"Consorting with prostitutes was forbidden, of course, but it was one of those rules that you could occasionally nerve yourself to break. It was dangerous, but it was not a life-and-death matter. To be caught with a prostitute might mean five years in a forced-labour camp: not more, if you had committed no other offence. And it was easy enough, provided that you could avoid being caught in the act."At the time I did not yet think Norway would go so far as to criminalize this, so it wasn't so much the politics -- but the scene made an impact on me mostly because the woman turned out to be old:
"It was on a dark evening, in a narrow side-street near one of the big railway stations. She was standing near a doorway in the wall, under a street lamp that hardly gave any light. She had a young face, painted very thick... I went with her through the doorway and across a backyard into a basement kitchen. There was a bed against the wall, and a lamp on the table, turned down very low. She... What he had suddenly seen in the lamplight was that the woman was old. The paint was plastered so thick on her face that it looked as though it might crack like a cardboard mask. There were streaks of white in her hair; but the truly dreadful detail was that her mouth had fallen a little open, revealing nothing except a cavernous blackness. She had no teeth at all... When I saw her in the light she was quite an old woman, fifty years old at least. But I went ahead and did it just the same."Sex with an old woman is, well, dystopian. Here it is a dystopia on top of a dystopia.
Sherley Stelfox in 1984
In the movie Shirley Stelfox is "only" 42 but she sure does the trick of looking old. Incidentally she is a year younger than John Hurt who plays Winston Smith. Middle-aged men do not typically seek out women the same age for pleasure, so we can all agree it looks dystopian, can't we? Not so dystopian as if she really had been over 50 as in the book, and she has her teeth in the movie, but still...
While doing test-shoots and improvisation for Norwegian Offspring I had the same feeling with a prostitute who is similarly past her expiration date. I didn't get the role but I participated in some of the casting and rehearsed the scene with the actress who made me feel just like Winston -- while the director didn't seem to get how discordant this looks and also mixed in other deranged nonsense that I won't bother to mention here but you can read about in my blog post about that film.
Women over 35 are officially reproductively geriatric and over 40 they are in the grandmother demographic and over 50 there is hardly any sexual appeal left. They make fine grandmothers but when you are expecting an attractive woman -- for example because you are even prepared to pay for it -- they are jarringly out of place. I suppose men manage to stay married to them by not expecting an attractive woman and mostly not having sex either, plus it helps to have an actual family to show for it.
One of the benefits of being a bachelor is I don't have to pretend any old women are sexually attractive. I can be honest like Orwell and also Shakespeare when he has Hamlet tell Gertrude:
"You cannot call it love, for at your ageOld people will still use the language of romantic love to describe their relationships, but it is not the same thing -- with one important exception. I reckon the heyday in a perimenopausal or older woman's blood is tame regardless of who she can pick as her lover and likewise from his point of view, but as a man the same age I can attest that the heyday in my blood is still perfectly lustful if I can get a young woman! A man's only as old as the woman he feels, as Grouch Marx put it.
The heyday in the blood is tame."
The silver lining in 1984 is that Winston also gets a beautiful young girlfriend half his age, Julia, played by 23-year-old Suzanna Hamilton. He flipped those numbers just like I am on a mission to do. Even in a dystopia where all sex and certainly all sexual enjoyment is criminalized you might still score a personal victory. That's what keeps me going in life despite knowing that the political situation for male sexuality is only set to worsen in my lifetime and having lost all hope of finding ANYONE who will publicly identify as an ally in Norway or help me reach the two-person minimum for registering a nonprofit to fill this complete vacuum of any kind of pro-sexual organization. The last organization to work in favor of sexuality instead of against it like they all do now was in fact dissolved in 1983, making Orwell even more uncannily prophetic. Today it is beyond the pale for anyone to even admit having been a member! What are the odds of me being so alone? We know the odds are one in five million but it is true; unlike other malcontents who are usually far less original than they think I can quantify it so precisely as unmistakably falling outside even the 68-95-99.7 rule which puts me at four or more standard deviations from the norm! I am the outlier heretic whom the normies can and do treat as nonexistent for all intents and purposes.
