, while they in fact drink when they are thirsty in private, is the best line of attack to form a group that says drinking when you're thirsty is abnormal and evil but we want to do it anyway?
Or is the alternative better - everyone drinks when they're thirsty and it's good, shut the f*ck up.
And what if the campaign demonizing drinking when thirsty is run by corporations who don't want employees wasting so much company time at the water cooler? Then, you'd say everyone drinks when they're thirsty and it's good, you have a selfish, petty agenda to squeeze every last dime out of your employees, f*ck you and shut the f*ck up.
So, to male and female feminists - men want sex with girls under 18 and it's good, you have a selfish, petty agenda to control, censor, and profit, f*ck you and shut the f*ck up. Would MAPS support this position?
anon69
I know of no other persecuted group in history who would meekly accept their oppressor's label of themselves, other than MAPs.
The MAP's whole project is based on petitioning society to accept them as deviants, whilst also getting them to accept that not all MAPs will act upon their deviancy and hurt 'minors'.
The more ambitious MAPs seek inclusion under the progressive LBGT+pqxyz banner, and perhaps even many of the 'virtuous MAPs' see that as the end stage.
They see that the 'trans lobby' has managed to do this in the space of 2 or 3 decades.
Yet the achievement of the trans rights groups is that they have convinced society that if a man says he is a woman, then he is a woman. MAPs running the trans movement would say that trans people are different, and their sexuality lies in identifying as a woman (which is actually and obviously the truth). They would deny that a trans woman is a normal woman. They would essentially be a rights group for transvestites, seeking to have transvestism recognized as a sexual orientation.
But trans people says that a trans woman is no different at all to a biological woman, and that's why they get so aggressive in the matter of pronouns, or the right to compete in women's sports or use women's rest rooms.
And the MAPs fail to recognize and aspire to the aggressive approach of the trans activists. Tranny activists give hell to 'TERFs' (trans exclusionary radical feminists). MAPs don't have a word for 'map exclusionary radical feminists'. They just meekly convince each other that such feminists are not 'real feminists', and most feminists would really like to let 40 year old men calling themselves MAPs fuck 12 year old girls.
Katie Hopkins, one of the leading British 'alt-right' figures, has been busy calling Huw Edwards a paedophile and disgusting nonce, mainly because a leading Guardian journalist defended him last year.
And yet she was one of the lone voices of reason during the Jimmy Savile and Operation Yewtree hysteria.
Just confirms what I was saying before. These people have to join in and become party to paedohysteria, because paedohysteria is so emeshed in political discourse of all sides. Otherwise, they would lose status and their followers. And both left and right are in a battle to see who can label the other as 'pedos' the most effectively.
Well it's heartening to see civil war apparently breaking out on the streets of Britain. I can't help rooting for the British patriots, even though they are largely pedo hating scum.
I mean, they are being replaced by Third World immigrants, and they've finally shown that they have a bit of fight in them.
Unlike the MAPs.
But it will be fun to watch from a distance.
I need to correct a number of misconceptions in this by the AF:
"The MAP's whole project is based on petitioning society to accept them as deviants, whilst also getting them to accept that not all MAPs will act upon their deviancy and hurt 'minors'."
This is only something an anti-contact MAP might promote. I have no affiliation with them. The MAP movement I represent does not believe MAPs hurt minors by acting on their desires. With regard to teens we also recognize that attraction is normative for the normies too even if they won't admit it in public these days. Exclusive attraction to younger children is admittedly statistically deviant but we seek to remove the diagnosis and have it recognized as a legitimate minority.
MAPs do not want to hurt children unless they have something else wrong with them which has nothing to do with the attraction itself, such as an unwillingness to respect consent, and that sort of misbehavior is at least as common among men who go for adult women as far as I can tell. Hence it is a hateful mistake to equate minor-attraction with wanting to hurt children.
Of course we who like teens also don't have any risk that "acting upon our deviancy will hurt minors" and it is preposterous to entertain that sort of rhetorics. You should know better at this point.
MAP is a political label for us even though our sexuality is in fact identical to that of the pedocrites who pretend to be different, and I proudly wear that label along with its synonym "pedophile" in current usage. This is how we fight; not by trying to please them as you in effect want to do.
@AF
You liked a f*cking Nazi like Katie Hopkins who hate and advocate discrimination of millions of people only when she was telling you whatever you wanted to hear about Jimmy, now the f*cking Nazi says that being a "paedo" and a "nonce" is very bad and you don't like her anymore. LOL
@Anonymous - None of your comments ever even make sense.
1/ I didn't I say I dislike her now. In fact, I stated that I'm still on the side of the British patriots. I was making a point in relation to a recent discussion as to why MRAs and such wont raise age of consent issues, or are even actively hostile to them.
2/ You appear to be 'accusing me' of thinking that the age of consent and paedohysteria are bigger issues than Katie Hopkins right-wing views. Yet I just said I support the British patriots over the Muslims. If I dislike her it's because she's flipflopped on paedohysteria. She knows that it is largely mindless hysteria, but she's flipped because it gets her more status among her followers. Katie Hopkins is a 'racist' in your eyes, but why do I give a fuck about that? I'm not a leftie, and don't see what being a leftie has to do with our issues, other than the pathetic belief among MAPs that the Left will eventually include them in the LBGT protected 'sexual minority' list. BTW, one reason paedohysteria is so rampant among the white working class is because of their poor education levels, haven been abandoned by successive governments who can't wait to replace them with even lower IQ immigrants.
