I am the heretic you can hate in an effortless collective way, with full institutional backing. When you don’t try to be a reformer or heretic, all that energy becomes available to you for other uses. Going with the stream means accepting everything with equal detachment because you are the stream. The normies who never think for themselves are always backed by the stream, so everything they do becomes that much easier. When you spend no energy hating, you even have more energy to hurt your enemies, and those who do not publicly oppose the sex laws have more occasion to break them. If I had always flowed with the stream I would probably have been a normie with respect to career and socioeconomic status as well. As such, I chose stupidly.
Or did I?
I made a valid point there, because the economic consequences of being a persona non grata in society are extremely crippling when you also don't qualify for any sort of pension, which I likely won't for another 20 years.
But upon further reflection, there is an important sense in which the opposite perspective is also valid.
Because I swim with the stream of my biology and psychology, which is extremely liberating. I feel in harmony with a larger stream than contemporary society and its peculiar quirks of the moment. In return for my momentary heresy I feel in harmony with history, like the sexual practices of Egon Schiele's day and Epstein's too before society turned on him from 2004.
Since I am egosyntonic and do not participate in the witch-hunt against male sexuality which I fully acknowledge as my own sexual nature, I feel a sense of ease and wonder that the normies lack, part of something greater and kinder which is not entirely lacking under the surface in the present either.
Also unlike most normies I swim with the stream of civilizational collapse instead of trying to hang on to our absurdly unsubstainably affluent lifestyle. Ever since I got immersed in the Peak Oil scene about 2014 I have been well aware of energy issues -- inspired by people like John Michael Greer, Gail Tverberg and Chris Martenson. Learning that the next stage of civilization is collapse was as shocking to me as anybody, but I am long done grieving over that now and can just flow with the descent. Since I own nothing, no wealth can be taken from me anyway by financial collapse. Of course it will be unpleasant for me to starve it comes to that, but the relative boost to my status from the normies also being dragged down to that level seems to me a net positive.
The Peak Oil movement was never quite relevant when it was going the strongest, but now with the Iran War it definitely is. To future-proof this post I should add that this might still be a dress-rehearsal and not the real peak oil crisis, but if so they better get that strait opened fast.
As of yet it looks like my collapse mindset will serve me well, and I don't regret my sex-positive disposition either.
So let's flow with collapse and true sexuality together and discuss these issues here. Despite all my marginalization there is a magic to it since my comment section never fails to fill up, which means I am indeed connected to a larger stream. Though it may be invisible to the mainstream at the moment these heresies are still alive and easy to find for those who bother to pay attention, with no substantial restrictions on our freedom of speech yet.
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Eivind, you should try out the stock market. It is very easy and you can start with a very low amount. With your analytical mind you can make money investing. Myself I invested just NOK 6000,- 3 months ago and earned NOK 30000,- as of now just on that one investment. I have doubled my money on other stocks that I have re-invested and so on.
I am not allowed to own anything. If I had any assets, it would be deducted from what I get for basic living expenses the next time I have to apply for it, which is every month or two (they check your bank statements and everything). So it works out to a 100% marginal tax on all income and savings even if I managed to invest a small amount with some returns.
When you are so poor, all forces conspire to keep you there.
Gifts and inheritance work the same way. For example I said no to a small inheritance from my grandmother because it would be taken away all the same. When the richest man in Norway gets a gift, of course he gets to keep it in addition to all he has, but when you are the poorest, it gets taken away 100%.
It is the Matthew Principle in action. You can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps because you can't own anything: bootstraps are forbidden. For most Norwegians who are so poor at some point it only lasts a few months until they get either a job or some kind of higher benefit without these restrictions, and even refugees get much more instantly, but for me it is for life (or old-age pension, which will be minimal, but luxury compared to this). I don't know of anybody else in this situation.
Du kan muligvis tjene lommepenge ved at hjælpe Amos Yee, som kæmper ikke kun for pædofile, men også for de fattige:
https://www.amosyee.org/volunteer.html
Amos says:
No pay promised as of now, but in the future if I make money from my content and activism and become rich, I might give you some kind of equity or lifetime royalty for your work, just enough to make you feel happy and not ripped off.
But other than that it's a great opportunity to get into activism for someone with spare time, so thanks for the suggestion.
I need a real income though and soon if I am going to have money while there is still time to do something interesting with it other than paying for a better nursing home or euthanasia.
