Oh who is that young sinner with the handcuffs on his wrists?And what has he been after that they groan and shake their fists?And wherefore is he wearing such a conscience-stricken air?Oh they're taking him to prison for the color of his hair.'Tis a shame to human nature, such a head of hair as his;In the good old time 'twas hanging for the color that it is;Though hanging isn't bad enough and flaying would be fairFor the nameless and abominable color of his hair.Oh a deal of pains he's taken and a pretty price he's paidTo hide his poll or dye it of a mentionable shade;But they've pulled the beggar's hat off for the world to see and stare,And they're taking him to justice for the color of his hair.Now 'tis oakum for his fingers and the treadmill for his feet,And the quarry-gang on Portland in the cold and in the heat,And between his spells of labor in the time he has to spareHe can curse the God that made him for the color of his hair.
These [insights] were the combined work of myself and an archetypical sociopath; a convicted felon and an avowed child sexual predator. They are the distilled result of many hours of discussion between the two of us and a number of different sociopathic personalities about whether such "rewiring" or "reconfiguration" of an individual's personality would be either acceptable to the individual, or would constitute the survival of the individual. There was not just virtual unanimity that such re-engineering would constitute destruction of the person; there was absolute unanimity.
So, to be clear (and perhaps I should have been clearer) this is not (primarily) my opinion, it is the opinion of the person's most concerned. I have read much of what Oscar Wilde has written (including most of his Yellowbook essays), his published personal correspondence and many books about his life and his internment at Reading Gaol, where he spent his days pulling oakum, treading the barrel and turning the crank. These were miserable and debilitating activities that went on for 10 hours a for years on end (so-called hard labor).
In Wilde's case, these behaviors were prescribed for the purpose of rehabilitating his homosexuality. Not only did they fail, they caused Wilde to reflect deeply on to what extent his homosexuality was an integral part of who he was as person. Most people never consider in what way common elements of their behavior and "personality", for lack of better words, are critical to their personhood. Wilde's homosexuality unarguably shaped almost every aspect of his life, work and art, as well as his dress, aesthetics and social interactions (apart from his discrete sexual behavior). To cure Wilde of homosexuality, as opposed to his homosexual behavior -- and these are two very different things -- would be something that Wilde himself would have rejected as incompatible with who he was as a person.
Perhaps an even better example is that of the creator of modern computer science and the darling of uploaders everywhere, Alan Turing. British society and government undertook a program of neurobiological modification of Turing to ablate his homosexuality. Judging from Turing's correspondence, in this they were somewhat successful. After treatment with estrogens was discontinued Turing's sense of sexuality did not recover. He describes this in detail, including the horrible sense of depersonalization that resulted from it. This was without any doubt a major factor in his decision to kill himself, which has to be interpreted as a strong rejection of personhood. Indeed, he described the experience as having left him an incomplete person. [While not routine, the brain remodeling that occurs during intensive estrogen therapy in males does not always reverse when withdrawn.]
It is possible to acquire "bad" or undesirable behaviors which can be subtracted by either psychiatric or neuropsychiatric means and which, far from diminishing the person, enhances him. It is also possible to mistake undesirable behaviors for add-ons to a person, rather than as central to their personhood. For the same reasons most homosexuals (in the past) never revealed their inner cognitive states and personality structures, psychopaths, contemporary and otherwise, rarely do so. It is also the case that in any human population only a few people will have the ability to adequately reflect upon who they are and to then commit it to writing in an accessible way.
I have an extensive library on the psychology (psychopathology) of criminality, including extensive analyses of the personality structures of such individuals. However, perhaps the best book for understanding the personal identity structure of of the psychopath is The Gates of Janus, by Ian Brady, the Moors Murderer. The expanded edition has excellent and insightful material by Colin Wilson and Peter Sotos. Shortly before his death, Wilson gave a fascinating TV interview about his interaction with Brady; it was Wilson who edited and facilitated the publication of Brady's book. Wilson also agreed that the "psychopathology" was the person in the case of individuals like Brady.
Brady is the psychopath and the psychopath is Brady. They are not separable and it is not possible to successfully treat the patient without destroying him in the process. This is NOT the opinion of the therapists, so much as it is the position of the "patients". It is easy to mistake obtaining someone's accession to being killed, as opposed to being treated, as one in the same thing. Indeed, a version of this happens when law enforcement "persuades" innocent people to confess to heinous crimes which they did not commit and it happened in medicine during the era of the prefrontal lobotomy.
If you choose to believe that psychopaths are simply people who have acquired bad behaviors, apart from the very fabric of who they are, that is, of course, your right. If, on the other hand, you undertake to treat them on this basis, then may I suggest that you either make a will, reconcile yourself to homicide, or both.
To recap, I'm not stating that psychopaths must not ever be rewired to make them human in the sense being human is generally understood. Rather, I am saying that psychopaths, the people actually at issue here, want no part of such a treatment. Under the current, much evolved medical paradigm, patients (people) have the right to refuse treatment -- any treatment. If you choose to redefine psychopaths as not people, as incomplete people, or as something else, well, that is another matter altogether. The fact is that right now, today, we have effective treatments that allow many people currently incarcerated under dismal conditions to safely (for the rest of us) reenter the community. The thing is, these people do not wish to accept such treatments and instead "choose" to be incarcerated. I've never met a psychopath who felt otherwise. It is also the case that I've never met anyone who would accede to being rewired in such a way that they are no longer themselves. Thus, there is perfect parity here.
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Eivind, putting aside the Female Sex Offender Charade, how much of a double standard do you believe exists (and to what extent) in criminal justice systems throughout the world when it comes to men committing the similar crimes?
- Original Insights (Non-MAP)
I think such a double standard exists, but I don't know to what extent. From time to time there are political proposals to make it even easier for female criminals, so clearly there is a force in that direction. Unfortunately, rational discussion of the issue is impeded by the female sex offender charade which is often trotted out as examples by "MRAs" who believe in it. Their case for a pussy pass would be much stronger if they would back it up with nonsexual cases.
In my opinion, there’s no denying that such a double standard exists (even beyond sexuality) and is currently systematic (though there are outliers and exceptions like Jacquline Ma and Jennifer Fitcher), but legislation and advocacy has gotten so increasingly punitive and draconian that writing’s just going to end up on the wall at this point. Politicians and bills that are seen as “soft on crime” don’t get votes.
I’ve have seen some evidence for gender disparities (and I have to think back and remember where I saw it exactly), but as you mentioned, it’s impossible to convince people to examine their surroundings because these topics have gotten so incredibly polarizing and sensitive that trying to stay candid about it is going to get you thrown out the bus. Heck, the AF posted a comment not too long ago about him occasionally reading mainstream articles and discovering that comment sections typically unfold and divulge into politically-opposite internet users arguing over which political party has gotten the most ‘evil and corrupt’ by the “x” number of pedophiles and rapists they currently have. To me, I can definitely see how unfortunately truthful that is and you don’t have to go into comment sections to find that sort of thing.
The truth, nuance, and even the facts get muddled and buried in the impending hysteria. You can’t just “point things out” and expect people to remain open-minded. I’ve gotten persecuted on Reddit for criticizing an article written on police-based sex stings in my local city for its gratuitous, sensationalist headline, yet vagueness and absence in any sort of descriptive material. It was just “WE’VE CAUGHT CHILD SEX PREDATORS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKERS” with seemingly little-to-no information on what exactly transpired or who these people even were. (I’m guessing they were normal men just like us, but got caught by the carceral nanny state).
I’ve gave my two cents, but got downvoted to oblivion, called a pervert, accused of masturbating to children’s cartoons, and denounced as an advocate for pedophilia. It’s ironic when one tells people to use their critical eye, when the others don’t give him a chance to explain himself further and even misinterpret/misconstrue what he originally said in the first place.
I literally felt like that Hungarian doctor, Ignaz Semmelweis, who discovered that handwashing significantly lowered the morality rate of pregnant women admitted in clinical hospitals. He was ostracized and mocked into insanity. It’s hurts because that’s my own community there, despite the fact that I believed that I sounded pretty reasonable and articulated my points well enough when I made my comment.
People seem to have a lower IQ whenever discussions of sex crimes come up. It’s like their minds automatically go blank and this robot switch turns on and they start spouting the most nonsensical nonsense due to their programming.
Har I i Norge hørt om denne sag?
https://www.berlingske.dk/politik/sass-larsen-socialdemokratiet-ringede-for-at-faa-mig-ud
People seem to have a lower IQ whenever discussions of sex crimes come up. It’s like their minds automatically go blank and this robot switch turns on and they start spouting the most nonsensical nonsense.
That's exactly right. The whole panic in a nutshell.
Today I watched one of the most egregious examples yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-GPiQCBOlk
Canadian Prepper, who is able to talk intelligently about geopolitics and is obviously an expert on prepping… when it comes to sex crimes and this whole frenzy with Epstein which has now reached a new high with Trump being implicated by Musk... his mind goes full retard and he says about 15 minutes into the video:
"I think Melania was set up with him through Epstein... and maybe she was groomed, you know, there's quite an age gap there..."
Right… the most powerful man in the world has a younger wife (who by now is old anyway), and the most likely explanation that pops into the normies’ mind is GROOMING. The feminist mindset has completely taken hold of all the normies including otherwise highly intelligent ones. Anything which deviates from the narrow acceptable age gaps is automatically assumed to be a sex crime and this magic hypnotic voodoo of “grooming” explains entire marriages lasting into old age. Getting rich and First Lady counts for nothing… it must be GROOMING that explains why Melania is with Trump. And of course the ultimate monster Epstein as the grandmaster behind it all.
The cultural psychosis shows no sign of abating. Whenever you think this must be the peak because it can’t possibly get more retarded it only gets worse. And no, I don’t think feminists have the power to shut down men’s brains to this extent. It must be cultural drift, faddish insanity as the primary driver, sort of like the dancing plague:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_mania
And I think at some point we will collectively scratch our heads and wonder how we could have been so stupid to let ourselves be carried away by this shit.
No, not in the news in Norway as far as I know. That's a Danish politician getting cancelled over "child porn" with a funny twist:
Den tidligere toppolitiker fortæller, at han i 2018 fik tilsendt et link i en mail, og da han trykkede på linket, kunne han se et videoklip med et seksuelt overgreb mod sig selv, da han var tre år gammel i 1969.
It was a video of himself from 1969. But that's no excuse of course, since no excuse works against the metaphysical badness of sexuality which consumes everything it its path.
Den danske tidligere minister var i besiddelse af større mængder "børneovergrebsmateriale" plus en børne-sexdukke. Derfor lyder historien om "et videoklip med et seksuelt overgreb mod sig selv, da han var tre år gammel i 1969" som en dårlig undskyldning, hvis den overhovedet er sand.
Under alle omstændigheder fortjener han dog at blive dømt, da han var med til at vedtage en lovgivning, der gør det muligt at tiltale folk på et så spinkelt grundlag.
conservative usa preppers and doomers are just so miserable, incredibly devoid of fun personalities. these are the people you don't want at parties. no wonder they are looking for any reason whatsoever to shut down everyone's fun. if embracing an extreme feminist hallucination out of sexual jealousy will get someone else shut down for enjoying their life, these people are ready to embrace it. after all, they are literally praying for the collapse of civilization so they can smugly eat stored beans and say "i told you so" with their shotgun on their lap. the funny part is, if there really ever was a mass civilization collapse, their house would be the first one hit by hungry gangs, so they wouldn't even get a chance to gloat because they'd be dead or starving like everyone else.
these people are the real pandemic.
-anon69
Who is Mike Darwin?
He is the most skilled cryonics researcher.
Ultimately we figured we can't make any real progress in our lifetime and I myself have largely given up on cryonics, but what came out of hanging out in a movement with people like Mike Darwin (since 1996 in my case) is the kind of erudition that I just quoted. These are not normies and express independent, sometimes taboo ideas just like we do in the MAP movement (and as he says, there is significant overlap as well).
As a cryonicists Mike Darwin has thought deeply about personal identity and survival and concluded -- as I have done too with less erudition and eloquence -- that “treatment” of sex offenders (including chemical castration) is incompatible with survival because our sexuality is integral to our personhood rather than an “add-on” that can be dispensed with. This is as true for homosexuals as it is for heterosexuals and pedophiles.
Mike Darwin put it delightfully when he says that anyone contemplating "treating" us should reconcile themselves to homicide, make a will, or both. This is exactly how I feel too and indeed it is one of my oldest and most deeply held moral convictions, applicable to all psychiatric coercion.