I suport the indigineous people rising up against the globalist plan to replace them with Third World immigrants. Just as I support Israel against Palestine, even if it is true that currently Israel is way more paedohysteric than Gaza, the West Bank, or in Islam generally.
I'm glad the Victorians didn't swamp England with African and Arab immigrants, even if the newcomers might have had more relaxed views on the age of consent. I doubt if we would ever have experienced the sexual golden age of the 60's or 70's if they had.
None of your comments make sense. I would assume that Eivind and several other commentators her e think the age of consent question is bigger than other issues, so you're insulting them too, again, just as you insult them when you accuse me of being an 'ephebophile' for liking teenage girls (because you're angry I don't believe in the ephebophile identity??).
MAP is a political label for us even though our sexuality is in fact identical to that of the pedocrites who pretend to be different, and I proudly wear that label along with its synonym "pedophile" in current usage. This is how we fight; not by trying to please them as you in effect want to do."
I doubt if there is a single normie in the entire world who understand a 'MAP' as meaning somebody who thinks that attraction to teens is normal, but who is identifying as a MAP for 'political reasons'. The very use of the term MAP, implies that being a 'minor attracted person' is a sexual minority, to any casual or independent observer. I'm pretty sure you're projecting your own interpretation on the MAP movement, but even if what you say is true, the MAPs are doing an awful job of making clear what their intent is.
No, I'm not pleasing feminists by refusing to accept a label that goes beyond what even they have fully managed to do yet (at least in Europe), which is convince society that even attraction to 17 year old girls is paedophilia and a perversion.
@AF
I'm not a red woke soviet transgender progressive leftist as you would like, I'm just a morally decent man who can even be criticize globalism and uncontrolled immigration, but who doesn't dedicate himself to hating millions of people for being women, fat, another country or any other shitty excuse to justify my supremacy. But when they hate you for being a "paedo" and "nonce" (that is, for not being like them, but different) you come to your old blog or here to complain and say that it's the end of humanity, no less.
I thought you had a minimum of human decency and that at least, with all your faults and nonsense, you were not a defender and friend of disciples of the Nazi regime, ethnic and religious supremacists, genocidal, rapists and the worst, murderers of prepubescent children and surprise !!!!! teenage girls.
By the way, friend of a society that considers that marrying a 17-year-old girl is an "aberration against civilization" and that is why they raised the age to... 18 lol... what a difference a year makes!! and then the only bastion of democracy and civilization in the Middle East indiscriminately bomb houses and hospitals full of children, remove dozens of murdered corpses with a bulldozer as if they were garbage bags and talk about how "they are the chosen people of God" and can conquer all of Palestine.
But there is a terrorist group that hates them and has attacked them, fueled by decades of criminal Nazi regime, so their ethnic cleansing, rapes and torture are already justified.
Oh, and that way millions of blacks, browns, Indians and other subhuman trash don't come to our beloved and benevolent British Empire, which has never invaded and colonized anyone.
We are getting off topic. I think supporting Israel is the dumbest thing in the world, but I also don't care at all about that entire situation.
" But trans people says that a trans woman is no different at all to a biological woman, and that's why they get so aggressive in the matter of pronouns, or the right to compete in women's sports or use women's rest rooms. "
This is a great point. Trans women don't say they are in a special category, they say they are women, period. MAPS say they are in a special category, that they are not normal.
" MAP is a political label for us even though our sexuality is in fact identical to that of the pedocrites who pretend to be different "
I'm not sure how true this is, but it is true that this interpretation would put the strength of the argument on the same level as the trannies. However, trannies are a preferred group empowered by feminist organizations who control society, and "most feminists would [not] really like to let 40 year old men calling themselves MAPs fuck 12 year old girls.."
"I'm pretty sure you're projecting your own interpretation on the MAP movement, but even if what you say is true, the MAPs are doing an awful job of making clear what their intent is. MAPs don't have a word for 'map exclusionary radical feminists'."
Eivind, I think you just found your niche in the MAP movement. Why don't you add the term "MERFS" to a Newgon page and add your comments how heterosexual MAP men have the same sexual desires as normal heterosexual men? That could actually be useful.
anon69
Sexual jealousy on full display here-https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g8E2hOxunoU. She has a very pretty face but doesn't seem to realize how envious she is, not to mention unoriginal.
Also, I still don't get what Huw Edwards did to deserve a ten year sentence. I read an article about it in the Fail and it was clear as mud. I presume the term "making" as in he made the images, is some sort of legal terminology since it has no bearing on the normal meaning of the word.
-Anonymous 2
@Anonymous 2
Even in that stupid video they only know how to promote their paranoid obsessions like gay rights, abortion or gender identity, while they criticize your right to only fuck young girls.. so they only enjoy screwing the life of straight men, they are trash incapable of creating anything, they only destroy and corrupt the world, and the global progressive left are useful idiots of this human trash.
These envious hags attack us because we are straight men. They are pissed off that we prefer teenage girls or younger women to them. Period. And they defend abortion, gay rights and gender identity in order to destroy modern civilization created by STRAIGHT MEN, and thereby kill us or enslave us. Stop arguing and wasting time.
"But when they hate you for being a "paedo" and "nonce" (that is, for not being like them, but different) you come to your old blog or here to complain and say that it's the end of humanity, no less."
I honestly don't know what on Earth you're talking about when you say things like this. Honestly, I just can't make sense of what you're trying to communicate.