Eivind, are you perhaps familiar with this famous mystery or at least heard of it? It happened in the Isdalen valley, right outside of Bergen several years before you were born.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isdal_Woman
It’s kinda fascinating since it’s been heavily speculated that she was some sort of spy or a prostitute, but the most likely theory suggests that she was not Norwegian, though possibly of German or Belgian origin.
Yes, I've heard about the Isdal Woman several times over the years. She is the opposite of a missing person; it is most fascinating when a person turns up who cannot be identified. I don't know who she was either but I doubt a prostitute would have eight fake passports, so a spy seems more likely.
In 1970 being a whore was much less problematic and Norwegian men were not criminalized for paying either and in Germany it was a normal job, so she really would not have to go about it like a spy, in which case men wouldn't find her either because how would she advertise and hide at the same time, with no electronic communications? We were so limited and free at the same time, managing to hook up more than people do now, so maybe that's a possibility after all.
Not sexual abuse but Gjert Ingebrigtsen is suing the Norwegian state for prosecuting him for the child abuse of his runner son Jakob. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7237157/2026/04/28/gjert-ingebrigtsen-compensation-abuse-case-jakob/
This murder could have been prevented if not for the CSA hoax and antisex laws:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/29/us/d4vd-timeline-celeste-rivas
Los Angeles — Prosecutors have laid out a detailed and grisly timeline in their case against singer d4vd, who is accused of sexually abusing Celeste Rivas Hernandez starting when she was 13, then fatally stabbing her when she – at 14 years old – threatened to expose their relationship.
Celeste is believed to have been killed April 23, 2025, one day after she and d4vd, whose legal name is David Anthony Burke, had an argument in which she threatened to disclose damaging information about their relationship “to end his career and destroy his life,” according to a filing Wednesday from the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office.
So insane that a normal relationship is suited to destroy his life if it becomes known which gave him this perverse incentive for murder, but of course the normies won't entertain the thought that it could be otherwise. Girls dying as a result of their hysteria is obviously worth it to them, because their supposed metaphysical badness of underage sex is worse than anything that can happen in this world including death.
https://whky.com/former-doctor-sentenced-to-lengthy-prison-term-for-sex-offenses/
I am trying to glean what this doctor is accused of doing. Why is that not considered important to report? Instead we get such meaningless labels:
"felony counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor, felony 1st-degree sexual exploitation of a minor, and felony indecent liberties with a minor"
What, no "rape" or even an "assault" or "abuse"? What the hell is an "indecent liberty with a minor"? Only the "secret peeping" part is somewhat comprehensible.
Given how exaggerated the wording of sex crimes now tend to be, it must be something extremely trivial indeed.
Nonetheless, he was sentenced to 14 to 43 years, which is a light sentence for anything to do with sex these days, especially if you have the misfortune to be from the most carcereal nation on the planet which the US very much still takes pride in being, apparently.
That’s one of reasons why I am against the death penalty for “rapists” as it would incentivize some of them to kill their victims to cover up their crimes, but the bloodthirsty normies are too belligerent to even consider that as a possibility.
All he did was hide a camera in the bathroom of his house.
Now we see one of the incentives for young girls' support of old hag feminist age of consent laws. This girl knew she could leverage the brutal feminist laws to blackmail her boyfriend to do what she wanted. The laws didn't stop her from seducing him, they only leveraged her position over him.
She also very likely experienced great sexual pleasure as he stabbed her, both due to his infatuation with her, and her knowledge that he would be punished severely due to her own instigation - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11847330/
By the way, if she lived, she would be sexually obsessed with controlling him for the rest of her life. Will anyone ever stop these out of control women in our lifetimes? Since the world seems to be filled with baby boy simps with no understanding of female nature, the answer seems to be no.
anon69
It really sick that BDSM is more accepted by society than sex with slightly underage girls. BDSM is about inflicting pain and fear which is just evil even when it involves consenting adults.
Whether Celeste Rivaz Hernandez was a masochist is speculation. However, we can tell that she was somewhat demanding. She complained “all we do is have sex and just hang out man I want more than that for myself.”
Girl, you are 14, what more do you want? Were you expecting to be married and have kids already? All right, maybe not so unreasonable after all, but it’s not your boyfriend’s fault that society does not allow it these days.
Jordan Peterson says women four years younger are men’s peers, and the age gap here was only five years, so effectively one year. She did not like this rapper because he was older, but because he was young, and rich and famous.
And she wanted him all for herself, just standard jealousy in a standard relationship perverted into motivation for murder by insane sex-hostility.