Re: Canadian Prepper-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-GPiQCBOlk .
Like a fool, I decided to do due diligence and check to see if there were any comments on his normie age gap ideas. I went most of the way down the page and no, there weren't. Could I have tried harder? Could I have opened a few threads just to see, even if they were about other things? Of course I could have, and I might have even found one or two reactions, but I doubt it.
Obviously, his video was about many things, not just his idea of what's appropriate regarding age differences, but it just goes to show how people are like fish that don't understand what water is. And any verboten ideas would have to make it past both y/tube and Canadian Prepper, and then face either being totally ignored or reflexively condemned if allowed at all.
-Anonymous 2
Peter Schiff on Epstein (tweets deleted):
"I'm not saying it wasn't a crime. I just saying it's not pedophilia. When I was in college I had sex with under age girls. That doesn't make me a pedophile."
https://x.com/peterschiff/status/1930826339734708556 (Mirror: https://archive.ph/YsHzh)
"I'm made it clear that I wasn't defending Epstein. What he did was wrong.but human males are hard wired to be attracted to girls of that age. That's genetics. But most of us know better than to act on that attraction."
https://x.com/PeterSchiff/status/1930825639311065450 (Mirror: https://archive.ph/wcZsF)
Here's two more from Schiff:
"While an adult male having sex with a 16-year old girl is illegal, its perfectly normal to find her attractive."
https://x.com/Kirky426/status/1931000417573351442/photo/2
"FYI. Pedophiles are attracted to pre- pubescent girls and boys. I'm not defending Epstein. But he had sex with teenage girls, 14-17 that had physically developed sexually. They were underage, so criminal and immoral, but that does not make him a pedophile."
https://x.com/PeterSchiff/status/1930818380862505347 (Mirror https://archive.ph/081B5)
So Peter Schiff is just another groveling normie too. There is literally no dissent by anyone in the mainstream. After a little slip of honesty there that it’s genetics and thus perfectly normal to be attracted to “underage” girls he has to apologize for his nature and even that has to be deleted because it’s too heretical to display anything less than knee-jerk condemnation of it as pedophilia and the worst thing in the universe.
This is what men are reduced to on the public stage. They lead double lives, of course, but the public part of it is nauseating. Perhaps we should make our religion the Church of Underage Girls to make it clear we don’t engage in any of that prevarication. There is a male sexuality-sized vacuum in this culture screaming to be filled, and whoever gets there first will be the next Jesus. I shall give it my best shot. Think of it as a tremendous opportunity. The strongest force in the world has no spokesman, no leader, not even a court jester to get a word in sidewise that it might be a good thing rather than the most loathsome deviance that all the normies of course never engage in, or so they say publicly.
To borrow and adapt the words of Mike Darwin a bit more:
For the same reasons most homosexuals (in the past) never revealed their inner cognitive states and personality structures, contemporary heterosexuals rarely do so. It is also the case that in any human population only a few people will have the ability to adequately reflect upon who they are and to then commit it to writing in an accessible way.
I hope I am one of the few with an ability to adequately reflect upon who I am and commit it to writing in an accessible way. I think my blog is accessible if only there were interest in reading it, and I shall continue to develop the MRA Archive to be a record of my blog and more.
While most men are sexual, few will write about it in an accessible way and almost none will write that sort of thing when it is taboo to do so. In fiction and poetry there is more freedom, but even that is unproductive at the moment. As far as I know there is nobody like A.E. Housman today extolling oppressed sexuality in poetry; the last one who came close and had any talent was Robin Sharpe.
I am decidedly unaccomplished, but in the context of a field where almost no one else is trying, I am special. The only requirements are to show up as a proud pedophile and offer an accessible ideology.
I don’t count anonymous activists like the AF as really trying.
My competitors for the role of prophet of sexuality with mainstream traction are only the handful men I can name -- Nathan Larson most impressively but he is dead; Amos Yee is still young and promising and indeed a good contender, but then I can hardly name anyone else.
It is bizarre that nobody pro-sexual has developed any kind of cult following yet. Even Epstein has no cult other than the deranged negative one. It is a tremendous vacuum and as they say, nature abhors a vacuum. This situation must be unstable. It is only a matter of who can produce the most accessible sexualist writings, or be visible in some way that the normies can easily pick up on, and then that magic moment of cultural drift where the Zeitgeist gets a new impulse.
I think it all stems from the idea that everyone feels obligated to dictate society’s code of “morality” through legality. It’s all about this “moral hierarchy” to ostracize the ones who committed “deviance”. In essence, if it’s illegal then it must be literally wrong. Funny how the normies never applied that homosexuality, which was illegal several decades ago.
If the laws proclaim that she has been victimized, then she literally must be a victim and we are not allowed to question that, despite all of our due diligence saying otherwise.
“An Underage girl? No, no, she’s our precious chocolate strawberry.You can’t have her! You can’t take away her chastity! We must enforce that status quo because we don’t want teenage girls being under the influence of predatory, unstoppable men!”
I find that hypocritical because there are people who are advocates for the legalization/decriminalization of drug use, yet wouldn’t bat an eye for the countless registrants who have been declared and predisposed as “pedophiles” for their completely normal sexual interaction with teenagers, if they are measuring morality through legality.
Schiff is only there to join the bandwagon of the easy media narrative that demonizes Epstein as the devil-incarnate, even long after he is dead—because Epstein is a “pedophile” and a “human trafficker” of underage girls and we can’t say anything good of him because it goes against the status quo of victimocracy.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP)
Found a story about Norway
https://shorebeat.com/tomsriver/2025/04/prosecutors-toms-river-man-28-doxxed-and-arrested-after-traveling-to-meet-minor-abroad/
This poor USA guy, 27, met online a 14 year old girl in Norway. They made plans to have a good time, and he flew to Norway where they had sex. However, jealous f@ggots found out because he stupidly bragged, and they turned his ass over to the brutal great satan US federal government, who will now aim to put him in jail for 30 years for having sex with his young girlfriend in another country. The crazy thing is how no one thinks this is FUCKING OUTRAGEOUS.
Here are some choice quotes from "law enforcement" (cucks) regarding taking away the life of a young man for daring to leave great satan USA so he could have sex with his young girlfriend:
“Public safety is my number one priority for New Jersey’s residents, and my office is laser focused on protecting children and ending their exploitation at the hands of abusers,” (the girl lives in Norway...)
“The conduct here is as reprehensible as it is egregious: a then-27-year-old male took pains to plan international travel from New Jersey to Norway for the purpose of having sex with a 14-year-old girl.” (what exactly is egregious? then is drinking water, or saying the sky is blue, also reprehensible if a man does it?)
"We have federal laws protecting children because they cannot defend themselves,” (again, the girl is in Norway, not New Jersey, and I'm pretty sure she could've defended herself at any time by walking away from her computer because she was IN ANOTHER COUNTRY)
"Day in and day out – they are saving children who shouldn’t have to experience unspeakable horrors and abuse perpetrated by child sexual predators.” (what the hell is this guy talking about, the bitch went to the fucking hotel herself and had normal sex!)
anon69
Right. The “unspeakable horror” of normal sex… “exists” on a metaphysical plane the normies believe in -- so they can pretend there is unspeakable badness despite every observable fact in this world indicating normal sex. Not content with just redefining sexuality into criminality, the normies have constructed a religious belief to back it up. They wage TOTAL WAR against sexuality, which is why I wage total war back and don’t shy away from equally dirty tricks like starting a religion if I could, which would entail believing in the metaphysics of sexuality like the normies to meet them in the relevant space but filling it with good values instead of bad.
But religion is a social phenomenon, and sexualists are not social except when faking normiehood, which I alone don’t do. As an outcast from society I see clearly that religion only makes social sense. Of course I don’t buy into their antisex nonsense, but I see how it benefits the normies except the ones going to prison (not holding the others back from breaking the sex laws as they’re paedocrites anyway) as they can band together as thugs like law enforcement and prison guards and channel resources to themselves based on their metaphysical nonsense that sex is unspeakably bad. Similarly as an outcast who can’t have a normal life since I can’t make a single penny it would be pointless for me to practice Christianity, or Islam, or any kind of spiritual belief like Buddhism either. No religion was ever practiced in solitude for more than 40 days, which is the time you can fast, and then you need some kind of social support because nobody is self-sufficient. Religion only makes sense in that context, as social glue and justification.
To have any kind of real movement, religious or otherwise, we need to get together in real life and start organizations. That’s the only way it can be done, and Norway is not big enough to have a cofounder or a single follower in real life because interest in resisting the war on sex is so miniscule. I will keep trying, but it looks futile.
Excerpt from a new article on the Maddie McCann disappearance case:
Irish woman ‘in fear’ ahead of prime suspect's release:
An Irish woman who was allegedly raped at knifepoint by Christian Brueckner fears he will "hunt her down" when he is released from prison.
Brueckner, 48, who is the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case is set to be freed from a prison in Germany in September. He was jailed for the rape of a 72-year-old US woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2005.
Now, Hazel Behan, 41, who bravely waived her right to anonymity, has opened up about her ordeal and said she is living in fear.
She told The Sun: “His sentence may be ending but mine never did. I have lived with fear every day for 21 years. Fear that I’ll see him. Fear that he’ll find out where I live and hunt me down. I also have fear that he’ll do to someone else what he did to me.
“I’ve called him out in a public forum and I have genuine concern he could confront me. I wouldn’t put anything past a person like him. If he is released, I will worry for every woman and child who, like me, believes the justice system is protecting them. A leopard doesn’t change his spots.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-live-updates-portugal-35346837
“A leopard doesn’t change his spots” -- that’s the only sensible statement in that article, matching everything I’ve said about hair color and personal identity and the impossibility of “rehabilitating” sex offenders. Aside from the absurdly exaggerated fear of the supposed victims there against whoever may or may not be implicated, it goes to show how rare real rape and abduction is since they are still droning on about Madeleine McCann like they did ad nauseam already when it was fresh a generation ago. Is there really no other disappearance of a little girl that needs to be solved?
Lol, even the nihilists have a more forceful movement than us!
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/08/us/nihilism-black-pill-concepts-explained
An Oregon teen arrested last month in connection with an alleged mass shooting plot targeting a mall in southwestern Washington subscribed to a “nihilistic violent extremist ideology,” according to officials.
Similarly, FBI officials said Guy Edward Bartkus, the man accused of bombing a Palm Springs, California, fertility clinic last month, “had nihilistic ideations.”
It’s this “preoccupation with themes of violence, hopelessness, despair, pessimism, hatred, isolation, loneliness, or an ‘end-of-the-world’ philosophy” – as the FBI defines nihilistic ideation – that allegedly drives these individuals to violence.
Here’s how experts and authorities describe nihilism.
Nihilism, which is usually defined as a philosophical concept rather than a set of actions, is the belief that “all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated,” according to Alan Pratt, professor emeritus at Embry-Riddle University.
Nihilism is “associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence,” Pratt wrote in a philosophical definition. “A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy.”
How about trying sexual ideation instead before giving up on all other values? The sad fact is we are too small to even reach this level of sporadic activism. How can nihilism be more compelling than to stand up for one's criminalized sexuality? We are at the very bottom of all ideologies you can think of, and the normies can't even think we exist as heretics.
It may not be fair to call all those people nihilists as that article does, however. For example they call the incels and Elliot Rodger nihilists. I would rather call ER and most incels misguided sexualists. But our curse, even if we had famous activists explicitly identifying as sexualists or MAPs, is that society would probably call them nihilists too since the normies won’t acknowledge the existence of heresy against their imagined absolute truth of what is “sexual abuse.” Nihilism is somehow a “respectable” philosophy you can believe in, no matter how destructive, whereas sexualism is not, no matter how loving and life-affirming.
I wonder whether professor Alan Pratt would classify Arthur Schopenhauer as a terrorist. I wouldn't be surprised if he did. After all, FBI philosophers did so already so who's a professor of philosophy to contradict? I'm surprised the US press hasn't yet latched on the the fact the the Palm Springs bomber was an atheist, a mysogynist, an incel ...
These two again-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdVr5KzzWk8 .
The 1950's were degenerate by modern standards, or at least that's what the title is.
They somehow managed to make an over-one-hour video, quite interesting I must admit, but without one word about the difference in attitudes towards sex and kids, especially men and girls. I'm aware 1950's America wasn't mediaeval Iran or something, but it was nevertheless very different to now.But no, nothing, nada, zip, zilch.
