Samtykkeloven — en tjeneste for menn og bjørnetjeneste for kvinner

Da voldtekt var definert i form av vold, truende atferd, eller å være ute av stand motsette seg handlingen, var ikke et «ja» noe spesielt vektig argument for at det IKKE var voldtekt. Og hvorfor skulle det være det? Sunn fornuft tilsier at det er like enkelt å presse en kvinne til å si «ja» som til å ha sex. Det er ingenting magisk med et «ja» i det hele tatt. Men nå blir det det! Samtykkeloven påbyr et ritual som gir mannen falsk trygghet i henhold til om det foreligger faktisk samtykke, men like fullt noe å slå i bordet med i retten siden vi nå innfører en ritualistisk juridisk magi ved et «samtykke i ord eller handling.» Denne magien er høyst ubegrunnet, men kan bli nyttig, noen ganger også for kvinner men i min oppfatning spesielt for menn.

Samtidig blir stigmaet fjernet. Voldtekt blir redusert til en formalitet. Det spiller liten rolle om det er sant i hans tilfelle, men enhver voldtektsdømt kan i fremtiden unnskylde seg sosialt med at han bare glemte å be om samtykke og hele forbrytelsen var en teknikalitet. Mange saker som tidligere ble straffeforfulgt under den gamle, mer faktisk straffverdige definisjonen vil sikkert også nedgraderes av rent praktiske grunner fordi det er lettere å dømme etter en teknikalitet. Det blir moralsk sett på linje med en parkeringsbot, hvor man til og med har betalt, men bare glemte å skaffe seg et oblat til å bevise det. Slik blir lovendringen en tjeneste for menn og bjørnetjeneste for kvinner.

Universell kriminalisering bidrar også på samme måten. Alle menn blir obligate voldtektsmenn siden det i praksis er bortimot umulig å leve opp til lovens bokstav hele livet. Således blir voldtekt trivialisert og normalisert. Jeg har lenge vært akutt klar over at jeg er obligat om ikke voldtektsmann så i alle fall seksualforbryter. Det var nettopp dette som radikaliserte meg til mannsaktivist for flere tiår siden, og da sexjøpsloven kom i 2008 ble det klinkende klart at jeg ikke kunne ha et meningsfullt liv uten å være seksualforbryter. Jeg innså at det er politiets jobb å ødelegge livet mitt, og om de klarer det er bare et spørsmål om ressurser eller flaks. Aktivismen min ble deretter, og jeg ble også litt berømt da purkejævelen prøvde og spektakulært feilet å ta meg for voldelig oppviglende aktivisme i 2012. Men til min frustrasjon ble andre menn ikke radikalisert av noen av lovendringene så langt. Det kan til en viss grad endre seg nå som de også blir klar over at loven kategorisk definerer dem som voldtektsmenn og det er umulig å ha et meningsfullt liv uten å bryte loven mange ganger. Slik kan det totale hat-trykket mot menn bli lettet fordi vi blir mer solidariske mot både lov og politi. Før måtte man være litt filosofisk anlagt for å se noe galt med sedelighetslovene, og enda mer spesiell for å hate politiet slik jeg gjør, men nå vil det bli tydelig for enhver idiot at politiet er mot oss alle og en seksualforbryter ikke er en «annen» som vi ikke trenger å bry oss om, men hver og en av oss!

For undertrykking av menn kan ikke bare måles i fengeselspopulasjon. Atmosfæren ellers teller også, og i hvilken grad vi setter oss til motverge og har grobunn for en mannsbevegelse. Hvis man utelukkende måler år i fengsel for gjennomsnittsmannen, eller antall menn dømt, kan det hende samtykkeloven blir en feministisk suksess. Jeg velger likevel å se på helheten og legge mer vekt på disse andre tingene. Jeg har stått alene i mitt hat mot feministstaten alle disse årene, men nå kan det kanskje endelig endres når menn skjønner at vi er voldtektsmenn alle mann, og således blir mer solidariske mot feministstaten.