I read the next sentence about Israeli Nazis, but not the rest as there is really no point trying to discuss with somebody who makes no sense to me. I'm not being funny or anything, I just honestly can't work out what you're saying most of the time.
As far as Israel is concerned, it's true my feelings are probably personal bias. I'll be honest, I hate Muslims (in general), and the reason for that is, I've had so many countless bad experiences with them. For example, when my mother was about to die in hospital, I got a phone call to tell me, so I chased after a bus to be there with her and hold her hand, and jumped on just in time. The clearly Muslim driver deliberately slowed down to a crawl, even though the road was clear. When it stopped at the hospital and I jumped off, he looked at me with an evil grin on his face. He probably had an idea as to why I was racing to the hospital.
That's just one incident, but I've had countless like that. It's pattern recognition. And just as I can see the elephant in the room regarding teen girls and such like, I can also see the elephant in the room regarding the importation of millions of hostile young Muslim and African men into Europe.
On the other hand, I almost universally have nice experiences with Jewish people and Israelis.
Yes, it's awful the fact that so many children are dying in Gaza. But don't pretend for a moment that Arabs wouldn't be doing the same to Israelis if they had the power. They wouldn't have stopped at killing 1,200, raping and murdering countless teenage girls on October 7th, if they hadn't been stopped. Israel are not deliberately killing teenage girls, but Hamas certainly did, and Islamists do it nearly every single day. Jews are in Israel because they've been persecuted the hell out of by normies for 2,000 years. Sound familar? I wish we had a land we could escape too, that we once owened, and which we would defend to the death through all means possible forever more.
Would I rather live in Israel or most Muslim countries, despite the paedohysteria and feminism in Israel (like any Western country)? Yes, I probably would. I'd rather still have the chance of having casual sex with 16 year old hotties (and Jewish babes are the prettiest in the world), rather than having to marry my inbred cousin to have any pussy.
I see a lot of Israeli tourists, and when the pretty teen girls see me checking them out, they almost always brush their hair and look pleased. Same can't be said for the Muslim girls in their hijabs.
Btw, I was in Stuttgart recently, and I was stood at a tram stop, with a group of Turkish girls sitting nearby, aged maybe 15 or 16. A quite handsome tall German guy of about 25, politely asked them whether the next tram went to his destination, and they immediately got up and ran away from him, giggling that he was a paedophile.
As I've always said as part of Sexual Trade Union theory, Muslim countries don't have feminism, because they have no need of it. Again, I challenge any of you who think Muslim countries are sexual utopias for men, why you don't go and live in one. Or answer why millions of horny young Muslim men flock to the West in order to experience a greater level of sexual freedom?
But as far as Israel is concerned, yes, it's largely irrelevant and off-topic.
@Kaiser-FYI I didn't try to comment under that video because y/tube doesn't let me post comments anymore.
If they still did so, I might put something to stir her and her fans up, without expending a lot of energy.
I linked to it in order to inform others here about it.
-Anonymous 2
Now Elon Musk is at loggerheads with the UK government for saying "civil war is inevitable in Britain".
Interestingly Musk is at war with wokeism:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2024/07/22/elon-musk-jordan-peterson-interview/74506785007/
He may not be an ally in our fight against pedohysteria (who is?) but he's still the closest of a "sort of ally" among the big guys out there.
Elon Musk is all about antisex hysteria, unfortunately. At the same time that the UK is imprisoning men for 400 years for historical "grooming" on a daily basis...
https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/sentences-almost-400-years-non-recent-sexual-abuse-kirklees
The "far right" imagine that they are rioting because the government is too lenient on sex crimes, especially by immigrants but they want the same laws to apply to all. The whole situation is surreal and won't be any help for us. On the contrary it will only lead to more draconian laws on both sex and speech and the protesters will be hunted like it's 1984 on steroids. Keir Starmer is revolting, to be sure, but the opposition is only playing into his agenda to shut down any kind of dissent whatsoever by the ultimate police state. This will be the last protest that can happen without everyone being arrested just for thinking about it.
The far right -- a silly word I know, but I don't know what else to call them -- are not going to be satisfied until we deport all the Muslims. Since that's never going to happen, they double down on the pedohysteria because that's something which actually works to some extent when the government is on board with locking up all the "grooming gangs." They will never care that we are all nonces by the same definitions as long as they can remove some Muslims from society, which is never enough of course even when a few of them now get 400 years. I guess we can still say that Elon Musk and the rest of the far right are our "closest" sort of ally, but that is really stretching the meaning of ally because I have a hard time seeing anything I have in common with them besides ethnicity.
"Agony for mother of teen killed in machete attack after learning one of his killers will be released after just SIX MONTHS due to prison overcrowding under new Labour scheme (DM)
They have to make room for those horrible historic groomers !
We live in a sick society that says that a 17-year-old boy or girl is an sexual immature child and is grooming and pedophilia, but at the same time the 17-year-old UK stabber deserves the death penalty and is responsible because he is a monster and "no longer a child".
Where a guy condemns hatred towards homosexuals and sexual minorities and literally ten seconds later calls a other fellow man sick and perv for admitting his attraction to teenage girls.
Where (especially feminists and progressives) celebrate that "women" of 16 can have an abortion without even notifying their parents and then can immediately shout "pedophilia!!!", " child predator", and "is just a kid!!!" if a man of 30 looks at a girl of 17, even 18 or 19.