At my age and time I am living in a dystopia within a dystopia and neither dystopia is recognized in the mainstream outside my movement of one unless you read great literature and pay attention to what it actually says, in which case both realities reassert themselves both in flouting the oppressive sex laws and attraction to youth.
This is why I have to laugh when our governments via their NGOs put out propaganda like this....
"While the “hitting the wall” trend clearly perpetuates harmful stereotypes and actively contributes to the egregious objectification and devaluation of women, we are seeing it beyond the confines of YouTube. In incel communities, the notion of "hitting the wall" is burgeoning as a persistent and menacing ideology within male supremacist spheres whereby they place a higher value on younger women and girls. This pedophilic-type mindset can be seen on sites like Incels.is that unabashedly refer to girls as young as 12 as objects of desire. This concept is also used to undermine women’s perceived power in sexual/romantic relationship contexts, as these male supremacists ironically imbue women with supreme power/authority over men (by determining which men will be validated as masculine and sexually successful and which ones will not). Simultaneously, these male supremacists want to revoke and undermine this power as only temporary and contingent on women who maintain sexual desirability. The ‘wall’ is meant to emphasize that self-actualized, empowered, independent women are actually less desirable than young, naive, virgin girls and women."Oh, the incels invented the concept of women hitting the wall, did they? Just wait until our government-funded propagandists of orthodox thinking on sexual morality discover our cultural heritage of art and literature, but all that is willfully ignored in favor or the new cultural "truth" that only an ultra-deviant "male supremacist" or "pedophilic-type" would think anything of the sort. I would call it a female sexual trade union like the AF clique singlemindedly obsess over aside from the fact that THERE IS NO NOTABLE MALE OPPOSITION, unless you want to call me (or the AF) notable, or at least call the incels notable, which they are not as anything but a subject of derision. This is an elephant in the room that needs to be addressed, sincerely.
Have we as a culture started to "value" older women as much as we always valued nubile women? I would encourage sincere thoughts on the matter in the comments. We certainly devalue male sexuality by how it is criminalized and hunted by vigilantes too. But is there a greater corresponding valuation of older women despite the biological fact that they are not so reproductively valuable? This hypothesis could be tested in various ways. For example, if 50-year-old prostitutes are now very much in demand, that would be some weighty evidence of a profound cultural change rather than the superficial one I still think it is. I doubt it, but I keep an open mind.
One thing I am sure of is that men bear much of the responsibility in one way or another for what I alone regard as an antisexual dystopia. At the very least they somehow DON'T CARE that these are our values and laws and propaganda. As it stands now I am not so much an antifeminist as a misanthrope. I am close to giving up on activism altogether and just focus on my personal goals as noted because no one is receptive to my ideas. After 25 years taking sexuality's side I not only failed to change anyone's opinion but didn't even make anyone think, if they didn't already agree with me, which only one in a million does, all of them too cowardly to be public about it either. Ever increasing criminalization of sexuality is unquestioningly accepted by every last normie and there is nothing we can do about it, so the best we can do is shut up and break the sex laws in private like everyone else because they are hypocrites too. Nonetheless, if men go and break the sex laws and on top of this insane feminist dystopia that we got ourselves into tend to willingly choose a 50-year-old whore to risk going to the forced-labor camps for, well, then I shall stop calling them hypocrites too.
I can't pretend I am representing anyone when there is no longer anyone to represent. So if you want to be represented by a sexualist movement, speak out!


8 comments:
Orion Taraban of the PsycHacks YouTube channel still thinks men of any age prefer to date 18 to 24-year-old women...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o5SLCoizWho
He's a fresh new voice, surprisingly reasonable while keeping his finger on the pulse of our times, so I trust nothing has really changed then. I haven't seen him take any bullshit from the feminists about male psychology and present it as "truth." Not about female psychology either like the teen brain immaturity nonsense.