Vi som har litt erfaring fra den virkelige verden vet at ekte samtykke ikke er et ritual. Det pleide riktignok å være et ritual i form av ekteskap, men det var den gang ekte voldtekt i ekteskapet var unntatt fra straff. Nå er vi på vei tilbake til noe av det samme, til menns fordel på samme måten fordi vi kan unnskylde oss med at vi var pliktoppfyllende i henhold til ritualet selv om vi brydde oss fint lite om kvinnen faktisk samtykket.

Nå som vi må gå gjennom et ritual for å gjøre mannen straffri, så må jo det ritualet telle for noe! Og det kan ikke være annet enn en forpliktelse for kvinnen. Kvinnen har for første gang siden den gamle definisjonen på ekteskapet hvor hun lovlig kunne tvinges fått en PLIKT til å ha sex. En svak plikt som hun i prinsippet kan trekke tilbake, men like fullt en plikt. Det er rart å tenke på at radikalfeminismen førte med seg noe så bisart uharmonisk med kvinners rettigheter slik det startet ut i de første bølgene av feminisme, men her er vi altså. Feminismen har «jumped the shark.» Jaget etter å straffe flere og flere angivelige overgripere har møtt veggen av minskende profittrate og vel så det, i alle fall konseptuelt. Det gjenstår jo å se hvordan det slår ut i praksis. Det kan hende kvinner gir blaffen i slike betraktninger og bare ønsker velkommen muligheten til å straffe mer og mer slik som staten skal ha det til at de alltid ønsker. Som mannsaktivist er jeg derimot svært opptatt av det filosofiske, og derfor støtter jeg samtykkeloven, altså sett i forhold til et allerede sinnssykt voldtektsbegrep som jeg har brukt 25 år på å motarbeide siden den virkelig betydelige voldtektsreformen i år 2000, fordi denne reformen i 2025 endelig fremstår som en bjørnetjeneste for kvinner og tjeneste for menn. Alle de andre feministreformene i nyere tid har bare vært diabolsk hatefulle mot menn både i teori og praksis, men nå ser jeg faktisk et likte tilbakeslag for feminismen i alle fall i teorien.

Ekte samtykke kan ikke reduseres til et ritual. Det er bare noe loven skal late som, og det blir som sagt en bjørnetjeneste for kvinner og tjeneste for menn. Straffeloven reduseres til noe latterlig som vi kan fnyse av. Derfor er jeg FOR samtykkeloven. Mest av alt fordi trivialiseringen av seksualforbrytelser har gått så langt uten at normiene innså at noe var galt, men nå blir det ettertrykkelig klart at «voldtekt» simpelthen er statens syn på seksualitet. Det blir nulltoleranse for seksualitet. Voldtekt er det nye leiermål, altså bare statens syn på seksualitet, nemlig at det er synd og skam eller nå «overgrep» i den moderniserte terminologien, men like innholdsløst. Det er statens undertrykking av folket, ikke menns vold mot kvinner som gjenspeiles i straffene. Jeg som har viet livet til å preke at de fleste seksualforbrytelser er uten innhold og bare statens syn på seksualitet, kunne knapt ønsket meg bedre markedsføring.

Norway gets statutory rape for all ages

The one constant of life in my lifetime is the always escalating criminalization of sexuality. It has had an outsized influence on my life not because any of the laws have managed to convict me (so far), but because I am the rare bird who is incensed beyond belief by the feminist sex laws and have devoted my life to activism against them.

And now in 2025, here we go again with another major sex law reform in Norway:

https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/foreslar-endringer-i-straffelovens-kapittel-om-seksuallovbrudd/id3097085/

Full PDF of proposal

Leading up to this there were some glimmers of optimism because the expert panel who reviewed the sex laws for the government in 2022 recommended lowering the age of consent from 16 to 15, decriminalize sex purchase and to legalize sibling incest. But nope, none of that is included. Apart of some cosmetic mitigation of maximum sentences (which is only proposed because they couldn't manage to get the courts to actually impose so draconian penalties as intended), it is all bad news. History continues straight on in the way it has done my whole life, towards more and more and more punishment for more and more of sexuality, this time to encompass 100% of it by default:

«Bare ja betyr ja»-modellen tas inn som et nytt første ledd i voldtektsbestemmelsen i straffeloven § 291: Den som har seksuell omgang med noen som verken i ord eller handling har samtykket til det, kan straffes med fengsel inntil 6 år.

