So here comes the third installment in this series of merely philosophical reflection, in which I may not make any philosophical progress but sure do update the terminology, much like we have done in our evolution from MRA to MAP. I have previously referred to the question of whether the first-person perspective is metaphysically privileged as the "idiotic conundrum" (a term Geoffrey Klempner came up with), but now, thanks to this podcast by Robinson Erhardt and an excellent paper by his guest David Builes, I now know to refer to my position that the first-person perspective is indeed metaphysically privileged as first-person realism. Also new to me today is referring to the idiotic conundrum as the vertiginous question.
Although David Builes ultimately rejects first-person realism (he says in the podcast), his paper presents eight arguments in favor. The paper is thankfully open access, so you can all read it in full. In addition to the arguments it provides great clarity on how to think about this issue, including the terminology which I have now updated to be in line with contemporary academic philosophy. Some of his arguments are actually new to me. For example, I am not very conversant in anti-haecceitism and frankly I don't understand it much better after reading the paper either. But the decisive argument for me, which is similar to what I have said before, is the one he lists as number five:
5 PERSONAL IDENTITY: DISSOCIATION
There are puzzles of personal identity over time where I seem to have judgements about how I can persist through time that differ from my judgements about how David can persist through time. First-Person Realism can explain this, but other views can't.
For example, consider a classic fission case. Suppose I am about to go to sleep, and while I am asleep, half of my brain will be put into a body that is in a red room, and the other half of my brain will be put into a body that is in a blue room. From an external third-person perspective, it seems to me that David cannot survive this operation. After all, David can't be in both rooms, and it would be arbitrary if David went to either room, and the persistence of biological organisms like David is not a “further fact” beyond various relations of physical and biological continuity. However, when I adopt a first-person perspective and imagine myself going to sleep before the operation, it seems that I can clearly conceive of three possibilities: I can wake up the next day in a red room, I can wake up the next day in a blue room, or I can never wake up again.
However, if I judge that David can't wake up in either room tomorrow even though I can wake up in either room tomorrow, then it seems that I can't also consistently judge that I am identical to David. However, according to certain versions of First-Person Realism, it is clear how to make sense of these intuitions. For example, according to Hare's (2009) view, it is possible that tomorrow the red room is present, it is possible that tomorrow the blue room is present, and it is possible that no room will be present tomorrow. Furthermore, all three of these possibilities are consistent with David not surviving the operation.
Moreover, conceiving of David as a biological organism is not essential to the point. Even if David is a Cartesian immaterial soul, it still seems that what can happen to me can dissociate from what happens to an immaterial soul, just as what happens to me can dissociate from what happens to a biological organism.
Once you realize that there are thought experiments which show that personal identity can dissociate not only from your physical body and thus disprove physicalism but also dissociate from an immaterial soul, it becomes very hard to deny that personal identity is metaphysically privileged, beyond even what God (if he exists like any theist would have it) could create or govern! Which is why I tend to agree with Klempner that this is the deepest philosophical question.
There is the hard problem of consciousness, but then there is also the super-hard question of perspective. Even if we could solve the mind-body problem, we wouldn't know from the facts of consciousness how to explain which perspective or person goes with which mental state as opposed to any other. Why am I me and not you? We don't know!
Also new to me in this paper is how first-person realism sheds light on time and modality. I had basically accepted eternalism after reading "The Unreality of Time" by John Ellis McTaggart, but now I am not so sure that presentism might not be true after all. Perhaps the present is privileged in an analogous way to the first-person perspective, and there is no block universe? All this and more is best explained by Builes, so once again I highly recommend reading his paper. And among his citations I recommend reading Christian List's (2023) "The many-worlds theory of consciousness" for a sort of plausible theory of how exactly the first person might be metaphysically privileged without degrading into solipsism.
I welcome comments on first-person realism as well as our usual discussion on (anti-)sexual legislation and prosecution. Which is so grim that it behooves is to take a break now and again and ponder some philosophy for our sanity.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 207 of 207I never said calling somebody a paedocrite or a femihag is a horrible horrible thing to do. It just doesn't do much for us or offer any meaningful explanation of what is happening either. The entire culture is anti-sex, a state it has drifted into not because femihags suddenly got the superpower to decide everything (why didn't they think of it before, then?). Perhaps they can stage some protests and get a movie cancelled once in a while, even change specific laws, but none of this happens without men being almost as sex-hostile.