How the prosecutors claim he “manipulated her” into being “continuously sexually abused” is literal insanity. Society is so twisted by the CSA hoax that we literally can’t look at a normal relationship and see it as it is, because we must inject metaphysical badness and see that instead of reality.
Yeah, she liked him because he was young. If he “manipulated” her, it was by being young, not old. And if she had picked a significantly older man it wouldn’t have been abuse either; it simply would have been less likely that she’d be interested. The only thing right about this case is that they don’t give him a special “Romeo and Juliet” exception because young men don’t deserve to be treated any differently under the sex laws than men my age do: I agree with that and oppose such clauses.
To be honest Eivind. There is no excuse for murder and cutting a girl into pieces. That is some BDSM horror shit that can not be excused or explained by anything. The rapper is a horrible person just like Peter Madsen who also was into BDSM. If you murder and dismember a beautiful girl, or any girl, you don't have the right for explenatoins to why you did it.
Right, I did not excuse the murder. I also don’t think it was motivated by BDSM. anon69 thinks the girl was aroused by being stabbed, but I am skeptical of this hypothesis even though I concede she must have known she was playing with fire when she threatened to expose their relationship. If any of them was into BDSM it was probably her (yes, science bears out that masochistic women exist, maybe more so than men). I think he was simply desperate because the crimes he had already committed are just as punishable as murder if not more so, and he made his calculations accordingly. I do not exactly support his decision. Honestly, I am somewhat neutral to the murder all things considered and my primary interest in this case is to condemn the sex laws, because they are an unambiguous moral evil and the most morally relevant cause of death here.
Threatening to expose was a bad move. It does NOT deserve death, but is not devoid of moral culpability either. We know she can’t be excused by having a “teen brain” or some such nonsense either. She knew what she was doing both when she carried on the relationship and when she made dangerous threats in order to manipulate him (which was probably not intended to give her masochistic thrills but rather just to stop him from seeing other women).
The singer d4vd was not like Peter Madsen by a long shot! Madsen was always gung-ho about sexual violence and murdered a girl as soon as he could get his hands on her; d4vd only killed as a last resort to avoid sex-crime persecution after having a long-term relationship which lasted years without expressing any violent tendency to my knowledge.
We should not support murder of course, but it is possible to take a nuanced view. I fully condemn Peter Madsen and am no fan of BDSM even when consensual. I agree society has it backwards when it celebrates BDSM and makes lovers of underage girls out to be worse than murderers, which became a self-fulfilling prophecy with d4vd as far as I can tell, not due to any inherent disposition.
Putting a link between sex-crimes and murder is something normies always do. Just look at the Epstein-case where people are dreaming up buried murdered girls by Epstein and his crew in the thousands. Even though all it was was consenting sex between two people. And here comes Eivind-supporter 'anon69' and does the exact same thing like any normie.
I like your view on BDSM and Peter Madsen, Eivind. I fully agree that those are despicable sexual activities, even when consensual.
During the Madsen-case, the BDSM community got no hate at all in the media even though one of their own had murdered a young women in what is probably a dream scenario for any man that is into BDSM, all though most dont take it as far as they really want of course. At the same time a beautiful sexual relationship between a man and a slightly young woman is demonized!
We should never write anything that gets us associated with these killers of beauty like 'anon69' does.
The default reaction to "she was manipulated by the older man" is textbook feminism, obviously.
anon69
what the fuck are you talking about, you are very confused.
feminist normies would never agree that women are turned on by violence, or that women learn how to sexually manipulate men from prepubescence, even. normies simply say men are always violent abusers of women, period, that's why the epstein hysteria exists.
educate yourself before you comment again, and choose a handle.
anon69
NY Post throws live bait into the piranha-infested pedohysteria waters: "NYC dad found murdered in Colombia was looking for new bride after his marriage to teenager failed"
Comments on that article, and on twitter, are filled with bitter hags and cucks who now slander this man as a pedophile and celebrate his death for daring to be middle-aged and having an 18 year old wife. These worthless scum are the lowest of the low; they attack anyone who isn't as miserable as they are, because they are enabled by feminists who set the culture and laws.
I'm afraid Eivind is correct: countries defined by extreme violence and poor security are quickly becoming worse for normal men with testosterone, because now, violent gangs can excuse their brutality with feminist-given justifications of "killing pedophiles" and there is less resistance to stopping them from the state.