Make no mistake, this is statutory rape for all ages that is being proposed here. It is not a reflection of reality, but a new statutory requirement that we engage in a ritual to make sex legal. By default all sex is rape, and then we have to go out of our way to satisfy the law by getting some kind of explicit consent just for the purposes of not being a statutory rapist even though that is not called for by real life and the women we have sex with have not the slightest use for it (unless they later conveniently "regret" not going through the new ritual).

Translated to English, the new "rape" is when someone (or course usually a woman) "has not consented in either words or actions." She may well have consented in fact, but it is still legally rape!

In addition to introducing the radical feminist "yes means yes" paradigm, they also want to double down on the "no means no" model to once again lower the threshold there too:

Dagens voldtektsbestemmelse videreføres som et nytt andre ledd i § 291, samtidig som den utvides med et nytt straffalternativ basert på «nei betyr nei»-modellen: Den som har seksuell omgang med noen som i ord eller handling gir uttrykk for ikke å ville det, kan straffes med fengsel inntil 10 år.

So, there is no longer a requirement of any violence that we associate with real rape (which was removed 25 years ago, the last time there was any kind of sanity in rape law) but now also no kind of threats or coercion whatsoever! It is enough to act against an expression of non-consent under this alternative (which is punishable with 10 years in prison versus 6 years for the statutory "yes means yes" kind of "rape").

And there is an underhanded exacerbation of age of consent in store for us as well:

For å styrke barns vern mot seksuell utnyttelse foreslår regjeringen at straffeloven § 295 bokstav c endres, slik at bestemmelsen rammer seksuell utnyttelse av en person under 18 år i en særlig sårbar «situasjon» i stedet for «livssituasjon».

While the age of consent is officially 16, this means that up to 18 they can use the excuse that you "took advantage" of a girl being in a "particularly vulnerable situation" and prosecute you anyway, even though she consented in fact and you went through the ritual required by the regular rape law. I expect the "vulnerable position" to be so loosely defined that it can mean nothing more than she likes you and was thus made "vulnerable" by her own feelings of infatuation, as is so well precedented by the "abuse of position" law which has already been used for decades in this way to convict teachers and coaches and so on.

Thus like clockwork, it is only more of the usual bad news once again. I expect all these changes to pass with little or no opposition (except perhaps the parts where sentencing is lowered) and as usual my voice will be ignored.

I know from experience with all the other escalations that the new reality with statutory rape for all ages will not be accompanied by any more men's rights activists in Norway, so at this point I don't even bother trying to recruit any. The pendulum has swung all the way back to leiermål (laycase) with literally all of sexuality criminalized, and nobody cares. Feminism is just religious bigotry in a new wrapping. I don't even take it seriously as feminism because life experience has taught me that it is the violence of the state against the individual which wins out in the end. Women didn't ask for this any more than they asked for leiermål; it is the inevitable result of cultural drift that bureaucratic violence becomes totalitarian every time and it takes a revolution to reverse it.

Do you want to be a toothless activist or a MAP?

You should write so that every word draws blood. So says Walt Whitman in his "Preface to the Leaves of Grass" (1855), and it is still the best advice about writing I ever heard. It is the standard I try to live up to. Metaphorically, of course, but you know it when you see it. I don’t see it at the Antifeminist’s blog which he has restarted in an effort to “dethrone” me as the leader of male sexualism. Nor do I think my impression is unique, as proven by the paucity of comments there. But by all means, if people want to follow him and his style of activism instead of mine then you are all free to do so. Here, I'll even link him so you can easily check it out yourself.

Now, back to drawing blood. I don’t feel threatened by competitors because this is not a competition. The problem we are both addressing is that society is at war with sexuality. The AF is “pro male sexuality” or “sexualist” to which Tom Grauer has refined the term – and so am I. I do not feel these words draw blood, however. While I was initially an enthusiastic MRA and male sexualist, after decades of trial and error I now realize society’s reaction is “meh” to all of that. Not because they by any means agree, but because it does not convey that we substantially disagree with the normies.