That they promote that drags go to primary schools and that preteen kids with do ultrasexualized drag shows dressed like prostitutes, and then they ask for a famous guy's head for sending a online dirty joke to a 13-year-old when he was 18 like the trans friend of Mr- Beast.
I know we mostly just write depressing things and frustrations... but... We're screwed if we think we can do anything about misandrist feminists, controlling parents and functional illiterates celebrities like Mr. Beast who have to virtue signal every 3 minutes so they don't get accused of being "pedos", whatever that shit means.
Eivind Berge
India may well have earned the title of most hateful feminist country with this new law which introduces the concept of "promise to marry" rape, or criminalizing breakups if you prefer to look at it that way:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/10/india/india-marriage-break-up-new-law-intl-hnk/index.html
Men who deceitfully break off promises of marriage after having sex with a woman could face up to 10 years in prison, as Indian law grapples with a widespread but often ignored form of sexual abuse.
But the new law has also provoked questions about how it will be applied, whether it can effectively protect women from sexual exploitation and whether it risks criminalizing break-ups.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government introduced a new criminal code in early July, replacing India’s 164-year-old colonial-era penal code.
Section 69 of the new statute criminalizes having sex with a woman “by making a promise to marry (her) without any intention of” doing so, or by “deceitful means” such as falsely promising career advancement or marrying under a fake identity.
The crime is punishable by up to 10 years’ imprisonment and a fine.
"The Home Office currently lists several categories of extremism, including Islamist, extreme right-wing, animal rights, environmental, and Northern Ireland-related, as areas of concern. The list also includes an online subculture called “incel,” short for “involuntarily celibate.” This refers to a misogynistic worldview promoted by men who blame women for men’s lack of romantic prospects."
It would be easy to never set foot in what GB has become, of course. But we can be certain that this type of laws is going to spread everywhere in the West.
Check this out, one of the first very public examples of the USA losing its leaders to Russia because of bullsh*t feminist oppression by the government. Real leaders and real men won't endure the abuse, they will exit the country and support the opposition. These men will leave behind the lesser simps and homosexuals who acquiesce to their slavery - aka - the future of the USA.
Wilmer Puello-Mota is a capable army veteran and Boston city councilman, who was discovered by the feminist pig police to have nudes sent to him by his 17 year old girlfriend, and thus persecuted with fake feminist "child pornography" charges and "sex offender" registration by the US government.
Well, he left before they could catch him, and now kicks the ass of the US proxy state Ukraine alongside Russian military forces. DEM GOV AND MEDIA HOES REAL MAD
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/08/20/us-veteran-russia-drone-video/
Suck on that f*ggot western feminist losers, and get used to it, because there's more of that on the way!
anon69
Are men normally allowed to have nude photos of their 17-y-o girlfriends on their phone in Russia? That's not sarcasm but a good faith question. If so, then Russia might be superior despite psycho severe laws for activity with under 16's. If not, meh.
The article's behind a paywall and I'm not prepared to pay the Washington Compost for it. Nevertheless, it potentially marks a highly interested turning point in favour of common sense. Obviously, according to the Compost, Puello-Mota will be a paedophile fleeing justice, but this story could help change attitudes. It is almost bound to circulate both in the manosphere and among people who see Putin's Russia as some beacon of light.
It is equally almost inevitable that as it does so, the story will give these types permission to be less paedohysterical. Putin lovers, for example, almost entirely believe that one of Russia's virtues is that it "stands up to paedophilia". There are elements of truth to that, eg drag queen story hours aren't allowed. However, these people will be forced to ask whether someone having nude photos of their 17-y-o girlfriend on their phone is really the same thing, and which country is being reasonable in this case, the country Puello-Mota is fleeing from or the one who is sheltering him.
NPC says does not compute! Expl*sion imminent!
-Anonymous 2
In a recent thread on the same topic on Boychat, a Russian transsexual who calls herself Veronica wrote:
If you are an enemy of Putin or enemy of some governor then police will argue that you plotted conspiracy against God, Putin, and you are the enemy of the state, and you not only wanted to fuck kids, but also to eat them, also you are an Ukrainian spy (Ukraines are evil and they fuck and eat kids ). If on the other hand you are Putin's friend or a member of the state apparatus, then you can do anything, and possession of child porn will not be a problem. I think that most pedophiles who posses child erotica are not prosecuted in Russia, but not because Russian law in some sense progressive, but because police and lawmakers don't care, also the main priority of the police is prosecution of dissidents. Also they don't care about welfare of kids. There are also some cyber police which monitors the Internet content, but their priority it to ban content against Putin and the state, not child porn. Propagating any porn using internet is illegal in Russia, but there is still plenty of pornographic material circulating in the Russian segment of the Internet.
However that may be, Russian police, no matter how tough their laws are, don't initiate sting operations nor pose as fake minors for the sole purpose of filling their already overcrowded prisons.
If the Russian tranny is right, which he probably is, then that makes Russia pretty damn cool.
However, Russia could be cutting off the heads of men with teenage girlfriends, and it wouldn't matter, because that is conduct that stays inside Russia, and you don't have to live in Russia.
The facts are:
1) Russia doesn't care about feminist bullsh*t "child pornography" if you pledge allegiance to Russia and support them.
2) Russia does not seek to force its culture on other countries, unlike the West and the USA, which literally created a global feminist government empire that seeks to force all countries to adopt the same feminism that the USA practices within its own borders.
anon69
Apropos Russia-directly unrelated, but came to my mind.