-Anonymous 2
https://youtu.be/AAN85u-udis
Eivind, I’m not sure how often you take the time out of your day to watch movies, but take a look at this scene (if you haven’t already seen it) and tell me what you think of it.
The description of the video reads:
Instant Family [2018] - Pervert Punishment: Pete (Mark Wahlberg) and Ellie (Rose Byrne) assault [a janitor] Jacob (Nicholas Logan) for sending illicit photos to their daughter [Who is depicted as 15 in the film].
I swear, there’s an ungodly amount of scenes in movies where “strong women” aggressively kick men in the balls.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP)
I rarely ever watch movies anymore, and that clip makes me want to never watch a recently made movie again in my life. Unbelievably disgusting and taking for granted that we share the antisex "morality." I was even more surprised that the janitor was only 22, and they are depicting him like an old "child abuser" for talking to a 15-year-old, which actually makes me feel young because there is equal injustice with these ridiculously small age gaps and first they even try to attack one of her classmates.
But the sad fact is the audience probably really feels he "got what he deserves"? Or were there any bad reviews because of the insane moralism here?
I've also stopped watching post-2000 movies as they are echo-chambers for Today's social engineering. I watch a film noir from the 40s and 50s from time to time.
It feels so artificial and foreign like a period piece. Same feeling as the human sacrifice scene in Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. It feels unreal until I realize this is the water the normies swim in. It is our version of human sacrifice, and not history but the actual contemporary norms. It may be social engineering at the same time, which has been completely successful.
Movies will be worth watching again when beating up a man for flirting with a 15-year-old is portrayed as the quaint, barbaric custom that it is of very peculiar times. Make a movie of the culture drifting away and rejecting that kind of barbarity and I can start watching movies again, but this shit is unbearable because it is completely unironic moralism for the metaphysical badness of sexuality that is the religion of our times in the same way human sacrifice was important to the Mayans.
Ten years since Mark Wahlberg acted in the very anti-feminist movie Ted 2.
I dont think that movie clip was to bad, I will watch the movie, it looks fun. The "pedo" was even depicted as a very handsome and cool surfer type guy that girls watching the movie would feel attracted to and shake their heads to the treatment he receives.
It doesn't matter if the "sex offender" is a handsome surfer type only seven years older than the "victim." My experience with contemporary filmmaking is that directors are simpleminded propagandists for the supposed metaphysical badness of sexuality exactly as the most radical feminism prescribes. There is zero nuance to their work other than pure antisexual propaganda. Marlene Emilie Lyngstad is the director who made a short film based on me with her applied antisexual fantasies. Going by how her graduation project "Norwegian Offspring" was awarded at Cannes she is the most talented of her cohort in all the film schools of the world. I did not think it was possible to make a more sex-hostile film, since it has the protagonist fail in every conceivable way like being impotent with real women until finding the only feminist-approved "outlet" which is a sex doll so women can be spared (with the moral being that's what all men should do because sex is so disgusting and abusive to women). Well, it turns out she is in the process of making an even more sex-hostile movie as her first feature-length film as a professional director. Her subject now is exactly what you would guess in retrospect once you hear it. The protagonist in "Norwegian Offspring" at least didn't hate himself, but now she has found a "Virtuous Pedophile" to portray in her next movie that she is working on and got public funding for. Of course. I reckon this will be the absolute peak of antisex propaganda filmmaking.
And it will be unwatchable as other than a record of the superstition of our times. There is a reason Lolita is a cultural icon but the current stories will presumably be forgotten as soon as they have collected their awards from Cannnes for being the most politically correct. Because we can relate to a character like Humbert, who is not merely a vehicle to state a morality but someone who can accomplish something even if you think it is immoral. He "has his fill" of Lolita as he puts it most memorably to me in the book. Who can relate to a VirPed who not only fails in every way to do anything "immoral" by the current norms but also hates himself and human nature? I might make an exception to not watching new movies when this one comes out just to see how surreally badly made it is. Maybe it will even be so bad that it is good. In the sort of way you might watch a Nazi or Communist propaganda film to see what their ideology was about.
I think it matters that the "sex offender" is a handsome and cool person instead of looking like a creepy fat loser as is often the case when they are portraying a "pedo" or "sex offender". There has to be some kind of meaning behind it that they cast such a handsome guy in the role of the "pedo" and not a creepy looking fat slob. I think they are trying to send a message.
I haven't seen the movie other than that scene, so for all I know you are right that they could be trying to send a message overall that so-called CSA is more complicated or even flatly wrong in some cases. Perhaps someone here could review it for us. However, I am still guessing not. After all, handsome sex offenders are a dime a dozen. In the female sex offender charade, obvious beauty is the norm and "hot for teacher" is the very stereotype, yet still society persists in its superstition that sex is unspeakably bad. When prosecutors ask for 20 years to life in prison for a hot female teacher, and jugdges grant most of it, it's safe to say at this point that there is no hidden message being sent that we need to stop persecuting harmless sexuality, and none is received beyond the "I wish I were so lucky" comments from men. The current witch-hunt has been stable for decades now. It therefore takes more than an above-average-looking sex offender in a movie for me to believe there is a subversive message in it.
No, to me, the message sent by prosecuting or kicking handsome sex offenders in the nuts is that CSA is a metaphysical concept and society believes in it as such. Perhaps the message is even designed to be more politically correct by showing ANYONE can be a sex offender no matter how attractive to girls. Sure, the "victims" have no psychological reason to be disgusted, and we can grant that and still believe it is heinous abuse because the abuse is believed to be metaphysical.
There is a further problem with thinking "CSA" is an exaggeration of ugliness and disgust. Sure, the stereoptypical male pedophile is middle-aged, balding and more or less fat. In other words he is pretty much an average guy. Does society really believe that this ugliness is so bad that girls are traumatized for life? If so, how are adult women able to put up with it as soon as they turn 18? On reflection, I think ugliness has very little to do with it, because again, CSA is a metaphysical concept that equally applies to the hottest women "abusing" eager boys. We also know for a fact that young girls who have willing sex with the stereotypical-looking pedophile enjoy these relationships. Ugliness does not have such a grip on the cultural imagination that it alone gives rise to the monster that is the pedophile. You need magical thinking for that, some kind of metaphysics or whichcraft belief, and until proven otherwise I assume this movie is just more propaganda or a reflection of this religion of our times.
"When prosecutors ask for 20 years to life in prison for a hot female teacher, and jugdges grant most of it, it's safe to say at this point that there is no hidden message being sent that we need to stop persecuting harmless sexuality"
I agree on that, but prosecutors and judges are insanely evil people. I dont think that movie directors or writers agree with judges or prosecutors and they are probably smarter than most people and are not that easily moved by the anti-sex propaganda. So I absolutely see a hidden message in the clip from that movie.
And maybe, just maybe the writer or director of the movie wanted 13-18 year old girls who see the movie to think "why are they being so bad to that handsome guy that I just want to f**k and who did nothing wrong". And not a message for us guys necessarily.
You may be right about most notable directors. If we were talking about someone like Roman Polanski then I would definitely agree with you. I see “Instant Family” is directed by Sean Anders, and I don’t know what to think about him other than what I saw was disgusting. If it was intended to appeal to teenage girls and raise awareness about how all the sex hysteria isn’t really there to help them, then fair enough, that could work better.
I have only gotten to know one director, but damn did she make a strong impression that what they do now is feminist propaganda. I see no indication that Marlene Emilie Lyngstad will be particularly successful or notable as an artist, however. Her work only appeals to film school professors and politically correct festival juries so far. “Norwegian Offspring” did not make an impression on the public and garnered no debate, I think because it was so painfully clear what the moral is, namely that sex is bad and feminism always wins. It would be one thing to have a “happy ending” for feminism, but she goes way beyond that into making the man a pathetic failure at EVERY step of the way. I knew she was a feminist and was going to make an ultimately feminist movie, but the extent to this really shocked me when I saw the final script. I had assumed she had enough artistic awareness know a villain who is a total limp-dicked loser every step of the way does not make for an exciting story, but now I know it would be unthinkable for any man in her movies to accomplish the slightest sexual goal that goes against feminism, even if it is as mundane as enjoying himself with a real escort rather than a sex doll. It is her way of exercising control and make male sexuality into her image. She can do that in her artistic universe, sure, but I think her movies will fare accordingly. Her work is just propaganda which I can’t see appealing to the normie public either because it has no excitement, no tension or even the slightest ambiguity of the kind of we are arguing about with regard to “Instant Family.”
When she now tells me she is making a movie about a Virtuous Pedophile I can tell where this is going. Imagine how unbelievably feckless and boring that character will be. It would be like, say, you were making a movie about a thief, but his hand went lame before he could shoplift his first candy bar as a kid, and then he spends the rest of the story agonizing over how immoral it would be to steal. No action, no excitement, just moralizing. Even if we all agree stealing is wrong, I can’t imagine ANYBODY making that movie. You don’t need to be a graduate of a top film school to know a villain should be able to do a thing or two that you don’t necessarily agree with, we should think at some point that maybe he is strong enough to win even if it ends badly for him, and ideally a good story should have some ambiguity and leave you wondering if our moral judgments aren’t so clear cut after all. But they won’t do this with sex now because of the moral panic. The contrast to Humbert who has his fill of Lolita back when this subject could actually be explored artistically couldn’t have been starker, and there is no contest which story is for the ages and which is a historical aberration that will only fly as long as it can leech off of feminist funding and while the CSA hoax lasts.
I tried to tell Marlene that she is only making movies about Mary Sue, and that’s not good art. But she won’t listen. She is incapable of listening, because the CSA panic has completely colonized her mind.
The only culturally successful character who is anything as one-dimensional as her male characters is Sir Galahad. He is truly a Mary Sue much like a VirPed, yet successful with a large audience. But the chance of pulling that off again is slim to none and even if she can do it, half the time it will get this kind of review like John Michael Greer recently described Galahad:
Galahad is the supreme Mary Sue of the Christian mystic. All the Christian mystics I’ve ever met think he’s wonderful, and wish they were more like him. Everyone else thinks he’s an insufferable prig. He drips purity out of every pore, and this makes him invincible in combat. He shows up at King Arthur’s court, proves that he’s destined to find the Grail by sitting in the Perilous Seat that’s swallowed up every other claimant, gallops off at top speed to find the Grail, promptly finds it, drops dead on the spot in an odor of sanctity so strong it’s practically a stench, and is wafted straight to Heaven by a gaggle of angels.
https://www.ecosophia.net/intermezzo-the-ring-and-the-grail-2/
Believe it or not, the film is actually based on a true story. Now, how much of it actually occurred versus what was written for dramatic/artistic effect is not known (at least from my own research), because I cannot seem to find any corroborating article that proves that this particular scene (or at least some version of it) legitimately took place. It’s totally possible to assume that the reason the actor (Nicholas Logan) looks like a “surfer dude”, rather than a gruff, beer-gutted, and wrinkled truck driver dude (like the ones seen on To Catch a Predator) is probably because he is a stand-in for the supposed “predation” that occurred. There could be no reason for it, other than the director or the casting director wanting to showcase that an incel-ish and awkward looking man is capable of being a “predator” (even though he doesn’t look creepy or awkward at all), or at least someone who is capable of lying about his age to get younger girls to believe that he is just as old as them. There’s context from before that scene where it shows Mark Walhberg’s character reading the girl’s texts (who, by the way, is not actually his daughter because the film revolves around adopting and taking custody of non-biological foster children), and discovering a photoless profile messaging "If you don't show me something soon, I might lose interest".
Like I said, there could be no major reason for it, other than the director wanting to move away from stereotypes and such. Regardless, the woman that kicked him the balls (probably an attempt to make him infertile or whatever) and the man that punched him in the face never faced any repercussions for that kind of assault. Sure, those two and some other characters do end up going to court multiple times throughout out the film, but that’s all for custodial/drug-rehab related reasons, not for the assault, even though they completely overreacted and broke the law by doing so. But I guess that’s just what the normies want. A woman is allowed to beat a man to a a pulp as a way to give him his “comeuppance”, though it would be forbidden to do so if the genders were reversed. You can’t have a man casually punch a woman and then show him in a heroic light soon after. However, the message I see is that if you target is a “pedophile”, then you are allowed to break the rules, take matters into your own hands, and beat him to a pulp, because “justice is apparently infinite” when it comes to punishing sex crimes, hence the title of video I showed Eivind.
In terms of “bad reviews”, the movie is widely praised and has a strong approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes (82% critic score), but I can only find a finite amount of reviews criticising the movie in general, not that particular scene.