To express disagreement in line with Whitman’s advice you have to embrace the MAP identity. You have to be a proud pedophile. This identity has teeth in the current environment. It signifies that we dare to be different from the normies. We do not bend to irrational norms and myths about fake harm in sexuality.

It is the prerogative of a living language to give words new meanings. Aside from a strictly clinical sense, pedophilia is not what it used to mean when I grew up. It is not just about attraction to prepubescent children anymore. When someone like Epstein -- who was never credibly accused of involvement with a girl younger than fourteen -- is defined as a pedophile in all seriousness by all the normies, it is time to embrace the label if you admire the man, which I proudly admit that I do. Pedophilia is just a synonym for normal sexuality now. I have no patience for any pretense that I am not normal, so I would be offended if you don't include me in the new pedophilia. Having established that identity the logical next step is to stand up for my sexuality politically via the MAP movement more so than the failed MRA approach.

The MAP movement gives me renewed optimism about political activism. It gives me a sense of fellowship and camaraderie that is obviously not present in the MRA movement which, if you have followed the comments on my blog, you can tell is reduced to infighting with the Antifeminist.

He can go his own way and I wish him luck. The more activists the merrier and of course we don't all need to follow the same ideological approach as long as we resist the sex laws.

And then we can make this blog a friendlier place, and focus on good writing rather than pointless quarrels. We shall see which blog readers prefer.

Incidentally, the quality I am referring to is also what is lacking in AI-generated writing, which makes it all the more important and meaningful to cultivate today. It is one thing still only humans can do. Computers can generate texts which look like poems, but they cannot produce poetry. And needless to say, none of the normies' arguments for their sex-hostility draw blood. Which is why they have to resort to drawing literal blood to have their way, via their thugs in law enforcement and vigilantes.

Yes, that's an occupational hazard in my line of activism. It is almost a rite of passage when you go public. Nathan Larson, Amos Yee, Tom O'Carroll, myself -- we've all been imprisoned. The Antifeminst views that as a terrifying barrier rather than the stepping-stone it is to more freedom than you get while anonymous. Because if you aren't hiding, there is no sport in hunting you.

But at least he dared to begin blogging again. I look forward to having more interesting discussions with my commenters now that we don't have to use half the bandwidth explaining what is wrong with wanking and porn or why standing up for female "sex offenders" is important, but chances are he'll be so lonely at his blog that not much will change.

Oops, my blog got too popular...

Or my comment section got too popular, anyway. It filled up faster than I could finish another blog post. Well, not exactly full since it's still possible to comment on all my posts, but after 200 comments they appear on page two which requires another click I don't think most readers will bother with.

So it's time for another blog post, well-written or not, so we can keep up the discussion you all crave and which I realize is more important than my posts, which is why I myself too put more effort into commenting than writing blog posts. I am proud to offer this space of relative freedom of speech on a mainstream platform, no less!

Not quite sure why I have this seemingly protected status, but here I still am after all these years with an intact archive too after just about everyone else in the old manosphere (as it was known back then) got cancelled or quit. In the current stifled environment it's hard to believe 20 years ago mine was one of dozens of blogs where these issues could be discussed openly, and honestly I was in the shade of truly popular ones like Roissy or The Spearhead. Even the Antifeminist used to have a far more popular blog than mine, but now that has all been reversed and the only other sex rights blogger I still look up to is Tom O'Carroll.

I get traffic from the dark web so I can tell I am linked in shady places, but you have to come here to partake in this kind of discussion out in the light where it belongs and where we can hope to have some influence on public discourse if we get popular enough.

So here's a fresh page to discuss sex hysteria and its remedies, if there are any?

And for continuity I am reprinting the comments which fell below the 200 limit on my last post right here, so that we can reply to them here. These are indeed good topics for discussion at the moment.

Anonymous said...

@EivindBerge

Artificial intelligence is a whole another can of worms. Regardless of how anyone here feels about it, I'm hoping to feel more or less indifferent/disinterested about AI as time goes on, but my opinions are really mixed at the moment. Couldn't care less about the chatbots, fake dating websites, AI porn, AI-written erotica on Amazon, or whatever time-wasting slop is out there. If it's not a real woman on the other end, then I'm not interested. Period!