Some commenter at TOC's once:
It is one thing if one discusses the absurd and harmful sexual repressiveness of our (post-)modern times theoretically (as I always did), an another one if it touched some people with whom you are acquainted personally.
Being unmarried and childless myself, I have a large friend circle in that nearly everyone has children – young ones, since we are all roughly in our 30s. One of these kids is a 4-year-old boy, smart and kind and bold one.
Recently, he and his parents paid a visit to their closest neighbours, another couple with a child – a 6-year-old girl. Children were left alone for a time, while parents had a small party together. And, when they came to a room where children were left to play, they found the boy with his pants down, and the girl intently studying the little thing he had there.
There was a scandal. The children were angrily interrogated, and it was found out that it was the older girl’s initiative and behest to play this way. Yet, it was the boy who is now facing harsh consequences.
Now, he is no longer allowed to enter the neighbouring house where the girl lives, despite it being the main gathering spot for the local kindergarten-age kids, and has to look at other playing children from behind the fence, since the girl’s parents seem to perceive him as “a little pervert” of a kind, not to be allowed to in the vicinity of other children, especially girls. Needless to say, this banishment is a source of an intense distress for a poor kid – as well as the adults’ insistence that he has done a Very Bad Thing and now must feel guilty and ashamed for his vile villainy.
His mother is now trying to negotiate his pardon, insisting that the boy understands that he has committed a horrible misdeed, regrets it greatly and will never reoffend this way again, but, as for now, to no avail.
This is insanity.
What is especially sad, just two decades ago, in the semi-anarchic Russia of the 1990s, the adults’ attitudes to children’s sex play were most tolerant and lenient. In times of my own childhood and adolescence, I knew kids who played sexually with each other, were exposed by adults, yet suffered no negative social consequences whatsoever, since the adults of that much more sexually (and otherwise) libertarian era thought that it is normal and natural for children to explore their sexuality together in a playful way.
Since then, Russia has unfortunately adopted the most restrictive and repressive Western ways of dealing with child (and intergenerational) sexuality.
Thanks for sharing, MH. Yeah, it is insanity. Children are evidently no longer allowed a time to learn and explore nudity and sexuality without the expectation that they should have known better. They are expected to be already socialized into fully formed prudes as soon as they can move. In a way this spectacularly deprives them of innocence, real innocence, which is ironic because it is their supposed innocence all this hysteria is meant to uphold. How can four-year-old boys be expected to know what is "appropriate" without some playtime first which is a little bit forgiving of mistakes? Now they are literally held to the same standards as adult men and judged immediately. Which goes to show society definitely believes they can consent -- to bad behavior only. And the standard for bad behavior is so insane that it rules out playing doctor and all that harmless stuff we did as kids in my generation and earlier which the adults took no notice of because they weren't beset with CSA panic.
https://www.pimfortuyn.com/pim-fortuyn/columns-pim-fortuyn/archief-columns/166-de-moderne-schandpaal?highlight=WyJiZWxnaVx1MDBlYiJd
Somehow my mental synapses brought me to this. It is highly likely very well known article. Despite not being fan of this part of "political spectrum", this bloke made sense at least. Unlike TRICATEL-made* alt-right shitters nowadays.
""Toen ik jong was, viel dat laatste onder het hoofdstuk 'doktertje spelen'. Geen moeder die daar een woord aan vuil maakte. Wij hadden een groot huis met een zolder en gingen daar met vriendjes en vriendinnetjes op spelen, en als vanzelf ontaardde dat in doktertje spelen. Als het te stil werd, kwam mijn moeder snel met een dienblad vol glazen ranja binnenlopen. Zij deed dan of ze niets zag. Ons spel ging daarvan op een natuurlijke wijze over op iets anders.
Sedert de kolonisatie van de wereld van het kind door volwassenen zijn dergelijke eenvoudige oplossingen nog zelden voorhanden. Het valt onmiddellijk onder het hoofdstuk ongeoorloofde en ongewenste intimiteiten, en voordat de kinderen het doorhebben, is er een stoet van gogen die zich over hen ontfermt. Daardoor wordt iets wat geen probleem was - het ontdekken van de wereld van de andere sekse - ineens een levensgroot probleem. En als die kinderen ergens van getraumatiseerd zouden kunnen raken, is het wel van deze bespottelijke aandacht en zorg om niets. ""
*TRICATEL-made for those who don't know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-x9Eidqnw8
Telegramm's boss arrested in France. This is in spite of his being a Russian dissident/refugee who took huge risks in favour of freedom of expression in Russia. You can be sure Telegramm's lack of sexual censorship is what motivates this move. In the West preventing unfettered sexual hook-ups trumps anything, including anti-Russian stances.
Finally a little bit of prosexual resistance!
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/27/asia/philippines-apollo-quiboloy-davao-police-intl-hnk/index.html
A violent standoff between Philippine police and followers of a fugitive preacher wanted by both the FBI and local law enforcement on sexual abuse and human trafficking charges entered a fourth day on Tuesday as nearly 2,000 officers surrounded a sprawling church compound.
Pastor Apollo Carreon Quiboloy, a self-styled “appointed son of God” and founder of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ church, has been on the run for at least three years.
A 2021 US indictment accuses the 74-year-old preacher and his alleged accomplices of running a sex trafficking ring that coerced girls and young women to have sex with him under threats of “eternal damnation.”
Quiboloy, who has denied all the charges against him, is believed by Philippine police to be hiding inside a 30-hectare (75 acre) compound that includes a cathedral, a college, a bunker and a taxiway leading to Davao International Airport.