Ultimately, there is nowhere to run; we must vocally oppose feminists in the West if we wish to maintain any semblance of male sexual freedom.
anon69
'anon69' managed to write this deranged and unintelligent sentence: "She also very likely experienced great sexual pleasure as he stabbed her"
If you want to make a false link between men who actually love teen girls, like I do, and men who like 'anon69' that in his mind finds ways to justify murdering and dismembering of teen girls, then this blog has a big problem!
'anon69' is clearly driven by hatred towards girls or he would not write insane things like that. Eivind and me on the other hand know for a fact that women and their jealousy to teen girls is not the main problem as we know that men takes the main part in demonizing men in anti-pedophile vigilante groups etc. Feminists could never have turned society into this anti-sexual state that it is in now on their own.
I agree with Opptrinn that anon69’s assumption that Celeste likely experienced sexual pleasure at being stabbed goes against the spirit of this blog because of course we are focused on loving girls, not hurting them. Nonetheless, I don't think he hates girls, and he is a highly valued commenter when he shares news of sex tourists who are persecuted and such. He just has a wrong impression of female psychology when he ASSUMES they enjoy violence. This is not without basis in fact -- just look at the research he linked to:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11847330/
I am SHOCKED at how common masochistic sexual fantasies are in women, even among healthy controls who don’t have a diagnosable personality disorder:
Women with BPD (n = 115) and age-matched healthy controls (HC; n = 115) were compared regarding experiences with BDSM and masochistic fantasies, as well as associated arousal and distress…Women with BPD practiced BDSM more often (last year: 34% vs. 15%; lifetime: 51% vs. 23%) which was associated with more autonomous, self-determined forms of sexual motivation but at the same time associated with higher BPD symptoms and risky sexuality. While a similar number of women in both groups endorsed arousal through masochistic sexual fantasies (77% vs. 74%), significantly more of those women with BPD reported associated marked distress (53% vs. 21%). Distress from masochistic fantasies was associated with less autonomous sexual motivation, in which sexuality is used in order to regulate emotions and self-esteem, and was predicted by the interaction of the severity of childhood sexual abuse and this regulation tendency. Conclusion: Sadomasochistic sexuality and corresponding fantasies in women can be an autonomous, self-determined form of sexuality.
But applying it to a random murder victim is taking it too far. We should not make that assumption by default; even if 74% of “normal” women have masochistic fantasies, it’s a far too long stretch to assume they would take it as far as enjoying murder.
Because this blog is dedicated to brutal honesty, I shall now share an anecdote which supports the idea that at least some women DO actually take their masochism that far though.
A while back I was in communication with a 14-year-old girl online. Take with a grain of salt but I am 99% sure she was real. She told me she had this massive enduring fantasy of being stabbed in the stomach. She was actively looking for a man who would fulfill her fantasy and did not expect to survive the experience. She said she would give herself to the man who would do this.
Of course despite the alluring reward I found it totally insane and tried to dissuade her and convince her to go for a man who just wants to make love to girls instead, like me.
But she was dead-set in her masochistic fantasy, and in my judgment, since she said this desire came to her out of nowhere when she was little and she had a good, normal upbringing, I think this was an instance of that autonomous, self-determined form of female sexuality which is not associated with personality disorders or trauma, and perhaps not even associated with distress since that’s only 21% likely in this group according to the science! I certainly could not detect any distress or detachment from reality except her belief that a man could feel fine doing it (she imagined it could be fun for a man to “try something new”), and well, if she could find a man like Peter Madsen that would be true too!
Since we were seeking so different things there was no more communication. For all I know she is dead now. Indeed, her age and timing and desired manner of death makes it possible that she could even be Celeste…
So, I do not dismiss anon69’s claim 100%. I just think we should be extremely careful with making such assumptions, especially because doing so misrepresents the ethos of this blog, as you correctly point out.
Is Opptrinn a troll, because it should be writing Tampon commercials.
anon69
Came across this clip of a decoy from catch a predator reflecting back on the show years later: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/elZWiWeJa0E
Sounds like it has been weighing on her conscience. A decoy with empathy for the predator means she must have (at least in part) recognized the absurdity of destroying a guys life over basically nothing.
Wonder how common that is?
Former decoy says:
I didn't realize it at the time how taxing it was emotionally and mentally. Years later I'm still emotionally exhausted... Like, over the years I've had my ways of being able to, like, work through it, right? But that's a lot for someone to take in.