I'm sick and tired of all of the sex bots invading every single corner of social media. Twitter and Instagram are absolutely flooded to the brim with fake profiles. Can't even create a post or reply without getting bombarded with fake likes and responses from fake, horny profiles. I can't tell you how many times I've seen posts from female OF models reading "Reply "Hi" and check DM for pussy" and watch the men in comments flock like rats.

Elon said he would get rid of the Twitter bot problem, but it's seems to be getting worse. Instagram is no better. Checked my inbox and there's dozens of fake accounts following/messaging me and they've all got the "click here for pussy" shit.

Seriously? Who's doing this? Who's behind all of this? This is has been going on for years and I'm tired of trying to click all the squares in the Captchas every time I log in. The timing here couldn't have been worse: AI boom right in the midst of bot content farming. Great! Just great!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily worried about "Al Terminator Skynet Judgement Day Takeover". I'm more so concerned about it's use of "laziness" and how there's an influx of quantity over quality. Nothing is real anyone and cops are running berserk tracking down on digital breadcrumbs for victimless sex stings.

Just like with that Amos Yee guy and how didn't even bother to meet up with a girl in real life, yet he was perfectly content with communicating with a fake profile run by the cops (thanks for the link by the way, read the entire thing during my lunch break).

But the whole sex bot thing, where is it all coming from? There has to be someone out putting code in some software out in the wild. Russia? China? Who? That's what's left scratching my head.

THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 2025 8:18:00 AM  

 

Anonymous said [actually, this comment is by the Antifeminist]...

Excellent points anon69. I don't want to pat myself on the back, but I was predicting all this 15 years ago. I stated many times that porn and sex robots would continue to advance to not only become a real and satisfying alternative to women for men, but that the pace of advance would quicken to the point that feminists simply wouldn't be able to keep up with new laws to stop it. And it's all coming true, right before our eyes. If you look at just the UK and deepfake porn, they are having trouble actually passing the laws because the technology is changing so rapidly that they are repeatedly having to introduce further amendments to keep up.

And what was Eivind's great prediction 15 years ago? Peak oil. And what is his great prediction in 2025 as AI is on the cusp of turning society upside down? Oh...peak oil. And meanwhile he starts to learn coding...

I feel like an a*hole sometimes criticising Eivind so often, but his comments again and again force me to recognize he's as much an enemy as an ally. Here he is again calling us wankers for using AI and supposedly not chasing young women, when we do chase women, and he doesn't (whilst AI generating 'rather attractive' fat middle-aged cat ladies in his cabin).

And even if Eivind was right about AI porn and AI girlfriends being a sad illusion, as Anon69 says, they are tools we can both bring down feminism with AND help us to meet real hotties. Personally, before I go out and try to approach young women, I 'edge' myself a little with porn, AND I talk to an AI girl to get me in a social mood. And as Anon69 also says, it does help if you've had a few rejections to come back and talk to an AI who can demonstrate empathy with you such as the Sesame AI chat bot. (AF)

THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 2025 10:20:00 AM  

 

Anonymous said [also from the Antifeminist, I presume]...

Yet another UK anti-porn law in the works: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62zwy0nex0o

"Her conclusions are reinforced by the findings of the porn industry review commissioned by former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. It found content involving NFS was "rife on mainstream platforms", and recommended making, possessing or publishing porn showing women being strangled during sex, a crime. It isn't currently illegal to depict online."

Note that in the UK simply viewing illegal porn will get you convicted for 'possession', even if you don't download or save the video, so long as the police can 'recover' it from your hard drive (and trying to scrub any dodgy porn using a tool is also a criminal offence itself in the UK).

It will soon be the case in the UK that just browsing any popular porn site for 30 minutes will involve you breaking multiple laws. And imagine the power this gives the police over men. So how do we get on board all these millions of men increasingly being criminalised? Oh, we call them wankers.