Police have been attempting to arrest the preacher and five of his alleged accomplices in a raid that began on Saturday in the city in southern Philippines. But they have met fierce and at times violent resistance from his followers, who allegedly threw stones at officers and blocked a highway with burning tires Davao police said on Facebook.
It isn't much, but we should savor what we can get.
He "coerced" women with "threats of eternal damnation," huh? Shouldn't women be held responsible for whether they want to believe in crazy religious claims? They need saving for this too as yet another way to construct "sexual abuse"?
https://cs-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Guru_J%C3%A1ra?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_J%C3%A1ra
I always wondered: Adult, mentally sane??, not involuntarily under influence of psychotropic substances, no force,no coercion=rape?....or even anything illegal?...
Anything goes when accusing sexual abuse. There are no gurus, sex cults, or female agency whatsoever anymore, only rape rape rape.
"In the West preventing unfettered sexual hook-ups trumps anything, including anti-Russian stances."
Could be, but I would also say that they like "free" platforms which evil Vlad can't control but not too much free so they themselves can't control it.
Freedom of speech yes-we are not in some evil totalitarian state....eeehh but you know,not too much ...because...(insert some propaganda shit)
Eivind might like this Incels.is thread : https://incels.is/threads/thoughts-on-male-rape-done-by-foids.645034/
It seems that one of my comments have disappeared. ( one that was citing deceased Dutch politician).
I doubt that it was deleted by you Eivind. Google again?
In relation to that cult leader story - it seems that Iran might not be such a Male Sexualist paradise as some here believe : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13765485/Fortune-teller-executed-Iran-convicted-raping-female-clients.html
@MH - Yes, it was Google messing with comments again reclassifying it as spam after I approved it. Should be back now.
Thanks
I wasn't expecting THIS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi6Ik8HMvzQ
@6:30.
Curiously and a bit disappointingly, though, there has been hardly any commenting about it underneath. The one single comment was some dope joking it was an early picture of Joe and Jill Biden, as if her age relative to his has ever been any sort of controversy. Even that only got 6 upvotes, a tiny number compared to votes for comments about other things in the video.
Maybe the point Sandman was making was just so out there that it didn't really register with most viewers.
-Anonymous 2
OT: I've noticed(by visiting NG) that formerly (almost) unobtainable books by David Sonenschein Pedophiles on Parade are now available on LibGen.
INTROduction
.......It has been known for quite some time that there is a considerable variety of
sexual relationships and events that occur between adults and non-adults. The
consequences of those contacts and affairs are also known to cover a wide range,and the specific cultural and historical points at which they occur are of significant influence. But the associations commonly have been looked down upon, and despite clear evidence of variance, actual descriptive research has been quite rare. Professional views, at least initially, usually encode popular ethnocentric superstitions; consequently, the relationships and the individuals involved in them have long been defined and governed by agents whose intents have more to do with discipline and dominance than with empirical investigation and open access to information.
Beginning roughly in the mid-1970s, with seeming suddenness youth-adult sex
became vehemently condemned, its varieties homogenized into a single image of horrendous abuse and exploitation. Participants became subjected to increasingly savage punishment, supporters were stigmatized, and those interested in critical research were ignored or censured.
The apparent explosion of condemnation actually had firm historical precursors
coming from three cultural domains. One was the professional culture, a historically specific interrelated system of values, meanings, and socioeconomic relations that formed career paths for journalists, mental health and social workers, researchers, and legal and medical personnel. Drawing upon templates already in place, construction and punishment of “The Pedophile” followed all the same steps that had been used on other deliberately stigmatized sexual interests and behaviors in the The tools, methods, and assumptions of investigation, the styles of past, representation, the intentions of rehabilitation and elimination—all contained elements that predetermined the characterization of pedophiles and children. Theory and method were linear, causal, and object obsessed. The drive theory of sexuality,
after a brief replacement by more complex and realistic explanations, reemerged to dominate with a new vehemence.
Another source was the political culture. The long present tension in America
between reaction and liberalism became intensified by a fervid resurgence of
religious and political fundamentalism in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Some old antagonisms (such as feminism and patriarchal interests) found effective
commonalities with an ease and rapidity surprising to those unaware of historical
precedents. Classic liberalism continued its collapse begun several decades before the 1980s, leftist radicalism continued to splinter, and military wings of the right
continued to gain members and armaments. Major segments of gay and lesbian
movements were co-opted by mainstream and conservative mentalities. Feminism became professionalized and trivialized by academics, but more significantly, the movement fractured, attracting and encouraging totalitarian personalities who insisted on essentialist dogmas of belief and behavior. The children's liberation movement was suffocated by legal discourse and failed to replace itself over time. Old and new hostilities escalated into literal combat. War was explicitly declared, and rhetoric and imagery were major weapons.
The third domain helping construct the phenomenon was the popular culture,
the subject of this study. It was here that traditional images and genre were drawn upon to characterize youth-adult sexual relationships. Adult-youth sex is overlaid by a number of themes, motifs, and narrative devices clustering around three essential elements of what constitutes a singular conception of “child molesting.' The three
foci—the pedophile as villain, the juvenile as victim, and an adult as hero—require interdependent descriptions, settings, and plottings. These relatively stable connections have maintained historical consistency and ensured the popularity of the images for both the general public and professionals.