That’s an amazing contrast to the official hate that these girls are pushed to promote by psychopaths like Chris Hansen who don’t have to struggle with a conscience. Ironically his predation takes a toll on girls too along with the men for the sake of “saving” imaginary girls from loving relationships like these men were seeking.
And our culture as a whole is every bit as psychopathic as Chris Hansen since he is their hero and we are their object of hatred.
Anyway, this is what I mean by swimming with a larger stream. There is still an undercurrent of genuine humanity waiting to be set free. “Predator hunting” will go down in history as another kind of witch-hunt that we can’t believe people were stupid and evil enough to believe in when we snap out of the CSA hoax.
No Opptrinn is not a troll. Opptrinn is a guy from Norway who's been following Eivind for a long time since Eivind was invited to debates at Norwegian universities before he was arrested because the anti-sexualist forces in the police could not handle someone speaking against them. The police is such a big force that they can shut someone up forever even if the person never did anything criminal/illegal. I know Eivind dont believe this, but it is true. So Eivind needs to get on Substack and write.
'anon69', 'Jack' and all the other followers that clearly hates girls in stead of loving them with passion is not followers a brilliant guy like Eivind needs.
Get on Substack. Interact with other people than women-hating and BDSM enthusiasts like those guys. Go on Substack and tell people that the love of teens from older men is actually a very romantic and beautiful thing and not at all creepy or scary. Being interested in-- and commenting on a murder and dismembering of a teen girl with anything else than hatred against the perpetrator, is just anti-sexual and girl-hating behavior which only the BDSM-freaks that follow you can get on board with.
this fucking dweeb is in love with a dead bitch who was more than happy to use feminist sex laws to drive a man to insanity by threatening to credibly end his life. do yourself a favor and shut your mouth, you haven't seen a vagina in decades (if ever).
anon69
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqRLuYkYDk&ra=m
What a garbage video this is!
Again anon69 shows his hatred against young girls and women, calling the 14 year old that was killed and dismembered by a black guy who is into the lowlife so-called music called rap, a "dead bitch".
What kind of language is that? I love this blog and I respect Eivind very much, but talking in that way about dead and dismembered young girls is very far from what I stand for. Onan69 clearly hates girls.
Please Eivind, I know you do not agree with people like onanist69 or anyone else that almost celebrate the murder of a teen girl, right? This movement is about standing up for our right to love teens and for teens to love us. It is not about hating girls or celebrating murder of them.
Were you aware that anon69 was an actual sadist, Eivind?
No, I am not aware anon69 is a sadist. I already said I disagree with him about Celeste being a likely masochist, but that's not the same thing, is it? I get the impression that he laments this personality trait in women much like I do.
I already said she didn’t deserve to be murdered and I don’t call her a bitch, but I don’t fully worship her either after she threatened to expose their relationship. Most girls don’t do this. Those who do accuse tend to have either turned into a different person such as an old feminist hag or they are false accusers, not real girlfriends who suddenly decide to be a “victim” (which she didn’t tell him she was either; she just thought she could use the power that comes with instigating a witch-hunt from a public who would see it that way).
Women often play with fire when they egg men on to turn violent. At the same time, if law enforcement makes no distinction between sexual victimless crime and murder in terms of jail sentence, sexual abusers have no incentive not to kill their victim. The incentive is actually to kill the victime in order to get her out of the way as a witness/accuser. I remember a German minister making this sensible point 15 years ago on German TV after the populace had been demanding life imprisonment as a matter of course for child kidnapping.
'Jack' is also known to hate women and girls, just like onan69. Much like 'the Antifeminist' that used to comment here, they both try to justify murder and dismembering of girls/women. It would not surprise me even a little bit if all of them are into the abomination that is BDSM and are spending their days looking at that kind of porn.
you don't have to use a handle anymore, no one else writes anything this retarded.
anon69
Get on Substack Eivind and write. Leave the sadists onanist69 and Jackoff behind. These followers that mainly just hate girls are not worth anything. I know you are a brilliant guy, so get on Substack and be a commentator and a voice and earn money at the same time. I dont know why you are so devoted to writing for your BDSM following consisting of onanist69, Jack-off and the Antifeminist virgin.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/the-simpsons-al-jean-michael-jackson-episode?srsltid=AfmBOor53fCzTO0a4fkzMFmibMT53o-xX2Za6vjwpMEs_62F7SVn9sj6
What timeline are we living in now?