Although that particular video doesn’t really feature top comments condoning the actions of the two adults, if you look into other uploads of that clip, you are going to get comments gloating about how “satisfying” that scene was, even if those two adults acted completely irrationally and hysterically (which is ironic considering how many age-gap relationships are reported to the police by the victim’s parents or guardians).
The film is on Netflix over here in the states, but I guessing no one here is obviously going to find a way to watch it, considering how all disgusted we are by it.
Oh and the film takes place in California, so whoever that guy was (if he even was based on a real person), he probably had to register as sex offender for the rest of his life. Though, I’m not sure if that’s entirely the case because I think the law in California changed several years ago. Maybe he got lucky and was only put on probation and given little jail time, but he definitely was handed the scarlet letter regarding.
https://www.bayarea-attorney.com/california-s-three-tier-sex-offender-registration-system
Thanks for filling us in on the context of “Instant Family.” Nothing surprising there. These “catch a predator” scenes are so interchangeable they could fit anywhere in this culture, couldn’t they? And yeah, get an 82% or better approval rating too no matter how or where they occur as long as it is against anyone who can be branded a sex offender for any reason, and if the “predator” is handsome then all the more politically correct because then the panic can be expanded to make more men suspect.
My judgment was right, and I say that not to brag that I’m smarter than that other commenter who liked it and thought it spoke for our side, but because I am disappointed that nothing is changing yet. I wish I were wrong, but it’s just more of the same.
Weinstein convicted in retrial:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/11/us/harvey-weinstein-trial-verdict
However, it is now whittled down to something the media does not even have a colloquial word for, just a "criminal sex act." Not even "third degree rape" held up yet, which is meaningless in itself, just this legal technicality beyond the most watered-down "rape" which goes to show what I have been saying all along that feminists have simply redefined sexuality into criminality and this is now what passes as "justice."
Weinstein’s initial conviction five years ago seemed to cement the downfall of one of Hollywood’s most powerful men in a pivotal moment for the #MeToo movement. But that conviction was overturned last year, and the case was sent back for retrial in the same Manhattan courthouse.
This time, a majority-female jury convicted the former studio boss of forcibly subjecting one woman, Miriam Haley, to a criminal sex act in 2006.
But jurors acquitted Weinstein of another criminal sex act charge. It related to Kaja Sokola, whose allegations of forcible oral sex date to 2006 but were added to the case last year.
And jurors were to continue deliberating Thursday on a charge that he raped another woman, Jessica Mann, in 2013. Under New York law, the third-degree rape charge carries a lesser penalty than the first-degree criminal sex act offense.
I dont think making a big deal about some woman kicking a guy in the nuts in a movie is going to gain many followers to the sexualist movement. That's more or less on the same level as complaining about all the girls that are raping us poor men.
I don’t personally make a big deal out of any artwork. I recognize that unlike criminal convictions, art is inherently harmless and I only offer commentary appropriate to that level. That’s why I can laugh and not take it personally when movies and TV programs satirize myself, too.
I’m just saying that these artists suck. They reflect a more sinister reality where the normies really do want to kick us in the balls, but their movies are just movies.
I suppose the refusal of an artist like Marlene Emilie Lyngstad to depict ANY sexual relations that are satisfying to men makes sense in a twisted way. It makes crappy art, but makes sense when they hate male sexuality so much, because you cannot undo our accomplishments by sending us to hell or prison or sex offender registration or kicking us in the nuts or whatever in the end. It matters not that Humbert ultimately gets into trouble and dies. We all do. What matters is what we do along the way, and as such the story of Lolita is a spectacular triumph of what is now called “child sexual abuse” over any manner of antis. Who at that time where plain moralists who had yet to come up with any superstition that she was “traumatized” or even “abused.” As such, the work can be read by the antis in a way which they think support their position, because it is the hallmark of great art to not moralize, but leave it open for us to draw our own conclusions. Thus the work now exists in this peculiar double role where the magnificent bliss of enjoying young girls can be categorized as a story of “abuse” to avoid censorship, though nothing like it can be freshly published today and all the politically correct artists are scared shitless of the slightest hint in that direction. The most they will dare is a kick in the testicles for sending “lewd messages” to a girl before meeting her and never getting to meet her, as we have just seen.
That antisexual absolutism is the only way the feminists can “win” in their art. I intuit it has to be that way because I, too, have been with girls who made me feel I can die happy no matter what follows from here. I still feel that way. I feel life from here is a bonus where I get to uplift others with messages like this. That is, those who want to listen and be a force for good in this world, few as they may be; here I am if any of them should chance upon these words and want to build a sexualist movement.
Okay, that was me explaining the plot of that Instant Family film. I’m sure you can tell that it’s me from the length of my comments.
Anyways…
Eivind, even if you don’t have a strong interest in watching many movies, seeing The Sound of Freedom in theaters two years ago became one of reasons as to why I became so committed to finding the truth in all of this anti-sex hysteria. I went in, wondering what the rave and fuss was about regarding the film, but left with a skeptical taste in my mouth. It didn’t win me over. Let me remind you that this was before I had encountered all of this adequate research regarding offenders, trafficking, and whatnot. For years and years, I’ve been hearing about this kind of stuff, especially now when the everyday media and our own politicians have gotten increasingly polarized and buzzed up 24/7. Since so many people were talking about this “trafficking” stuff, I assumed that there must’ve been something going on. Now I’ve learned that it’s all extrapolated bullshit and how easy it is to fall to panic when you “keep hearing stuff”, but you don’t actually know the extent of it. Not to mention the conformity and not coming across as rude or asshole-ish when voicing or contemplating the slightest criticism. Even if that Tim Ballard flick was “birthday cake food” for the normies, it really brought me out of my shell when it came to confronting the information that’s presented in my face, head on. Yes, I’m not the only one. It had it critics, but its reaction was best summed up as being the polar opposite to that Cuties flick during Covid. Basically, if you didn’t like the film, you were branded as a pedophile supporter. Or in the case of Cuties, if you didn’t shit on it, you were basically signing your own death warrant. I have never seen that film in particular, so there’s a good chance that it’s not the kind of movie people think it was, but man, when Mr. Girl gave his opinion on it, I swear that I’ve never seen so many dislikes in my entire life. Isn’t he a satirical troll or whatever? There’s no way he had the balls to do that or be completely open about that.
Oh and there was the whole MAP being part of the LGBTQ+ community thing, which I knew from the get-go was laughable because who would light their own reputation on fire? I’m sure all those memes were fake and just there to stir up ragebait. Even Snopes and other fact-checking sites confirmed that basically every major LGTBQ+ organization had viscerally denied such an acquisition. I believe it was started by some trolls on 4-Chan, but I might be wrong on that notion. But my god, look at how one rumor can flip an entire switch on people’s reactions in an instant. Scary! Truly scary!
Now, I think one of the crowdfunders of that Sound of Freedom film was arrested for “assisting in child kidnapping”. Gee, whatever that was? Could he be a pedocrite? Who knows?
And I believe (if I’m not mistaken) that either the Tim or Jim guy got accused of harassment or whatever as it’s been a while since I’ve looked into it.
Even if it didn’t sway me, there’s a chance that I probably wouldn’t be here had I not seen the film. I guess inspiration can come from things you don’t necessarily like.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP).
Yeah, I never watched The Sound of Freedom because it was obvious anitsex crap. But I'm glad even the worst propaganda can have the opposite effect to what they intend. I wish we had more like you, Original Insights.
As to MAPs being accepted into the queer community, you are right that's not happening, even though logically we do belong there. The way it is set up now anything which deviates from normie sexuality the way it ostensibly is supposed to be should have a letter in that soup, and we are only excluded for hateful political reasons.
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That's propaganda for the rape law expansion which is currently in the making. Of course they need to fill in a "reality" which "needs" the new criteria to punish more "abuse." At this point we are down to the slightest discomfort which can arise during sex, after consent, but then makes it "rape" again because the man wasn't vigilant enough for signs that she said "no" in some way which also makes it rape after this new reform even if there is no violence and the woman does not resist in any way.
All of sex is getting redefined into rape and this is how the feminists try to normalize it.
I saw another example in Bergens Tidende on Saturday when I was shopping. I don't buy these newspapers but there it was on the front page, a feminist proclaiming something like "Most rapists don't attack you on the street; they are already sleeping right next to you in bed."
Could it be clearer that sexuality is simply redefined into criminality?
When I started out as an MRA we knew idea that "all heterosexual sex is rape" was the feminist project because it was spoken by radicals like Andrea Dworkin, but it wasn't quite made into law yet.
Now the radical feminist project is getting perfectly consummated. And MRAs are nowhere to be seen.
I had to Google who Andrea Dworkin was because her name sounded vaguely familiar. Suffice to say, she’s one of the ugliest women I’ve ever seen, especially when you consider the time period.
Surely, you would think that in the 70s and 80s when beauty standards were high and overweight people were practically nonexistent, that she would’ve at least tried to make herself more “socially presentable” for credibility's sake and to appeal to a wider audience. Nope.
Heck, I almost thought she could’ve been related to the famous French Wrestler, Andre the Giant, but it would be disrespectful to compare a respected legend like him to a slob like her.
Yet, it is so ironic to assume that she became one of the leading pioneers in modern anti-porn activism, even if you consider her looks and what she fought for. She basically had “Mary Whitehouse” levels of power throughout the media and the government.
I think she and another feminist used flawed, extrapolated statistics in front of Congress to make it seem like over a million children were being used in pornography and prostitution, though I could be wrong on that because it could’ve been another person with a similar name. Regardless, it’s insane how easy it was (and how easy it still is today) for radical feminists to hold such political momentum and influence. They can literally spur out of nowhere, walk right through their own government’s door any day of the week, and just mold and adjudicate laws into whatever they want it to be. No mainstream challenge, no resistance, and no opposition to anything. I guess there’s no handlebar-grip tighter than a bunch of bitter, unattractive feminists!
- Original Insights (Non-MAP).
Say whatever you want about mrgirl, but the man has produced some serious bangers over the years:
https://youtu.be/K6MHGStXxmE?t=18
https://youtu.be/dDmKIYxgApY?t=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0mVUVIUUnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJdhTMuxTWU
This person sounds interesting https://tftr.narsol.org/2025/05/09/im-fighting-the-registry-alone/
In summary he did a lot of legal studying and debating while in prison and now thinks he might have an argument to take down the registry!?
While I usually don't pay attention to activism against the registries since the war on sex hardly needs them anyway to destroy your life, this argument is worth noting:
I explained to him, “The registry isn’t merely collecting data—it’s forcing registrants to deliver a public safety message on behalf of the government. There’s no doubt it’s government speech. But *Walker v. Texas Division* sets a clear boundary: the government can engage in speech by using private speech as a resource—but only if that speech was voluntarily provided. The registry compels speech; silence is criminalized. Registrants don’t choose to speak—they’re forced. The government then takes this compelled information, frames it as evidence of dangerousness, and broadcasts it publicly.”
Okay. That's an interesting way to look at it. Maybe it will even work once or twice, but I don't see why the Supreme Court would be committed to not forcing sex offended to speak for the government. I bet they will be happy to reverse that precedent if not entirely then as an exception for sex offenders.
Here’s an interesting read for you, Eivind.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.3679117/scientists-research-man-missing-90-of-his-brain-who-leads-a-normal-life-1.3679125
“When a 44-year-old man from France started experiencing weakness in his leg, he went to the hospital. That's when doctors told him he was “missing” most of his brain. The man's skull was full of liquid, with just a thin layer of brain tissue left. The condition is known as hydrocephalus.”
“He was living a normal life. He has a family. He works. His IQ was tested at the time of his complaint. This came out to be 84, which is slightly below the normal range … So, this person is not bright — but perfectly, socially apt," explains Axel Cleeremans.”
“Cleeremans is a cognitive psychologist at the Université Libre in Brussels. When he learned about the case, which was first described in The Lancet in 2007, he saw a medical miracle — but also a major challenge to theories about consciousness.”
So, here we have a middle-age man — who is a white collar worker capable of raising a family with two kids and is somehow still a cognitively-functional member of society, despite his low IQ and living with excessive fluid buildup that has probably compressed a significant portion of his own neurons and brain matter. Yet, here we are, a quarter through the 21st century with ungodly advancements in medicine and science, still living by the unquestionable status quo that teenagers are generally incapable and incompetent of making proper and informed decisions because their brains “aren’t fully developed”. They are angsty and clueless “children” who are inherently victimized and are unable to consent with an older partner because one belongs to a different group of homogeneous species, while the other is “fully-developed” and “has a lot of life experience”, though god forbid those two intertwining and overlapping.