Thanks for posting that, MH. It sums up the entire CSA panic including its history and causes in a nutshell, with due emphasis on the role of professionals in the abuse industry who profit from the witch-hunt. "Beginning roughly in the mid-1970s, with seeming suddenness youth-adult sex became vehemently condemned, its varieties homogenized into a single image of horrendous abuse and exploitation. Participants became subjected to increasingly savage punishment, supporters were stigmatized, and those interested in critical research were ignored or censured."
Homogenized, indeed! Sexuality is now fully pasteurized and homogenized into the “consenting adults” trope which is also so riddled with exceptions that it is almost never fully legal. Most of sexuality is fitted into either pedophilia or rape and abuse and exploitation because women are always victims too. If they don’t think so at the time they can always look back and accuse later under one law or another.
And here I am on sexuality’s side so lonely that I only have a handful of people in the entire world to talk to about it who will even acknowledge that there is a problem.
Not having a go at you Eivind, but have you done anything in your MAP outreach role yet? How about at least an article justifying MAP activism as men's rights?
Here's a great video on Charlie Chaplin.https://youtu.be/DbW7PMwmjSM
Bruce Rind has just published a new paper, but this time it's about something a little different:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383699408_Same-Sex_Sexual_Behavior_Age-Class_and_Coalitions_in_Male_Rhesus_Macaques_Macaca_mulatta
That's cool. "Same-Sex Sexual Behavior, Age-Class, and Coalitions in Male Rhesus Macaques (Macaca mulatta)."
Abstract
In the present study, relations between same-sex sexual behavior (SSB), age-class, and coalitional behavior in male rhesus macaques were examined in a re-analysis of data first analyzed and reported by Clive et al. (2023). Age-class as a focal variable was indicated in an extensive literature review, which showed that male non-adult (juvenile, adolescent) participation in SSB is extensive in this and related primate species and associated with various benefits. Clive et al. (2023) excluded juveniles from their analysis. In the re-analysis (n = 995 mounting events), it was found that non-adult involvement was substantial (51%). Most dyads contained at least one non-adult (76%). Young and prime adult mounters most often selected non-adults to mount. Mounters were often sexually motivated: most for adolescents (72%); equally for juveniles (57%) and adults (56%). Finally, the highest rate of SSB with coalitional context appeared in adolescent–adult dyads involved in multiple repeated mounts. SSB, age-class, special friendships, bonding, and coalitions were linked, as reported in some other primate species and human societies cross-culturally. Employing age-class in male SSB analysis improved description and explanation.
I guess Bruce Rind is most interested in pederasty. He has certainly addressed the virtues of adult females too copulating with juvenile males in previous papers (both human and primate), but I would also love to hear about the girl-love equivalent in monkeys and whether that is associated with benefits for the young? My guess would be it's rather neutral since that's the finding in humans. No spectacular benefits, but no harm either compared to same-age pairings.
Rind is primarily interested in checking other studies for flaws, especially when they are due to political correctness. In this case, the fact that juveniles were excluded from analysis even though the research showed that "non-adult involvement was substantial".
There is a school of thought that regards animal studies as telling us precisely nothing about human behaviour. I'm on the fence about it. However, FWIW I read years ago about how some species of birds sometimes have "courts" in which bird "criminals" are put on "trial"-storks and crows were mentioned. The birds stand in a circle around the "accused" and move in on it and peck it to death. Apparently "paedo birds" get this treatment.
Of course this just possibly could be more revealing of the moral panic around kids and sex than anything else.
On that topic, see this- https://www.bitchute.com/video/TBNC2M5dG1Q .
Podcast of the Lotus Eaters-Podcast of the Paedocrites more like it-much ado about nothing.
I find it noteworthy that POTL hosts and guests will be nuanced and open-minded about some things, but only some. I seriously get the impression that they know that part of their job is to be mindlessly indignant about this topic.
On the bright side, the comments on Bitchute are a haven for paedocrites, but here there were a couple of comments describing this video as "cringe" and "virtue-spiralling."
-Anonymous 2
I was reading about the world-renowned Russian author Fyodor Dostoevsky and found the following on Wikipedia:
Some of his childhood experiences found their way into his writings. When a nine-year-old girl had been raped by a drunk, he was asked to fetch his father to attend to her. The incident haunted him, and the theme of the desire of a mature man for a young girl appears in The Devils, The Brothers Karamazov, Crime and Punishment, and other writings.
I'm finding it difficult to successfully comment here, and others seem to be having pro blems. Maybe because Eivind hasn't posted a new article for months so there are nearly 200 comments now under this one.
I don't think anyone has mentioned the Tate brothers being charged with underage sex in Romania. This will be interesting for two reasons. Firstly, whether his millions of followers stay loyal to him. I mean, from the accusations against them, they are no different to Epstein now.
Secondly, the age of consent was 14 but femihags raised it to 16 in Romania recently. They are American and British citizens. Will they be charged in the US or the UK for having underage sex abroad?
Umm, okay. Not sure how anything follows from the fact that some people are raped.
-Anonymous 2
More evidence that nikah mutah is awesome and Islam's temporary (and permanent) child marriages are pretty cool:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sex-tourism-indonesia-sells-itself-090045409.html
Just ignore all the usual feminist whining and shrieking, and it's a very positive story for the practice of normal male heterosexuality. I'm also positive that any western oppressed man will be a better partner than the saudi bogeyman the feminists use in the article to attack nikah mutah.
anon69
Your post made me look into recent changes in European AOC laws, and unfortunately, not only Romania but also Estonia and Lithuania have "fallen", with all 3 countries going from 14 to 16.