Just look at Michael Tracey, Eivind. He makes a living writing on Substack and he is somehow controversial too. I just feel that you need to get out there with your brilliant mind and your writing skills while at the same time earning some money. Neither Jack or onanist69 understand what you're actually saying. They are here just because they think this a place to hate on women, which it is not.
I think I have already risen to the level of fame I “deserve” as a writer and activist, based on what potential audience is out there. My writing hits the mark with a tiny group including the ones you unfairly denigrate and not many more. Getting on Substack will do nothing to change that because them promoting me (assuming they would even be willing to do that) can’t conjure up an audience which does not exist. If it existed, they would find me here already, which some do based on googling and such, but I have learned by now that there is no significant untapped audience for these ideas.
I watched Robert Lindsay struggle to get a handful people to pay one dollar each for membership, and he’s a better writer than I am and less hated. I would do worse than him there. Sure, if you are already a professional, published writer such as Michael Tracey or Simon Webb then Substack works for them, but it won’t take me to that level.
It's not often we get to hear good news or justice, but I have some, finally. I checked on the story of that leading sports coach who was sent to prison for 25 years in Tennessee for paying a 14 year old teenage prostitute he coached for nude pics and used clothing, the one who went to a "therapist" and conveniently blamed all her problems on him which destroyed the whole institution.
Well, the dumb corrupt bitch and her family hired a big mouth lawyer and sued the US Fencing Association, thinking they could finally cash out on their scheme. And they lost the lawsuit! Now, all the sexual shit she willingly did with the coach is out in public, and she gets nothing (extra) for it in return. Nice!
https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/tennessee/tnmdce/3:2022cv00560/91303/174/0.pdf
anon69
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFaW2Tn6s-0
Another day, another accusation.
"Teacher accused of raping two students."
"He took their innocence.... and [retroactively when accused many years later] destroyed the community."
"I was groomed to believe that what I was experiencing was love" says "victim" now in her 30s.
So once again we have a metaphysical invalidation of love and rebranding into rape. How did this voodoo work? By pet names like "little Melissa" which worked mind-control on the 17-year-old girl because we are to believe she had no will of her own with regard to sexuality. She was just an empty-headed vesicle of abuse. How do such brainless individuals manage to get up in the morning and find their way to school, I wonder? Not to mention that they would be incredibly easy to control and there should never be any disciplinary problems ever with teens of they are so docile.
The public should be offended that this nonsense is foisted on them. It would insult their intelligence if they had any. But sadly the CSA hoax is a trance which makes them infinitely gullible on the subject.
Citycrusher reading the "pro-male manifesto" which reads more like the virgin manifesto due to the fact they ignore that sex with young, hot, nubile teens is one of the great pleasures of a man's life. Constricting that sex by demonizing male sexuality is the most evil and cruel thing that feminists have done to men.
The pro-male collective manifesto says that men's reverence for women is irrational. No, you virgin incels, sex with nubile teen girls brings joy to a tough life. All you have to do is push against feminist criminalization of normal male sexuality to be successful, since you already cover the other issues.
Why not acknowledge the delicacy of nubile teen girls, then work to manage it properly? Decriminalizing sex work, decriminalizing porn, lowering the legal ages of sex work and porn, lowering the general age of consent, celebrating young sluts and recognizing their positive contribution to society, getting young men laid as early as possible to promote healthy male sex lives, removing the stigma from older men and younger women to promote healthy society; all of these goals not only promote the greatest benefit to men, they destroy the greatest power of the jealous, barbaric feminists. There is a reason the suffragettes raised the age of consent immediately upon gaining power - they knew this was the key to securing lifelong anti-male culture and old hag power.
Any men's movement that doesn't promote sex with young teen girls as a major issue, let alone doesn't acknowledge it at all, is doomed to fail and gay and retarded.
anon69
Regarding the idea that “men’s reverence for women is irrational,” yes, I have to wonder whatever happened to the libido of whoever says this.
I don’t revere middle-aged and old women either, but how can you fail to notice young women? Reverence for young women is not misplaced and teenage girls are downright worth worshiping. A “pro-male manifesto” which fails to take such feelings into account as rational and proper is obviously an misnomer because what can be more central to masculinity than our love of nubile girls?
A real pro-male manifesto would acknowledge how important our sex drive is and come up with appropriate goals accordingly. Your list is very good except I don’t agree with promoting porn on this basis since it works against our sexual goals (decriminalization is still the right thing to do though, but porn should be discouraged somehow).