Then there is the fact that we get more of behavior that is reinforced with all kinds of rewards like being a "sex abuse victim" now is. If women were instead celebrated for being hot stuff at a young age, much like they were at Pitcairn Islands before the abuse industry ruined it, we would see them bragging about their young exploits instead of claiming to have been groomed and abused. It is doubtful how many femihags would remain without incentives and it makes more sense to me to blame the incentives, much of which are enforced by men.
Regarding the idea that men are psychopaths for risking having them branded as abuse victims by having illegal sex with them: nope, I'm not buying it. The incentives are aligned to reward supposed victims far more often than hurting them. Robert Lindsay is right that sociogenic abuse is nonsense and they readily get over this part as well, probably while laughing all the way to the bank. This is one thing pedophiles should stop beating themselves up over, as if we don't have enough external threats, lol.
Eivind explains cultural drift quite well and it would be convincing except for a couple of things.
One is how late to the party other MRA's to calling out female jealousy specifically of young women. Until recently, folks like Sandman and Better Bachelor were prepared to criticise women in every other way possible, yet left this one thing out. Someone could go through the archives and try to prove me wrong, but I've been following these people enough to get a sense of this.
The fact that they have started to do this shows just what a powerful taboo it is. It also shows that some progress has been made, though of course there continues to be a lot of depressing news. IMHO, older female jealousy was the first thing on these guys' minds and the last thing they were prepared to talk about.
The examples they are willing to use are also going down in age. Now they're far more likely to call out jealousy of 19-y-o women than before. Incidentally, I believe 19 is a convenient age to use for them since it is more than the bare minimum of 18 but sort of includes 18 insofar that changes to attitudes tend to not go from 18 to 19. A few weeks ago Sandman even spoke about how 14-y-o girls were considered marriage able back in the day, other talk about woodchipping paedophiles notwithstanding.
The 10-y-o drag queen Desmond is Amazing is another "exhibit" in the case I wish to make. Why no 10-y-o female exotic dancers to get the femiservatives fulminating? Because the left is not one bit more inclined to support this than the right. And that is because both sides are scared sh*tless of female wrath.
-Anonymous 2
"Bragging about their own exploits" alas was never something women ever often engaged in, at least not if the exploits had to do with sex. Promiscuity is a shame in women while in men it is something to be proud of. Female victimhood is not limited to sex but when it comes to sex, the female has to be a victim each and every time. As I pointed out above, female victimhood is nothing new. It is a thread running through human cultures. It is hardwired in men and women. The sexual revolution when women could be proud of sleeping around was just a blip, brought about by a new invention: the pill.
I couldn't resist posting this:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/26/elon-musk-uk-government-invite-tech-summit
Musk inveigling against the UK for releasing "convicted pedophiles". Pathetic how the anti-pedophile stance seems irresistible to those guys!
Eivind explains cultural drift quite well and it would be convincing except for a couple of things.
One is how late to the party other MRA's to calling out female jealousy specifically of young women. Until recently, folks like Sandman and Better Bachelor were prepared to criticize women in every other way possible, yet left this one thing out. Someone could go through the archives and try to prove me wrong, but I've been following these people enough to get a sense of this.
The fact that they have started to do this shows just what a powerful taboo it is. It has to also mean that some progress has been made, though of course there continues to be a lot of depressing news. IMHO, older female jealousy was the first thing on these guys' minds and the last thing they were prepared to talk about.
The examples they are willing to use are also going down in age. Now they're far more likely to call out jealousy of 19-y-o women than before. Incidentally, I believe 19 is a convenient age to use for them since it is more than the bare minimum of 18 but sort of includes 18 insofar that changes to attitudes tend to not go from 18 to 19. A few weeks ago Sandman even spoke about how 14-y-o girls were considered marriage able back in the day, other talk about woodchipping paedophiles notwithstanding.
The 10-y-o drag queen Desmond is Amazing is another "exhibit" in the case I wish to make. Why no 10-y-o female exotic dancers to get the femiservatives fulminating? Because the left is not one bit more inclined to support this than the right. And that is because both sides are scared sh*tless of female wrath.
-Anonymous 2
PS Hope this isn't a re-post.
It was a repost, but it's tucked away on page two of the comments, so I don't blame you for not seeing it. My bad for not getting a new blog post ready. Working on one now where we can discuss cultural drift in more detail.
Here it is:
https://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2024/12/cultural-drift.html
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