I swear, you can sit in a room with lobotomy patients on one side and teenagers on the other end and yet you'll still have the audience in the back proclaiming that the teenagers are “cognitively and mentally inferior”.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP).
Alas, when we think it cannot get worse, further escalation kicks in:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/109-children-rescued-244-arrested-operation-soteria-shield-child-exploitation-texas/
FBI agents have been busy entrapping men and a few women through the Internet.
"Original Insights (Non-MAP)" seems to be existing in 2005 when all of us already had experienced or found out in other ways that we were living in a feminist anti-sex world. It is well established in the sexualist movement that people way under the age of consent are very well capable of consenting to sex, so this is nothing new to us. Actually it's not news to anyone that young people can consent to a lot of things, but just not to sex because sex at is core when men are involved is considered as a very bad thing.
Yeah, but the truth needs to be rediscovered in every generation! And that gets harder and harder when the normies are indoctrinated from birth into the antisex lies. Be thankful that at least Original Insights is bucking the trend. We had it easy growing up before it really got started.
Hmm, I guess Anonymous didn’t quite get my tone and sarcasm. I am definitely the youngest member of this blog (20s). Of course, I’m well aware that we live in a punitive, anti-sex world. I practically grew up with heeded warnings of “stranger danger” and “good touch, bad touch” drilled into my head. I’m practically a “voluntary normie convert”, even though I don't 100% see myself as that way. It was pretty obvious to me from the get-go that much of these “moral crusades” and “child-protection advocacies" were run by these “worried-sick” mothers or very old politicians, even if I didn’t know the full and capable extent (or how far) feminist tree roots reached. Geez, give me a break. I’ve only been here since the start of this year. I used that particular article as an example to reflect on society’s hypocrisy. Adolescence will and always be infantilized regardless (whether by legal definitions, sanctions, political justifications, or lack of given independence), even if inconsistencies show up in other places like this one.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP).
I don't see how comparing girls to lobotomy patients is going to grow the sexualist movement.
It is society who considers minors dumber than lobotomy patients. The sexualist movement respects girls a great deal. We know how smart they are.
But it doesn't help grow our movement. Nothing helps so far. Do you have a better idea?
Nothing elicits feelings. The normies simply don't feel anything about this issue. They don't get angry like we did in my youth when the criminalization of sexuality was starting to ramp up, and I naively assumed men increasingly would get angrier about as it got worse. Now the radical feminists like Andrea Dworkin completely had their way but the MRA movement has literally vanished. Just a handful of MAPs still care and ONE non-MAP. I'm glad we at least have them and thought his comparison was right-on.
this shit is just so weird and gay. these brokeback mountain boys are every suffragette's dream.
anon69
any exception cucks can make for their fat old annoying women, the cucks will make. which is why logic like this doesn't work.
anon69
They "rescued" 109 children who were obviously never in any danger unless you count the metaphysical badness of sexuality which is now believed to harm children when they communicate online.
"During this operation, many of the children recognized or rescued were previously unidentified," said Plano Police Department Assistant Chief Dan Curtis. "They'd never been reported missing. They had never had their abuse known to authorities." The head of the Dallas FBI office said the methods used don't just involve social media but also online gaming systems.
"So I think for many of us, I'll speak for my generation, we were raised to be concerned about faceless strangers that might try to contact us or cause harm on the street, but we've moved past that," said Joseph Rothrock, the Dallas FBI Special Agent in Charge. "Again, predators have access to our children in our home through technology."
This new superstition is “progress” of the stranger danger… “Predators” have “access” to children who are and remain safe at home just because they talk together online. How come, when I was young and we didn’t have the Internet, we didn’t believe something similar about the telephone or letters or a message in a bottle, all of which we could use without thinking “abuse” could happen remotely that way.
We have descended into madness and it is seen as progress.
Of course the real predators are the cops. They are experts at exploiting superstitions to wield power and sadism. They are having an absolute field day milking the CSA hoax for all it's worth to them. They do this every day and then have extra special "fun" operations like that month-long "Operation Soteria Shield" in Texas there. No one will question spending unlimited police resources on this. In Greek mythology, Soteria was the goddess of safety and salvation, deliverance, and preservation from harm, which tells us how they think of themselves while actually being the most harmful predators on the Internet. Orwellian language is obligatory, the more righteous sounding you know the more the opposite is true.
The cops are revolting but normies are their enablers. Without the superstitions they couldn't carry on like this. But I guess they would just latch onto another superstition if they didn't have the CSA hoax. The one constant is power corrupts absolutely and they would surely find another excuse in a moment, like going back to persecuting the homosexuals or good old witches or whatever the normies would be okay with.
Update on Christina Formella’s case because yet another one bites the dust:
It seems like every day the laws are becoming less and less sympathetic to the plights of female sex offenders. That should be a concern among everyone, including the MRAs who continue gloss over the male and female systematic gender disparities. Everyone gets fucked around by them. The truth is not so straightforward. It’s bleaks and it’s only gonna get worse from here. It will never end and it will go on and on. We are the only defenders left on the planet.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/18/christina-formella-indicted-sexual-assault-charges/84259505007/
“Allegations of grooming and that the abuse lasted nearly two years, are beyond disturbing,” Berlin said in the release. “I thank the victim in this case for having the courage to come forward during what I imagine is an extremely difficult time for him.” Typical Prick statement. Berlin can go fuck himself. 15 year old boys are not victims of willing and consensual sex. PERIOD.
“Weeks later, following an investigation, a DuPage County grand jury on May 20, 2025, indicted Formella on 20 counts of sexual assault, 20 counts of aggravated sexual abuse, six counts of indecent solicitation of a child and six counts of grooming in the same case.”
Oh look, Grooming is now a legal term despite the nebulousness and inconsistency of it. 🙄 I fucking hate this word so much and how casually it’s mentioned like it suddenly has merit without a lick of context. Are we suddenly seeing Cupid’s arrow falling from the sky?
https://www.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2025-06-18-special-ed-teacher-accused-of-raping-teen-gets-surprising-support/
“Christina Formella, who had previously worked at Downers Grove South High School in a Chicago suburb, is now facing a total 55 charges including aggravated sexual assault, aggravated criminal sex abuse and grooming, which could carry up to 60 years in prison if convicted.”
60 years. 60 fucking years. It’s basically a death sentence. There’s no mercy anymore because you might as well become a terrorist fighting for martyrism as that’s how long sentences have casually gotten.
Eivind, you’re right about the Female Sex Offender Charade, but it’s unfortunate that the concept dismissed by so many MRAs because they see anti-sex laws as exclusively anti-male, when it should be looked as a metaphor for how increasingly punitive and cruel the system has gotten. If an MRA wants to fight the sex laws, he should stand up for basically everyone (including the women impacted by them) otherwise the laws will continue to leave their presence and injustice because now it’s just one giant mouse-and-glue trap everywhere you go.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP).
The law operates on the principle of "garbage in, garbage out." That's what "rule of law" is. Rule of law is glorified GIGO. Now with the garbage concept of "grooming" in the mix, we get even more garbage out. Did they study "grooming" first to determine if it had any merit? Of course not. The law is never evidence-based, certainly not with sex crimes. We need to correct for the garbage in some other way than upholding rule of law like MRAs stupidly do with women and thus only dig us further into the garbage for both sexes. The pussy pass was one way to correct for garbage laws, and we should obviously support it as MRAs, just like we should support a similar pass for men when appropriate. How about a more general pass for positive and harmless sex? It so happens that having a pussy is nearly always synonymous with beneficial or harmless sex to the "victims," so the pussy pass made sense. Of course we need to support that kind of sanity in response to insane sex laws and more like it for men too.
We can't expect sane sex laws any time soon, but somewhat saner enforcement is possible as evidenced by the pussy pass which was in effect until recently. Rule of law, as in upholding the law for its own sake just because it is the law, is insane. It is also insane when MRAs do it for (they think) strategic reasons with female sex offenders. We have 30 years of evidence for what happens by that "equal injustice for all" approach now, culminating in Christina Formella facing 6o years and all feminists in unanimous agreement that she deserves it. If we don't stand up for her, no one will, and then it will be even harder to get any kind of pass for men either when there was obviously no real abuse.
On the topic of all sex being legally redefined into rape, that this is literally happening and not just some feminist dream, this article is very good:
https://reason.com/2025/06/11/federal-prosecutors-are-starting-to-sound-like-campus-activists-about-sex-and-consent/
The Department of Justice (DOJ) is now embracing ideas about coercion and consent that rose to prominence on college campuses during the Barack Obama administration. That's the implication of the OneTaste case, in which a jury has returned a guilty verdict against Rachel Cherwitz and Nicole Daedone, who stood accused of a conspiracy to commit forced labor during their time with the sexual and spiritual self-help organization…
The defendants are being held accountable for how these women feel—or at least told FBI agents who were making promises and extolling their victimhood that they feel—about 10- and 15-year-old sexual activity that everyone seems to have been perfectly fine with at the time.
We're looking at campus kangaroo courts come to a federal courthouse, with U.S. attorneys fully embracing ideas about consent that were weird and radical just a decade or two ago…
It's a total affront to due process, giving people little notice about how to avoid liability (since consent in the moment clearly doesn't matter). And unlike on college campuses, the arbiters of these disputes now have the power to help put people in prison for long stretches…
We're supposed to ignore the fact that these women admittedly never told Daedone or Cherwitz, let alone their sexual partners, that they were uncomfortable or didn't want to do these things. We're supposed to ignore the fact that contemporaneous accounts of these acts—emails, texts, journal entries, social media posts—often showed sunny feelings about what was going on. And we're supposed to ignore the fact that these women didn't report any crimes or labor violations at the time and are only testifying after being approached by FBI agents a decade or two later.
So, someone gets it besides us. Elizabeth Nolan Brown, that is. There are no MRAs, but ironically some women are opposing the feminist madness! The fact that nearly all public voices against it are women is another reason I can’t take the AF’s STU theory seriously.
This Elizabeth Nolan Brown woman is great, maybe because she has good looks and doesn't need the STU. This is a Youtube vid critical of the sex-trafficking paradigm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxEPMsA0MiQ
Elizabeth Nolan Brown is a rare glimmer of hope in all of this hysteria. She’s also one of the only few mainstream journalists I can think of that’s been brave enough in really digging into the human trafficking moral panic and putting some rational, critical thought into it. Who would’ve thought that a woman would be one of the main vocal critics of one of the largest and most sensational hoaxes of the 21st century: Trafficking.
This is exactly what I meant when pointing out that opposition to modern anti-sex laws is not exclusively an MRA thing. Voices can come from even the most unexpected of places, evident by ENB. I wasn’t even trying to “white knight” Christina Formella. I was trying to point how fucked up the laws currently are and how they throw everyone under the bus. The writing is literally on the wall and they’re being taken by the beams of flying saucers.
I had the television on last night and the people being interviewed on the news just casually mention the phrase “child trafficker” amongst words of immigration and ICE without a blink or slight shift in any of their stoic facial expressions. They really treat something like this, as if it’s so common and rudimentary, that it suddenly doesn’t even need to become questioned anymore. You basically have to admit to yourself that “child sex trafficking” is somehow a serious epidemic just by hearing a few words from cops, the media, and those normies on polarizing social media platforms.
- Original Insights (Non-MAP).
Don't listen to whoever says it is white-knighting to defend female "sex offenders" like Christina Formella. Yeah, I know it's the AF who says that and he is so full of irrational hate against his simplistic version of feminism that he imagines all women are complicit in that he can't see she is a real victim who genuinely needs to be stuck up for. White-knighting is a term for the misguided kind of defence of women who don't really need it, but 60 years in prison is not in that category.
Do we want to be a hate movement against a movement that does not even exist or simply against the oppression of sexuality, no matter who is behind and who is being persecuted? I know I want to be a sexualist who lives up to that name. I defend sex-positivity for both men and women.
So more bad news the UK is going to make underage sex be defined in law as rape. Currently sex between 13 and 15 is not rape but the lesser charge of sexuality activity with a person below 16...