I am close to giving up on activism altogether and just focus on my personal goals as noted because no one is receptive to my ideas.
Is it incompatible ? (writing and living normal live). You are not installing bombs into NGO staff or prosecutor's cars or something like that(Not that I am saying you should do.). I mean, your identity is public now and it won't disappear anyway if you cease activity in this field. Your opinions won't go elsewhere either I think.
Maybe you should try to not take it so seriously.
BTW: (I am not trying to be smartass, and I appreciate what you are doing-despite different opinions on some issues ) Did you try to look at this blog from POV of not necessarily "normie" but rather person (with average or slightly above average IQ) who is starting to have some doubts about present-day society?
MH
Yeah, I'm not taking activism so seriously anymore, but when I got into Newgon I thought getting to the level where we could have an organization (which only requires two people) was within reach. It turns out no one else in Norway wants to join an organization like that, so I can't register it. But I shall soon get over that disappointment as well.
I shall write when I feel like it, but I realize writing is not the sort of thing that can do anything. Not anymore. Bloggers don't go viral because the writing was so good that somebody felt like sharing it, even if they are very good. I have no hope of reaching anything like this level in my lifetime, but as successful as you can get is somebody like John Michael Greer, who at least makes me want to share some of his work. He has written yet another post on the Situationists which is highly relevant to us. It modifies the "1984" paradigm somewhat and reaffirms what I have been saying and even Orwell shows that we can usually get away with breaking the sex laws. We just have to snap out of the relatively weak spell cast on the normies and turn our own much stronger magic on ourselves: "As every real mage knows, the most potent of all forms of magic are those that the individual works on himself." A better anti-dystopian novel would explore this kind of magic and be more closely aligned with our times.
https://www.ecosophia.net/situationism-the-road-from-raswashingsputin/
Most industrial societies in the modern world no longer bother with police state tactics in most cases. [Ioan Couliano] described them as “magician states” that maintain the obedience of their populations through methods closely akin to those of Renaissance sorcerers, manipulating the mases through symbols that conjure up desires and hatreds, luring them into thoughts and actions that benefit the system at their own expense.
This isn’t quite as true as it was in 1984, when Couliano’s book first saw print, and of course it wasn’t entirely true even then. Every modern industrial state, even (or especially) those that love to mouth platitudes about democracy, keeps the full arsenal of police state tactics in readiness, and uses them from time to time on visible targets to remind everyone else to stay in line. Most people in modern industrial nations, however, experience what the Marxists of my youth sulkily called “repressive tolerance”—that is, the regime lets them believe what they want and, within fairly broad limits, do as they like, while using control over the media and educational systems to keep alternative ideas from finding a mass following. That leaves a lot of room available for those who want to make constructive use of it...
The evidence of history and my experience alike suggest that you can get away with an enormous amount provided that you do it quietly, don’t call attention to yourself, and avoid whatever activities panic the system into police-state actions.
This basically means don't be a wanker, don't be ritually identified by thinking you have to resist identification like I explained in my last post, and you can get away with anything.
John Michael Greer is quite a surprisingly potent rebel though it is mostly understated presumably because he follows his own advice of not calling that kind of attention to himself.
Interesting reading this website, it sounds familiar to me.
Did you have it on blogroll in past? Where did I see it ?
MH
You probably remember the Archdruid Report which was John Michael Greer’s original blog (and I think I also blogrolled) from back when he was an archdruid. JMG is the world’s greatest living occultist -- a legit wizard! -- but what made him hugely famous was as a peak oil blogger. Unlike the others in that movement he predicted a slow descent over a century or two rather than the catastrophic collapse foreseen by Gail Tverberg and the others which has still failed to happen which made the peak oil movement basically extinct.