Worshiping? Absolutely not. Simping gets us nowhere, least of all into a pair of panties. This should be obvious, have some self respect!
Revering, respecting, desiring to fuck nubile teen girls, and managing society to meet this need - this is healthy. It's a balance that is completely destroyed right now.
anon69
Worshiping might not the best word. I agree it sounds too passive and unconditional. Maybe it helps if I rephrase to meaning of life. I only worship girls who give themselves to me, not just for being girls. (The latter is what wankers do and I’m a nofapper.)
My meaning of life is the normies’ moral panic and I don’t mince words about this conflict, which is as uncompromising as it sounds. This is how the personal gets political for men and a “pro-male manifesto” which shies away from the conflict just when we need activism the most is toothless, balless, failing to capture the meaning of life or stand up for men. Perhaps not THE meaning of life for ALL men, but certainly one readily apparent meaning of life obviously worth fighting for. Having a “men’s rights movement” which ignores extreme antisexual persecution of men is one of the stupidest ideas of all time, but that’s what it turned into.
I think Freud was right that the libido is the fundamental life-force and all other pursuits are diversions. That’s how I experience it, sex as the one true drive and of course it finds its purest expression in our love of nubile girls. So… my idea is not exactly original, but admitting where our life-force is most intensely directed has become taboo.
Men’s rights is sexual rights. I would stand up for the homosexuals too in times when they are persecuted, as I’m sure they experience their life-force as similarly non-negotiable.
They really dont see MAPs as human, not at all, to them we are just shapeshifting monsters with a human form, not living breathing people with hopes and dreams and loved ones with a capacity to feel love and connection just like them. We are just a scapegoat to use as a punching bag, “monsters” to write spooky stories about. Was reading reviews on reddit/youtube about an episode called “shut up and dance” from black mirror, about a young adult man who gets blackmailed by vigillantes after getting caught looking at sexy photos of legal minors, he is maanipulated and blackmailed into committing a robbery, assualt, and even literal murder. No of the retarteded antis question the morallity of blackmailing a teenager into commiting literal fucking murder over some fucking photos, they just go “oh em gee, who knew that those creepy evil guys could be teenagers too! They really do hide in plain sight, shapeshifiting monsters, so spooky, eep!” We arent human to them, we are just here for entertainment value to them, like the boogeyman or slender-men, its disheartening how evil humanity can be.
Not one, and I mean, not ONE single person said “hey, maybe making a teenager fucking murder another human being over sexy photos is a liiittttllleee overdramtic” NOPE! Just “erm em gee! The monsters can disguise themselves as young adult teenage men, so spooky, eep!” We arent humans with lives to them, just spooky monsters to tell fun spooky tales about at a sleepover. Fucking bullshit. Only thing that gives me hope is that any time a group of humans has been so thouroughly dehumanized they have bounced back, likes gays and jews and blacks and whatnot. The hysteria never lasts, it always eats itself eventually and reminding myself of that cheers me up
I think you are misinterpreting Eivind, he never said that teenage girls deserved to be murdered, not once. What he is trying to point out is that we live in a society were intergenerational sex is treated as equal or worse than literal death and murder itself by both the law and society as a whole, which gives teenagers social and legal power to blackmail and coerce adults who are involved in these crimes(or even not involved, since false accusations are so common and “innocent until proven guilty” doesnt apply to sex crimes) into their bidding with both the entire legal system and society at their side.
The punishment for intergen sex, or even simply romance or platonic friendship, is HARSH, often even resulting in the older party getting murdered themselves or systemically harassed into suicide, or if they are lucky, given decades and decades and decades in prison and eventually homeless on the street with no job, friends or family, or anything worth living for if they even get released. D4vid is a rich and succesful man, the kind of man with alot to loose, the kind of man who gets punished more severely than other men to “send a message”.