This is the result of the Casey report recommendations for "grooming gangs" . A retarded term that doesn't even make sense.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/what-is-the-casey-report-on-uk-grooming-gangs-and-why-did-labour-u-turn
Yesterday in Bergen I was delighted to meet some young girls protesting intergenerational exclusion. Yes, really! It hasn’t even been proposed yet, but they are already protesting excluding people under 15 from social media because they fear it coming to Norway like it has in Australia, with mandatory age verification which is the worst part, they say. It surprised me that they think it will not only apply to places like TikTok but also newspapers! "Stopp digital ekskludering av under 15" was their banner, which is a message I absolutely did not expect to see in a public place anymore, but there they are decisively promoting it. When it comes to protesting intergenerational apartheid, 13-year-old girls have more balls than men do! All the adult normies will probably welcome this new law like they have all the other crap driving a wedge between the generations, but the youth themselves know what they want and are resisting.
They were very friendly and I told them how much I agree with them. I am happy to note that they see it as exclusion which they are angry about rather than the "protection" from "predators" that our psycho politicians imagine.
That’s what I call the absolute rape age, which the UK will then equate with the age of consent at 16. In Norway the absolute rape age was invented and set at 14 a few years ago (not at 16 which is the age of consent), but a funny thing is happening right which is a de facto reversal of the absolute rape concept, because the current rape law reform in which there is much horrible news that I’ve already talked about actually includes a proposal to abolish the minimum sentence for the “absolute rape” kind of statutory rape!
Right now it is minimum four years in prison for “absolute rape” i.e. consensual sex with someone under 14, but the government has realized this is insane even if they haven’t realized that calling it rape is insane. So in the future, maybe in theory you can get a suspended sentence for sex with someone under 14 in Norway, but in practice this will likely only serve as a backhanded way to introduce a staggered age of consent, so I don’t really consider it good news. A man my age will still get four or more years but an 18-year-old might actually get a suspended sentence unlike now. So overall this a worsening in my view, since a staggered age of consent is a more revolting and unfair concept than equal injustice. Victimless sex is victimless regardless of the age of the fake “perpetrator” and young men aren’t any morally superior to me.
I bet a man like Tommy Robinson who is increasingly becoming mainstream will still be proud of himself for “exposing the grooming gangs” when you get the highest absolute rape age in the world, and be proud of that too. Sex with a 15-year-old already gets you multiple years in prison in the UK, but that wasn’t enough, huh? We must pretend it is “rape” too and turn it up much more?
I know he will still be proud. I have followed Tommy Robinson for years on Telegram to see for myself what his movement is about and I see no evidence of anything other than psychotic antisex bigotry. Those “patriots” who imagine they are saving Europe from an invasion of rapists are the absolute scum of the earth because even if they were partly right that immigrants behave badly (which is usually hysterical exaggeration anyway, but might have a kernel of truth), the feminist police state they want to deal with it will be so much worse for us all.
Tommy Robinson is the most dangerous man for male sexuality in the UK, much worse than any feminist could have done.
What does the report say?
The report identified an institutional failure to protect children and teenage girls from rape, exploitation and serious violence.
Among its recommendations, the Casey Report suggested a change in the law so adults in England and Wales face mandatory rape charges if they intentionally penetrate a child under age 16.
In her report, Casey concluded that too many grooming cases have been dropped or downgraded from rape to lesser charges because a 13- to 15-year-old is perceived to have been “in love with” or have “consented to” sex with the perpetrator.
Well, if that’s not proof that the “grooming gang” panic is bullshit I don’t know of any possible stronger evidence because this is admitted metaphysical invalidation of consent and love from anyone under 16!
Grooming is a metaphysical concept like absolute rape. We are to pretend reality does not exist, but instead this alternative world where consent is not consent and love is not love but all of it is rape is the real world.
The metaphysical badness of sexuality, once again.
We can also see from the Casey report (and the cultural concept of grooming and supposed inability to consent) that I was right about zombie culture:
https://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2023/04/zombie-culture.html
When minors go about consenting and loving, our culture says there are no corresponding mental states internal to these people because they are thought to be zombies. There is nothing it feels like to be a consenting minor because the relevant mental state cannot exist. Instead, they feel something I can’t make coherent sense of, I guess they feel raped and abused but somehow their behavior and speech is compelled by this mysterious force called “grooming” to indicate consent and love?
That’s what this culture literally believes.
I would be offended as a minor if told I am a zombie. How can I convince someone who believes I am a zombie that I feel what I say I feel and want what I behave like I want? It is impossible, because any possible evidence is metaphysically invalidated. Instead we get mandatory charges of rape, end of story.
This end of the story is satisfying to the normies. They don’t mind (except some minors who are in fact protesting). This is what we are stuck with in our lifetime, it seems, and still getting worse.
I looked up the brand new Casey Report to see for myself if it could really be this hateful or if Al Jazeera has misunderstood, but indeed it is accurate and the original is even worse!
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/685559d05225e4ed0bf3ce54/National_Audit_on_Group-based_Child_Sexual_Exploitation_and_Abuse.pdf
We were told of one case involving a 15-year-old vulnerable child who had been sexually exploited by an older man who had used the ‘boyfriend model’ to groom her. Their relationship was well known to local services and the police who tried to disrupt it, but she was insistent she was in love with the older man and did not want to leave him or support a prosecution. Despite having substantial evidence that they were having sex, including images on both of their phones and hotel room bookings, the fact she was ‘in love’ with him, said she had consented and would not support the prosecution led to the case not making it to court. Several years on, and now an adult who has realised she was a victim of child sexual exploitation, she has come back to the police to make allegations against him.
Being a genuine boyfriend to a 15-year-old girl who is consenting and loving in every observable way is metaphysically invalidated as a “boyfriend model” of “grooming”! Girls can simply regret it several years later as “an adult who has realised she was a victim of child sexual exploitation,” and the government will bend over backwards to convict, preferably with enhanced mandatory rape charges in the future where all that consent will count for nothing!
You can’t make this shit up. It is absolute hate against male sexuality to the point where I literally cannot conceive how it can get any worse, besides moving the absolute rape age upwards beyond 16 of course.
And it's not just the minor who is believed to be a zombie incapable of loving. The “groomer/rapist” is also a zombie in this worldview. He CANNOT love. He is merely faking love as a way to “coerce” the “child” into sex!
Given we know that ‘the boyfriend model’ - encouraging a child to believe they are in a loving, caring relationship as a means of coercing them into sex - is one of the most common methods used to groom children, it’s counter-intuitive that our legal system rewards perpetrators who effectively use this model by allowing them to avoid prosecution for one of the most serious offences: rape.
This will be the mandatory way to look at it, no exceptions. Intergenerational love is erased from reality.
Age gaps are one thing, but some people say that
> even a shota and loli getting together is pretty problematic in its actuality
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/279816482#p279833934
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/279816482#p279834438
> Literally two kids being in a serious relationship only means two parties who can't take responsibility for anything, and have not developed enough to consent
..they say. How do you refute that?
I wonder how adult normie women know they are not just being “groomed” by the “boyfriend model” and thus “coerced” into sex as opposed to having a real boyfriend? There is nothing left besides an arbitrary age to make a distinction, and that’s an awful lot of faith to put in an invisible line the government just came up with, lol.
No wonder they need to make all sex rape since there is no distinction anymore. They have reason to be suspicious of all their boyfriends and husbands if they truly believe in this absurd concept of “grooming.” The whole philosophy is unbelievably anti-human. It assumes everything is fake and no one feels anything except either abused or abusing. There is no love, just rape and an evil rapist mindset. I did not think feminism could be taken so far with so little opposition, but here we are, with just Elizabeth Nolan Brown and the handful of us seeing anything wrong with it.
Well having pointed to the Casey report above I decided to go on and actually write a blog post on it: https://unmaskingchildprotection.substack.com/p/grooming-gangs-and-the-new-sex-under
Actually I didn't cover it in the article but there's more evil in the whole thing. It's going to be tied into the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill which creates this "unique" identifier for each child and they want to share information around abuse etc for "multi-agency safeguarding" as the official gibberish term.
It's interesting Eivind you point to the girls campaigning against the social media bans. Are they part of some group? Maybe you can join! One would hope with all the different assaults on freedom coming from child protection laws these days we could get more recruits or form some broad group to take the whole thing down...
They are coming for kids on social media, they are coming for home educators, they are coming for free speech online... Hell the whole sex offender saga was initially framed as "parents worrying about their children's safety" but now these laws are coming for parents. Now parents are being dictated to how they can educate their children and they are being watched by the state for "signs of potential abuse" which even if they aren't convicted will then be recorded in national files that will then be shared willy nilly with any tom dick and harry who wants to later use it against them...
When are people going to wake up and just form an automatic hatred of any law that claims to "protect children"?
Yes this kind of rubbish was also present in the original Rotherham report which started off the whole "Grooming Gang" thing. I did a brief piece criticising it many years ago: https://web.archive.org/web/20190413103131/http://holocaust21.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/rotherham-abuse-inquiry-liars-liars-pants-on-fire/
In retrospect their might have been a few more references implying actual rape than I made out... But it's undoubtedly clear they were treating consensual cases as rape too and bundling it all together.
It is no exaggeration to say the Casey report is the most hateful document I have read in my life. It is the ultimate dehumanization of the “paedophile” (although they barely use that word, just once in the whole report). More to the point it is the ultimate dehumanization of any kind of “underage” sexual relations. They don’t need slurs to achieve this anymore because sexuality itself has been so thoroughly dehumanized. Both “victims” and “perpetrators” are one-dimensional zombies who can’t feel anything about what they are doing except along this singe dimension of abused or abuser. The older man CANNOT care about the girl other than to satisfy his selfish desires and the girl CANNOT care about the man AT ALL!
This goes so much further than just wanting to punish more and more, because it invalidates what makes us human. If you buy into the premises, it’s hard to see why you should stop believing in abuse just if the girl is a little older or the age gap is a little smaller and so on, because there is no meaningful distinction. This culture has prioritized the prosecution of “sexual abuse” to the point of throwing all our humanity out with the bathwater, and no one cares! The only feedback I get on Facebook for example is normies wanting to kill me, all while thinking they are brave rebels for being extra hateful to the only person in the country who is expressing a different view publicly. This virus of the mind is so insanely effective that the normies will never ever admit that sexuality is being persecuted or abuse is anywhere near prosecuted enough, no matter how far it goes.
Literally two kids being in a serious relationship only means two parties who can't take responsibility for anything, and have not developed enough to consent.. they say. How do you refute that?
I say neither the ability to take responsibility nor mental competence is needed to say a loving relationship is valid. Do we test these things for adult relationships? Yeah, maybe we do these days when they end up in court, but the system can’t keep up with millions getting demented and needing to be removed from their relationships if we were to follow this logic. So I refute it by saying it wasn’t valid to begin with, and we never acted as if we truly believe it, just made exceptions so we can control kids.
Not that I was expecting any better, but Pope Leo XIV looks set to be another parrot of CSA hysteria:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/21/europe/pope-leo-church-abuse-scandal-message-intl
In his message, the first American pope said it was vital the church followed “a concrete path of humility, truth, and reparation” when it came to tackling abuses and cited a landmark 2018 letter from Pope Francis, in which he pledged the church’s “commitment to guarantee the protection of minors and vulnerable adults”. Leo insisted that the response to abuse cannot simply be a “strategy” but requires a “conversion” by the church, which for decades has been grappling with devastating revelations of sexual abuse by priests and other church leaders.
He is a surprisingly self-aware parrot when he speaks of a “conversion” of the church, because that is exactly what it is, conversion to another religion, the CSA hoax (plus of “vulnerable adults” to parrot Andrea Dworkin that all adult sex is rape too) with its belief in the metaphysical badness of sexuality which supplants any religious belief they might have held previously.
No leaders think for themselves anymore. They just parrot the cultural dogma on sexual abuse.
Note how the system is using females' tendencies to look at their own past in terms of victimhood. It's analogous to porn actresses who are past it alleging they were coerced into doing porn when the going was good. Soon Eivind you will have your wish to see porn vanished granted. Lawyers and prosecutors will contact old porn actresses and porn actors will end up as Ron Jeremy. By that time I hope actresses will have been replaced by AI figures.
Still, in the above case the former 15-year old is a scum for going to the police and making allegations. Which man would do such a thing even if he had a right to? You need to be a gutless ungrateful imoral bag of shit to do such a thing and it seems women all too often answer to this description.
I don’t think it’s fair to judge women’s character from what some do in the midst of a mass psychosis. At least not until men get a similar opportunity and refrain from taking it. All of society and especially the government is telling women that no matter how much they consented as a young teen it was grooming and abuse and now literally rape too, plus they get a life-changing amount of money for accusing. These are so staggering incentives that I am surprised not more women take it. We know “grooming” and romance-redefined-to-rape is far more prevalent than what is accused. So we might as well judge women’s character from the ones who refrain from accusing despite these insane rewards for doing so. In light of how many refuse to accuse, women might even be more moral than men!