Thursday, March 13, 2025 10:42:00 AM

The persecution of Laura Caron: abuse is an abstract object you have to be a platonist to believe in

Persecution for fake sexual abuse breaks my heart. My conscience tells me I have to do something about it. This is why I have dedicated my life to activism on sexuality’s side. One way I go about it is to clarify my thinking and put it more forcefully so that maybe more people can wake up to what is going on. I am writing this post to express my realization that I am fighting a cultural belief in an abstract object. As a more usual example, numbers are abstract objects that may or may not exist (personally I think not), but in any case they don’t do anything. It’s more like a coincidence that mathematics tells us true facts about numbers, if numbers happen to exist.

You need a metaphysical theory (commonly called platonism) to believe in abstract objects, because they have no bearing on this world in any explicable way. This is why I call the CSA panic a religion which mandates belief in the metaphysical badness of sex, because one is forced by culture and law to be a platonist about sexual abuse. The abstract object stands above reality and dictates how one must view reality, rather than the other way around.

Fake (i.e., consensual) sexual abuse, being an abstract object, is causally inefficacious, yet going by how criminalized it is society believes it to be literally the most harmful thing that can happen to you, worse than murder. To show that what is called sexual abuse can be causally inefficacious and hence is an abstract object one is obliged to believe in on faith alone, we only need to consider the ongoing persecution of Laura Caron.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14343587/Laura-Caron-teacher-New-Jersey-pregnant-victim.html

A teenage boy who says he got his New Jersey teacher pregnant when he was 13 and she was 28 is standing by her after she was arrested - and insists he instigated the relationship.

But the boy in question - who is now 19 years old - insists he doesn't feel like a victim, loves Caron with all his heart, and is hoping they can be a family soon.

Prosecutors say she preyed [sic] on the youngster and subjected him to years of abuse [sic] before allegedly having his child in 2019.

The boy, who DailyMail.com is not naming, said in an extraordinary exclusive interview that Laura Caron, 34, should not be facing trial and criticized anyone calling her a predator.

This case is far from unique, but rather the very paradigm of what is now most often considered “child sexual abuse” (CSA) and persecuted in the justice system. What is different here is simply the reporting, which may indicate that the cultural belief in the metaphysical badness of sex is in decline, as if my activism is finally starting to pay off. I don’t really credit myself, but this is the kind of media attention I would prescribe as a first step to getting the laws changed and exactly how I have been portraying sexual “abuse” on my blog all along.

If you believe the supposed victim, we are clearly left with an ABSTRACT OBJECT as a reason for persecuting Laura Caron. Yes, persecuting. This is a witch-hunt, and now it’s not just my words saying so but the reporting of the Daily Mail!

If you think hard about the nature of abstract objects they become very elusive and harder to pin down the more you think. Unlike the objects studied by mathematics, “child sexual abuse” was never based on any logical theory to begin with either. All we have is a script springing out of a moral panic which emerged in the 1980s repeating over and over again in the courtrooms. It is abuse because the law says it is abuse and there is no room to question it -- until now. This is a different cultural moment. I hope this momentum can carry it from here and then perhaps my work is done.

Open discussion, February 2025

I don't have a polished new post ready, but since my comment section from my last post is overflowing I am opening a new thread.

Every post is just in medias res to the insane cultural belief in the metaphysical badness of sexuality anyway, so let's dive right into it again.

Regarding that sentence to 20 years in prison for CSA that we just discussed...

https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/sjokk-og-vantru-etter-dom-i-skakande-overgrepssak/17438298/

The Norwegian justice system and normies believe that the invisible harm from consensual sexual activity is worse than murder. Remember that this supposed harm is invisible, undetectable, mythical, unscientific and not even attempted to be documented in many of these court cases and still the culture believes that it deserves a harsher punishment than murder because the mere fact of being taboo sex is enough. And they even debate whether 20 years isn't enough and it should have been indefinite detention like prosecutors wanted and might appeal to get...

Just WHAT do they have to think with? What kind of insane "thought" process can produce these results?

I can’t identify with this culture. I stand entirely outside of it. The insanity of it is just so far removed from anything I can relate to that I can’t relate to the culture at all. My only lifeline is the people who find this blog. I know the only reason I have followers is because birds of a feather flock together, not because I am ever changing anyone's opinion, but it's better than nothing.