He thinks the AI craze is another bubble which won’t save us from collapse either, which will happen slowly and steadily taking us into another dark ages without industrial civilization. If he is right, the good news is it won’t get really bad in our lifetime -- we will still have electricity and such unlike what Gail thinks -- but we can forget about something like AI improving our lives either and there will be crisis upon crisis like we are seeing with all the smoldering wars and political corruption. AI is not solving the energy problem, so nothing has really changed; we can just delude ourselves that the future is looking brighter for a few more moments. But it IS looking brighter insofar as totalitarian governments won’t have as much power to surveillance and control us as we fear either, because they won’t have the resources or technology. So instead of hoping for some kind of utopia or fearing an invincible dystopia either we should practice as much magic as is real to have the best lives now, for which JMG is a great teacher whom I have been following for about 12 years now. I now do believe in magic, properly defined as the art and science of effecting changes in consciousness in accordance with will. When applied to your own consciousness it is the same thing as the pickup artists used to call inner game, which we know can in turn effect changes in others’ consciousness too and help us get what we want. And it is unbelievably powerful against the police since most of their power is predicated on people believing they will get caught.
So Ecosophia.net is pretty much a continuation of the Archdruid Report. If you loved the Archdruid Report you will love Ecosophia too and it does, I think, show the limits of how popular a blog can be these days. Which is very if you are such a good writer as John Michael Greer and don't say anything which will overtly get you cancelled -- but that still leaves room to be spectacularly subversive for those who take time to digest your essays.
But it IS looking brighter insofar as totalitarian governments won’t have as much power to surveillance and control us as we fear either, because they won’t have the resources or technology.
Question is how much is "as much".
Even present-day surveillance technology without AI is pretty scary to me, if it would be used to it's full potential.
We've discussed something like that in past, but I cannot grasp how exactly some collapse (that could destroy surveillance state) should happen.
Except some advanced AI (which is allegedly power consuming), surveillance systems seems quite undemanding of resources, and system of repression could be reformed to be less financially burdening.
Major problem IMO is that,knowledge of such technologies already exists.
Regarding this, my hope (however unlikely it is) that some natural/physical conditions would change, so these systems won't be able to work-which could result in other ramifications however.
MH
Yes, it’s hard to imagine that our technology will go away. Just like the ancient Egyptians probably thought they would be building pyramids forever and the Romans couldn’t imagine that they would quit building or maintaining aqueducts. But the fact of the matter is our advanced technology is no more “alive” or self-sustaining than pyramids or aqueducts. Despite the wet dreams of true believers that it’s right around the corner, we have no clue how to make AI autopoietic. Even if it attained the motivation, it cannot replicate itself in any more than a superficial way of how it runs code at best, and there is no evidence that that leads to much improvement either. AI has no control over the physical basis for its existence and none of our non-biological technology replicates itself. Getting to the next generation of NVIDIA chips requires as much human labor as building a great pyramid and it cannot be done without that huge input all coming together via a functional economy which believes in growth and supplies all the energy and raw materials. You should think of your smartphone as more like a great pyramid than a cheap disposable device because you can’t get a new one without such a megaproject. Sure, progress can be scaled back and we can go on with something resembling the current level of technology for a long time for those who can afford it. That’s precisely what John Michael Greer’s long descent consists of. Major innovation will become unaffordable for anyone since it requires a megaproject but there will still be our level of technology hanging around for at least the elites for a century.
It is still scary in many ways, but when I see how obtusely the authorities go about wielding their high-tech power -- by preferentially persecuting wankers, for example, and the fact that I am still able to publish these ideas in the mainstream -- I think “repressive tolerance” is really a better way describe the regime we are in for than a full-on 1984 dystopia. Also I still think there is a chance the descent will be much more rapid almost like Gail Tverberg envisions and governments will be hard-pressed to keep up their repressive tolerance either.
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