Like I've said before, both Jack and the AF are hating women in general and their hopes are in robots and AI. That is borderline insanity if you ask me. Without women and girls, there would not be anything to fight for. Girls and women are not the problem. The problem are the gatekeepers which is the feminists + the police that are poisoning peoples minds.
> In light of how many refuse to accuse, women might even be more moral than men!
Hmm. Really? To me, it seems as if there is very little data about women who have not (re)defined the relationships they had during their childhood/teenage-hood as rape/abuse. On the contrary, the stories of women who had tried it as a child and hated it (later) seem to be omnipresent. It, of course, makes sense if those who had a good, loving relationship wish to keep it secret, but what if these women really are a tiny minority? Even if that is the case, to hear their voices would give me some hope.
So, I wonder, on what base you make such claim. And how many is many, exactly.
In my estimate, out of all the women who could legally accuse statutory abuse, there are somewhere between 10 to 100 times more non-accusers than accusers, probably closer to 100 or a 1% accusation rate.
We know something about the prevalence of underage with age gap sex and we have statistics on convictions. We also have more knowledge based on life experience that won't be disclosed here for obvious reasons.
Also we know a large number of the accusations actually made to the police are false. This makes the statistics on accusations, trials and convictions misleading and drags down the proportion of women who accuse after a good relationship. Bottom line: if you have a good relationship with a girl, she is highly unlikely to accuse you. I would be 99% confident. There is a reason Nathan Larson had to go to the airport to deliberately get caught in his civil disobedience demonstration because the girl would never have accused on her own, and she is the typical kind. Amos's girl doesn't count because they never met and so never had a chance to build a real loving relationship.
This kind of scenario for getting caught is probably also more common than the girl accusing... doesn't count against her character but sure tells us something about men:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/federal-agent-charged-production-child-sexual-abuse-material
According to court documents, Timothy Ryan Gregg, 51, of Eagan, Minnesota, attempted, coerced, and enticed a minor victim to take part in sexually explicit conduct for the purpose of producing child pornography. According to court documents, the father of the minor victim discovered multiple sexually explicit images and videos on the minor victim’s cell phone. These images and videos depicted the minor and an older individual engaged in sexually explicit activity. The individual in the images and videos were later identified as Timothy Gregg, who is a Special Agent with Homeland Security Investigations and a Task Force Officer with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
And then there are all the outright fake victims who are made up in sting operations which fill a good bit of prison places. These also drag down the proportion of women who betray their lovers by accusing.
Looking more into Timothy Ryan Gregg, they met on Tinder where the girl posed as 18 and according to him she never told him she was 17. Yes, that kind of lie is a real “risk” but it’s so charming that they want to have sex with older men that I don’t hold it against them when girls lie about their age in order to meet. The moral of the story here is DON’T TAKE PICTURES that her parents can find!
Also I found out Minnesota has this insane staggered age of consent law where people between 16 and 18 can only consent to someone up to 36 months older. So this shit with criminalizing age gaps alone is already reality plus they have implemented all manner of other hateful feminist laws:
https://mncasa.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Sexual-Consent-Law-One-Pager-1.pdf
I guess we should call Timothy Gregg a paedocrite since he was an FBI agent... but I'm not sure he was involved in prosecuting sex crimes. If he was, then I would have to agree he got what he deserved.
A new paper co-edited by Bruce Rind. The entire text is available here:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/390144979_Bias_in_Sentencing_Men_for_Sexual_Offenses_Against_Minors_Male_Victims_Bring_More_Punitive_Sentences_Than_Female_Victims
Interesting!
The analysis focused on individuals convicted of contact or enticement sexual offenses against minors (n = 380), finding that adult male offenders were sentenced to longer sentences when involved with male versus female victims. When victims were aged 14–17, male victims yielded a median minimum sentence of 30 years, twice that for female victims (15 years). For younger age groups, the difference narrowed. These findings suggest that prejudicial sentencing is not limited to race/ethnicity but also includes sexual orientation.
I have at times noticed insane panic against homosexual "abusers" and energetic police investigations that seem to exceed what they do to girl-lovers but never thought the difference was this large. Twice as large for older teens! Wow, that is powerful evidence that homophobia is a bigger driver than any female sexual trade union and further serves to discredit STU theory as the primary driver of the CSA hoax.
I have wondered where the insane drive to punish homosexuals came from but maybe it never really went away since the days of Oscar Wilde and A.E. Housman? It merely got disguised as “CSA.”
Both Oscar Wilde and Alan Turing have been paroled recently, but that's hardly any consolation for them after what they were forced to go through in their lives.
Let's see if this finding gets any attention outside of the MAP movement, but I doubt it. The LGBT crowd won't care. Since "CSA" is believed to be infinitely bad, there can be no such thing as too long sentences, so discrimination is irrelevant too except maybe they will call for punishing the heterosexuals harder.
So we are talking about getting 15 years extra in prison on top of a victimless crime just because your 14-17-year-old "victim" was a boy rather than a girl. Obviously there is a cultural force at work here and it's not jealous old hags because they are supposed to be jealous of the girls in that theory, not twice as jealous of the boys.
So it's seriously time to move on from such simplistic thinking. Rind does propose a couple of explanations. The idea that homosexuality is “contagious” is one of them, which normies also believe about CSA in general via the “cyclical abuse” myth, both of which myths are debunked well in the article.
The full text is well worth reading. This is a very gay activist piece but I am convinced by the evidence that they really are much more oppressed, so I do feel sorry for them. This is genuine injustice, ON TOP of the already insane war on heterosexual sex. I would not have thought older teenage boys were so insanely overprotected from homosexuals, despite mostly being homosexuals themselves because why else would you have gay sex in your teens? We are not talking about molesting little boys with weakly expressed sexual orientation here, but teens who know what they want.
Double punishment for gays? Hard to believe. There are so few gay cases, could we be dealing here with figures that are statistically not significant (sample too small?).
Even in the US where prostitution is considered war crime, gay and trannie prostitution is largely tolerated, with both prostitute and John not at much risk from law enforcement.
Imagine a Hetero Pride in the style of a Gay Pride, with women flouting their wares along the pageant: unthinkable!
Gay sex-tourists destinations throughout the world now outnumber hetero sex-tourist destinations by a large margin.
Does Rind say something about about female to female cases? Not many such cases around.
I have little patience with gays playing the victimhood card. It flies in the face of what I come across again and again in Today's World. Still, this is something we may keep an eye on for want of better things to do.
The sample studied here are all male imprisoned sex offenders who were serving substantial sentences. In total they were 1175 cases because there are so many pornography offenders who don't seem to be treated differently based on sexual orientation, but the sample of contact offenders was 194 who had girl "victims" and 134 who had boy "victims." This is sufficient to draw statistically significant conclusions. It can't be generalized to all sex offenders in all countries, but the ones imprisoned in the US for a very long time (like 30 years) and have "victims" in the late teens really do seem to be disproportionately gay. I think we have to admit as a fact that the system treats sex with teenage girls comparatively less seriously as long as girls are at least 14. There are still plenty of insane verdicts against straight guys, but gays have it worse, and do remember these are "offenses" against sexually mature "victims" so it's quite surprising that the sentences are so long. How many men serving 30 years for sex with a 15-year-old girl can you think of? There are some, but not so many.
Out of the contact offenders serving long sentences 41% are homosexuals, which is not few and already tells you they are overrepresented because there should be less than 5% if the system were "fair." But really most of the whole sample should never have been imprisoned in the first place -- except maybe the pornography offenders to teach them nofap so they can realize only contact is meaningful sexual behavior.
Do you believe that there’s a possibility that Bruce Rind and his colleagues could be homosexual since they’ve published quite a few papers on “Boys and Men”? A lot of these sexuality writers seem to fall under that category.
I think it is not just a possibility but a certainty that Bruce Rind is a homosexual, as are probably most of his colleagues. Indeed I can hardly name a sex researcher who is not homosexual.
Which goes to show how pathetic my fellow heterosexual men are. We can't protest and not even research!
Doesn't it rather go to show homosexuals are privileged compared to heterosexual? Dissent by homosexuals is victimhood dissent. Dissent by heterosexual is advocacy of pedophilia, rape and "trafficking".
You can see it that way, but the heterosexual underprivilege is self-imposed. We can choose to dissent against the sex laws if we want to; the problem is only I am making that choice.
It's not the homosexuals oppressing us, or the feminists, but the vast majority of men themselves who enforce sex-hostility. Sure, you can measure a difference between men and women but men are themselves so insanely hateful against sexuality that it makes no sense to see it as a battle between the sexes either. The problem is a fundamentally hateful culture and no willingness to become martyrs from the few men who disagree besides Nathan Larson and myself.
I was low-key amazed about the girls Eivind spoke to who were actually protesting with signs, in "meat space" as it is called.
If kids were to start protesting like this on any scale, even if not directly about adult-minor relations but other things like being locked out of social media, then the Overton Window would start to shift. If.
Meanwhile, the closest normies can come is stuff like this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsKfHQ4-DpU, See comments too, eg the top-rated one. The elephants in the room keep being ignored, ie female jealousy or cultural drift, if you like, plus the fact that normal male sexual attraction includes girls considered shockingly young by WEIRD standards.
The video has its merits and in fact I ended up being moved by it, as well as the stories in the comments. As I said though, those elephants just keep getting ignored.
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@ Anonymous Tuesday, June 24, 2025 8:02:15 PM-Yes, all of that is another, less generous but possibly more accurate, way of looking at it lol.
The issue of male loneliness and just generally being viewed as scum isn't entirely about paedohysteria of course-if it was, this dude wouldn't even bring it up. To me, however, it is as though he's moving at 100mph and swerving around elephants with great skill. Same with the comments. I guess being called a predator if you even like sideways at a too-young female has nothing whatever to do with the issues he claims to want addressed. Who'd have thought?
As for the trans "man" I will note that both "he" and Topher make a slip of the tongue. They say "creepy" men are the problem. Does that just not mean anyone who's not Chad Chaddington?
I still consider the video is inadvertently a step in the right direction, even if the speaker is a mangina.
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There's a bit of a resurgence on twitter. Moderation is more lax as long as you don't use trigger words. Managed to hold on to 5 accounts for nearly a year. The blog is good— free, but the reach is dead if you are not on social media. Perhaps you might enjoy some of the posts @UrCarim
Hey Eivind, not sure if my last comment went through. You can find me @UrCarim on X. Perhaps you'll enjoy some of the content. There is a bit of a resurgence over there as long as you don't use trigger words. Be well.
Thanks for your comments, Ake, and good to see you again if you are who I remember as one of the greatest MAPs on Twitter. I've been on that rodeo before and know where it ends, so I'll pass, but others who still have energy for that sort of thing might want to give it a try.
As for me, I'm focused on blogging and developing our own platforms that they can't shut down. It is good if there is a resurgence on social media but I have put effort into banned accounts too many times.
We need to make a some kind of strategy to go after the so called "p3d0hunters" who are to dumb to understand that they are not hunting p3d0s but normal men with their activities. They are going after men who wants to hook up with 14-18 year olds and even older.
Anyone know actual accounts on snapchat or facebook to come in contact with some of these people(preferably in Norway) so they can be trolled hard or even meet up with them. I'm a very fit and strong man who does martial arts, so it could be fun to meet up with some of these wimpy male feminists that call themselves "p3d0hunters".
https://www.nrk.no/rogaland/xl/_pedojeger__-_-det-er-ikke-vold-som-driver-meg-1.17433751
Yeah, reverse sting against the "pedo hunters" is a great idea.
Here's another article a former friend shared on Facebook as an example of what he finds wonderful and thinks should become common in Norway:
https://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/overfalt-av-pedojegere-kan-jeg-fa-finne-tennene-mine-for-de-blaser-bort/f/5-95-2479640
Which tells you all about what kind of monsters they are what they deserve back...
Let's start a group on Session where we share intelligence on the hunters. If anyone replies to this message with only a Session ID, I will add you to the group and not publish the message here.
Since Session is truly anonymous, I expect our reverse sting group to be infiltrated, but that's OK because there is not much of a remedy against a reverse stinger. A reverse stinger meets up expecting the worst, so he is ready to fight, and it's unlikely that the hunters have coordinated well enough to inform a particular hunter group one of us meets up with even if we are infiltrated.