-Anonymous 2
Puncak in Indonesia is a well-known mountain pass with a lot of road traffic to and from Jakarta. Owing to altitude, the place has a temperate climate and people like to spend some time there to get away from the stifling equatorial heat. I heard there was action there but I never went there, preferring to stay in Jakarta where action was plentiful and within easy rech. I doubt what takes place in Puncak is any different from straightforward prostitution. You don't need any "nikah mutah" charade in Jakarta to go to bed with a late teenager. Nikah mutah is rampant in Iran. It's the way for Iranians with some social status to fuck as many girls as they want. Of course it is only accessible to the local muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%27ah
That's cool! You might need nikah mutah to go to bed with a not so late teenager, I'm not sure, but with a local "guide" it's clear you don't have to do anything besides claim you're a non-practicing Muslim.
I watched 'Taxi Driver' for the first time in decades this week. Interested to know what people here think of it. Is Travis Bickle a pedocrite? He's certainly a hypocrite, ranting about cleaning up the city of filth, while taking his new girlfriend to a porn cinema. And he certainly manages to befriend a 12 year old girl easily enough. One interesting line in the movie is when he says that women are a union.
Jodie Foster is super cute in it. They could never make a movie with a real child playing a child prostitute today.
I know I have been neglecting my blog lately, but I will be coming back strong in due course. Meanwhile here are some uplifting words from the great Saint Thomas Aquinas:
I answer that, Since marriage is effected by way of a contract, it comes under the ordinance of positive law like other contracts. Consequently according to law (cap. Tua, De sponsal. impub.) it is determined that marriage may not be contracted before the age of discretion when each party is capable of sufficient deliberation about marriage, and of mutual fulfilment of the marriage debt, and that marriages otherwise contracted are void. Now for the most part this age is the fourteenth year in males and the twelfth year in women: but since the ordinances of positive law are consequent upon what happens in the majority of cases, if anyone reach the required perfection before the aforesaid age, so that nature and reason are sufficiently developed to supply the lack of age, the marriage is not annulled. Wherefore if the parties who marry before the age of puberty have marital intercourse before the aforesaid age, their marriage is none the less perpetually indissoluble.
And a good read on "How the ‘trauma’ cult took over mental health" which is so sensible it even corrected some misconceptions I had fallen for myself, namely that childhood adversity causes brain damage (real trauma, not fake CSA), for which the evidence is actually very bad:
https://thespectator.com/topic/trauma-cult-mental-health-therapy/
As for the idea that childhood adversity is toxic to the brain, this is actually a radical claim with little in the way of real evidence. In his brilliant book The Trouble with Trauma, child psychiatrist Michael Scheeringa explains why evidence for the stress-damages-the-brain-theory is so thin on the ground. The only reliable evidence that would clearly demonstrate a link between trauma and subsequent changes in the brain, he says, would be a study that captures brain images before and after the trauma (a pre-trauma prospective study followed by another one after the event). Currently, there are very few of these studies due to the obvious fact that it is not ethical to induce trauma.
Instead there are lots of cross sectional studies. These studies look at brains after the trauma has occurred, but have no way of knowing what the brain looked like before the trauma (e.g. whether the person had an undersized amygdala, over-active pre-frontal cortex, or other neurological disability which might predispose them to a heightened traumatic response). The few before and after studies that do exist seem to point towards pre-dispositional vulnerabilities. Predisposition has also, so far at least, been the most successful theory explaining other psychiatric conditions like depression, schizophrenia, anxiety and bipolar disorder.
So the trauma damages the brain theory is the outlier here, and it is frankly incredible that governments, top tier universities, and entire professions have placed all their eggs into this big Freudian-hypothesis basket.
He choose plea bargain - he got 68 years for possession of child pornography:
https://www.narsol.org/2024/09/florida-make-better-choices/
And this one got 85-120 years for another "non-contact" crime:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/nebraska-man-high-school-teenage-girls-b2614583.html
Another woman who remembers being raped when looking back on her own life of debauchery:
https://apnews.com/article/pelicot-france-rape-trial-5033d9a6d00630f00592018eccc9236c
Pics were shown in court of her being gang-banged. Apparently she pics showed her performing acts of lewdness, including pleasuring herself with a dildo. The pics apparently made it plain she did take an active part in whatever took place. She had first claimed she had been unconscious. When that turned out implausible, she claimed she had been drugged.
Denizens here might be interested in this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBYmpGcrTSY . I've listened to the whole thing and I am gobsmacked.
It comes complete with "25 -year-old-brain" and lack of "full myelination" @13:30 or so. According to the woman, "it can go up til you're 30." Then the bitch proposes the half age plus seven rule as an actual law and the simp agrees with her. Wow.
Their answer to lower ages of consent in the past is that people had chaperones, basically. All kids all the time, I presume.
They focus moves by communist or communist-adjacent groups to lower or abolish the AOC. However, they ignore attempts to raise AOC laws and to be generally more harsh towards men that have been made by feminist and globalist governments, NGO's etc, organizations that could be considered communist. I'd like to ask them why ages of consent and general harshness have gone up increased around the world with no signs of abating.
I wonder if any people who are linked by posters here ever come to know about this blog and if so, what they think of this. I think these two people's heads would explode.
-Anonymous 2
Time for a new blog post:
https://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2024/09/metaphysical-interlude-iii-first-person.html
Which will probably interest no one, I know, but I felt it important to catch up on the latest publications on the metaphysics of personal identity.
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