I got a reply with an invalid Session ID. While it is possible to get yourself a vanity ID which looks like a username you can pick yourself, most real session IDs just look like a long string of random symbols. Please try again.
Now we have a group running. And truly secure except it can be infiltrated -- that's the price of anonymity.
But we aren't doing anything illegal. Self defense is not illegal if they attack us. There is also a chance to get media attention for this if something comes of it or it gets popular, similar to what the hunters themselves are getting. This is the kind of drama and mystery and danger that the media would love to report on.
The Lord works in mysterious ways. You never know, perhaps a finally popular sex-positive movement will be reverse stingers against the hunters? If anything is going to work, it's bound to be something less straightforward like this if not a sexualist religion.
The really hilarious thing is that the 18 year-old "pedohunter" in question, involved an actual 14 year-old girl to chat with and send sexual photos to their victim. Obviously, this flies in the face of the narrative that girls that age are all innocent, have no clue what they're getting involved in, and have no power in their dealings with adult men...
If they truly believed "sexualizing minors" was the most horrendous of offenses - how hypocritical don't they seem by involving a 14 year-old in this, quite literally asking her to send nudes to an adult!?
It's quite clear to me that this is an offshoot of the sort of stuff you'd see on WorldstarHipHop, LiveLeak etc. That is, people filming fights and beatings in order to (hopefully) get a viral video out of it. The "pedo" angle is just another layer of clickbait, to make it feel more deliciously scandalous.
There is a morbid fascination with older men who are attracted to youth. I have even started to wonder if the focus on "pedophiles" is a way for young people to confront their own fears of aging and mortality? Young people at the moment seem to feel little hope for the future, and more than ever you are considered outdated and irrelevant if you are on the wrong side of 25. All they have is their youth. Perhaps in watching people who violate their bubble of youth get punished for it, they feel some temporary sense of relief, because they get to feel like they exist in a segregated state where age and impermanence can't reach them yet? The "order" is restored, and they get to feel safe from the haunting prospect of adulthood and uncoolness for a little while longer.
The real problem is "de-sexualizing teens".
Yes, I get the sense that Norwegian "pedo hunting" is less ideologically dark and sinister so far than what we witness in the UK and US, though the violence can get serious here too. Here it’s mostly kids jumping on a fad, with the true motivation to get attention on social media and the police not taking them very seriously either.
My group has 100 spaces and we can share intelligence worldwide, including about ongoing police stings in the US which is the most refined, industrialized level of this evil when they entrap hundreds of men at a time and send them to prison for years. It’s a spectrum which manifests a single cultural phenomenon, hunting the witch archetype of our time. Surely the culture is also ripe for a countermovement! It just needs to take a form where men don’t get automatically cancelled from their social status, and an anonymous Session group certainly fits that bill.
It is good that we have two separate branches of the sexualist movement, because I don’t have much in common with the Antifeminist’s version besides opposing the sex laws themselves.
In his latest post here he gets down to the nitty-gritty of our differences:
https://theantifeminist.com/sex-redistribution-fixing-maladaptive-female-sexuality/
Firstly he wants to “fix” female sexuality to be more promiscuous like men in order for men to be satisfied. Well, this falls flat for the same reasons I have presented in this blog post for why “treatment” of “sex offenders” like homosexuals or pedophiles fall flat. While we could imagine new technologies making it “possible,” it would result in the destruction of the original person and thus be profoundly immoral. I do not condone changing women against their will any more than I condone changing men into a feminist ideal where we no longer want what we want now and feel fine with that.
Secondly, if we fail to change women, he suggests that we “bypass real women altogether, and create their sex robot substitutes.” Which, of course, is the wanker’s asexualist ideology that I have explained enough about in the past why it’s an absolutely horrible idea in every way.
Nonetheless, I wish him luck raising awareness against the sex laws. Unfortunately, he does not appear to have attracted a single new reader or at least no commenter who did not find his restarted blog here on my blog, so I don’t think his ideas are more appealing to men including the wankers he tries to cater to the most by imagining a sex robot utopia where women are replaced. Perhaps the wankers aren't really so happy about their wanking after all and deep down seek something meaningful like I am advocating?
Sexbots are the only light at the end of the tunnel. Populations are ageing and will go on ageing more and more. At present we have 10 randy old men and 10 STU hags to 1 doable 16-to-26 female. In 30 years time, what with medecine being so good at prolonging (and so poor a remedying), we will have 20 old men and 20 hags. How many randy old men and STU hags per young female do we need before we realise this is leading nowhere?
Near-perfect sexbots are feasible. They will be better than the real thing, just like lawn mower robots are better than hand-pushed lawn mower. The real thing will be forgotten (as will manual lawn mower).
I share none of the residual AF's optimism about science remedying ageing, none whatsoever. My only optimism is that for a few years still I can exploit Inhomogeneities and inefficiencies in the global sexual market to my own advantage. If and when sexbots realise their full potential, I stop globe-trotting hither and thither, to retire in a country house with a harem of sexbots.
Wow Jack! What a wrong turn you have taken. Easy fix is to see a prostitute. If it's illegal where you are then it's just an even bigger finger in the face of law enforcement. 50% of girls/women you see in the street will f*ck for money.
This dream of a realistic sex robot will never happen, and if it did it would still be a form of masturbation.
Jack, I am perplexed by this attitude that the real thing does not matter or matters so little that there is “light” at the end of the tunnel which leads to sexbots. You may be right that there will soon be almost hopelessly few attractive females to every man, but that does not change the fact that your alternative is worthless. You are OK with just the FEELING of being with an attractive girl rather than actually being with her? This lack of drive towards the real is extremely weird to me. You can choose to see it as liberating, but in my view you have liberated yourself from meaning and chosen wireheading or some such retreat into a fictional world. This is what philosophers call “the tyranny of intentionality” when they want to be sympathetic to your view -- “intentionality” meaning aboutness -- the human tendency to want our experiences to be about something we find meaningful rather than just a pure feeling we could get from a drug or simulation or whatever empty cause like that. If the intentionality is about a sexbots rather than a girl then you have “liberated” yourself from the tyranny of intentionality except I don’t see it that way -- I think you have given up on what it means to be human, literally given up on the meaning of life.
Another point regarding a recent blog post of his, the idea that porn can’t be bad because it does not really cause an “addiction” which the AF thinks is some sort of “gotcha” argument against my version of male sexualism…
https://theantifeminist.com/the-bbc-fact-checks-porn-addiction-and-comes-to-a-surprising-conclusion/
This is like scanning the brains of homeless people, finding no evidence of “homelessness addiction” and declaring they don’t have a problem and so we no longer need to make any policy decisions or provide welfare to combat homelessness.
In other words, it is irrelevant. A straw man argument against something I never claimed in the first place. My case against porn does not depend on an addiction model, but rather opportunity cost: the fact that masturbation is maladaptive, undesirable behavior which pulls you away from the girls you could have had.
Porn may or may not also be said to be addictive in some cases, but that’s beside the point. I never claimed to be addicted and that’s not why I got into nofap. If you end up using something far in excess of what you intended and you have trouble quitting, then you may reasonably be said to be addicted no matter what the neuroscience says, but again it is beside the point because the point is sex is good and substitutes are bad.
Wankers have a cope against the opportunity cost argument too by imagining that porn does not detract from real sexual behavior and perhaps even enhances it, but this is plainly insane. You can’t do both at the same time or get the time you spent wanking back so you can use it to pursue girls, you can’t make the male refractory period go away, and most importantly you can’t maintain peak libido and drive to act IN THE REAL WORLD if you deplete it with porn and masturbation.
It would be great if the reverse sting group got some momentum.
I presume that meeting up with someone where you suspect it being p3d0hunters is not illegal under the grooming laws even though you have made it look like you wanted to meet a 14 y.o. girl. I would risk it anyway and also it would be a great defense for anyone actually meeting up with a 14 y.o.
"I presume that meeting up with someone where you suspect it being p3d0hunters is not illegal under the grooming law"
I literally don't think that's covered by the law, no. I believe the law refers to intentions rather than what you say and if your intention is to mess with pedohunters then they can’t use the grooming law. I can see myself running afoul of other laws that way such as premeditated murder, but not a sex crime.
It is actually easier to meet actual girls than to meet p3d0hunters. Somehow my desire to meet p3d0hunters is higher than meeting girls right now, LOL.
Just remember; Never send- or ask for nudes. If you do you are a loser.
I like to have my ideas tested by the smartest people arguing for the opposing side and I do not shy away from earnest debate.
With feminist notions of abuse where consensual sex with young teens is supposed to be traumatizing, no one has come close to giving a smart argument.
But what I just said about the tyranny of intentionality is different because Jack does have a smart philosopher on his side for the view that feeling is more important than meaning, that we can dispense with real, beautiful women if we have another way to get the wonderful feelings they provide just like we don’t miss pushing lawnmowers around when we have robots. His name is Andrés Gómez Emilsson, director of the Qualia Research Institute, and you can see him in this interview for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBP8WZpYp0Y&t=7203s
I don’t agree with him, but it will take more thought and time than I have for commenting right now to provide a good formulation of why. For now I just want to expose us to his arguments because it is by being fearless to anything out there which may contradict my views that I discover the truth and hone my own arguments. There is also a podcast on Spotify titled “The Tyrannny of the Intentional Object” with the following abstract from which you can get a quick sense of his reasoning:
In this episode, we explore the difference between happiness and meaning, and why so many people believe that meaning is better than happiness. We discuss the concept of "the tyranny of the intentional object", which refers to the tendency for the mind to believe that what it wants is semantically meaningful experiences. In reality, what we want under the surface is to avoid negative valence and achieve sustainable positive valence states of consciousness. We explain how evolution has "hooked us" on particular sources of pleasure in such a way that this is not introspectively accessible to us, and how this often results in us failing to recognize our own addictive tendencies. We also provide our current thoughts on the nature of meaning, explaining that it is made of "felt-senses" that have particular properties, such as high levels of intention, coherence of attention field lines, and a high potential to affect valence. We caution against meaning abuse, and advise listeners to take advantage of opportunities for high levels of meaning, but not to rely on them and think they are universal.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2hGPqnURiU3KXLqRPyCud9?si=7fddcea94cb74121
Here are some preliminary thoughts. In a nutshell, Andrés Gómez Emilsson claims that what we think of as meaning (intentionality) is an illusion. What we actually want is to feel good (valence), and we are fooling ourselves when we value meaning (such as women being real rather than porn or robots) over valence. The “meaning” is actually a disguised kind of valence in this view, not necessary if we can get the same valence some other way.
He also claims meaning can’t exist in relation to time. All we have is the present moment of feeling (qualia) and all that is good about those qualia must be contained in that moment, not be supplied by an extra “meaning.” And this is where it gets iffy because all it takes to knock his theory down is a belief in a soul which is on a journey. It also ties in with the metaphysics of the Idiotic Conundrum which I have blogged about on several occasions previously. You have to be either an empty individualist such as a Buddhist to agree with Emilsson, or an open individualist such as a Hindu. Closed individualists or first-person realists would beg to differ.
There is much more to say about how he might be wrong, but I need to think more first.
It's "morbid" because it's a viewpoint pushed by jealous women and feminized men, which are the majority of the population at the moment.
anon69
That is fucking awesome. Weird Science!
anon69
100% of girls/women fuck for money, retard. They just have different asking prices.
anon69
Why don't you update your bio to highlight the fact you are a paedophile now?
You can't please everybody. Some are evidently upset both because I am a pedophile and because I am not pedophilic enough at the same time, lol.
I think I am just the right amount of pedophile. Happy to be labeled that way; don't need to go out of my way to telegraph it.
Someone who is afraid to be called a pedophile -- such as the Antifeminist -- is bootlicking normie morality and still trying to please the normies and letting the normies judge him even though the normies have rejected male sexuality. I don't play that game.
"It would be easy to do a reverse sting on these paedocrites. At least easy in the sense they would fall for your (jail)bait, but it would take some time and dedication. Just pose as a 15 year old girl who wants to ‘help them to catch pedos’. Then slowly get sexual with them."
Dear Eivind,
please take this advice to heart.
Instead of going to have a conversation with these pedohunters that will be futile at best and very bad at worst, catch them being pedocrites and expose them. You don't have to turn them over to the police, obviously, because we don't believe in the ridiculous sex laws.
But you can ruin them completely and make them look like the deranged fools they are. I'd give it a 90% chance of success. That's 9 out of 10 pedocrites you can permanently destroy using the method above.
anon69
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