She obiously doesnt deserved to get murdered, but in a society thats set up like this, where playing with some girls tits can be punished with decades in prison, bodily mutilation, or even death itself, she is not an innocent wittle baby princess who accidently toddled up in this scenario. She was a human being with a functioning brain and willpower despite what the goverment and its meatriders may say. To put it lightly, she fucked around and found out. I feel bad for both of them, I obviously condemn D4vid more since he literally murdered someone, but in a society where the punishment for age gap pussy licking is often decades in prison, mutilition, or death itself, I can understand how he was pushed to such desperation and I have a hard time feeling too bad for the girl
Eivind, have you ever notice that so called “csa/sa victims” only spontously appear when it comes time to justify removing basic civil rights? For example, for any other political or legal issue you will never hear any “aS a ViCtIM”, but when it comes to people trying to justifiy gross violations of basic human rights or civil liberties, like goverment funded mass survillance, eugenics, vigillante violence or public exuctions, justifibly everyone will be against it, but when you say “aS a VicTiM, mass goverment survillence is good and neccssary, to protect children from having sex”. “ aS a VicTiM, eugenics is neccssary to eliminate pedos from the gene pool and stop kids from fucking. “ aS a VicTiM, vigillante violence is good because it sends a message to the pedos about how evil kiddie orgasms are”. “ aS a VicTiM, public excutions are moral and justified because, the pedos!1!1!”. “ aS a VicTiM, torturing and murdering people is good and wholesome as long as they get boners to legal minors”. “ aS a VicTiM, due process and civil rights are unncessary and it should be guilty until proven guilty, because underaged boys are getting handjobs1!1” “ aS a VicTiM, we should have mass goverment sponsered genocide on sexual minorities because this minority sucks kiddie dick so therefore genocide is good”.
Pretty much any gross and barbaric violation of basic human rights can be justified if you claim to be a “victim”, no matter how insane or inane, and not a single person will question your bullshit. And these so called “victims” only appear when it comes to torture, murder, or other violations of basic human rights, never anything that would actually benefit or improve society, only when it comes to justifying violence. I bet all these so called “moral dogooders” would be pro hitler if the victims managed to find a link between judiasm and pedophillia. Also funny how this victim complex only applies to sex crimes, no one is saying that a wife beater or a murderer should get a bodily part mutilated as “punishment” for his crime, because he has “too much testosterone making him aggressive and needs to be castrated”, but a guy who gets involutarily boners to hot young girls or *gasps* plays with their titties is just “too testosterone riddled” and needs to be “controlled”??? One of the many reasons I no longer give a shit about “victims” even if they were actually violently assualted, ( the majority of the time they werent even fucking violently assualted and were willing participants and are just “victims” because the goverment says they are, which adds insult to injury) because feeding into their complex is a purely political tactic used to justify the removal of basic human rights and civil liberties. Seriously, “victimhood” has no other benefit than social and legal privillege, and it only applies to sex crimes, which is why you never see actual victims of actually violent crimes like physical assualt or torture act like this
Speaking of teen girls, the hatred of teen lovers is so confusing, because on one hand, men will say that its normal to be attracted to teens because of evolution and that its not pedophillia, or a mental illness, then two seconds later call another man a pedo for being attracted to teen girls a pedo and mentally ill.
I think it is due to cognitive dissonance, if you point out that teenagers are biologically designed for reproduction, it makes people question why nearly every man biologically evolved to want to have sex with teen girls, and nearly every teen girl biologically evolved to want to have sex with men, but every single teen girl also biologically evolved to be “ruined” and “scarred for life” and “broken” if they have sex with the people they biologically evolved to have sex with.
On the other hand, if you label teen love a mental illness, it calls into the question why 4 billion people, 50% of the human population, are “mentally ill”, and the validity of “pedophillia” as a diagnosis.
This creates a really annoying hypocrisy/cognitive dissonance amongst regular straight men that does nothing but piss me off, they are so close, SO CLOSE to pointing out how retarted the “life ruining kiddie orgasm” dogma is, but turn back at the last second to be pick mes and white knights about how they arent like “other men”
Have you heard of a documentary on youtube called a “a place for pedophiles”? Its basically a prison were child sex offenders are locked up indefinitely after serving their sentence because they have been diagnosed with “pedophilic disorder” and are too “mentally ill” to be let out into the general public. It is a gross violation of human rights and is clearly just a prison, not a “mental hospital” designed to lock up men till they die with the legal loophole of “mental health”. The entire video is disgusting and makes my heart cry, with the interviewer and the staff constantly harassing and antagonizing these men, if this is how bad the staff acts on camera, imagine what goes on when they arent being filmed.
The best way I would describe their behavior is “ragebait” a far cry from the proffesionalism you would expect from actual proffesionals in an actual hospital. The kicker? Literally no one has been “discharged” from this so called “hospital” despite long serving their sentence, because they are too “mentally ill”, and pedophillia cant be “cured”(I constanly try to warn virpeds of why it is so dangerous to frame their pedophillia as an illness, this is why). There was a scene where the interviewer gets a boylover in trouble for a picture of young adult men, he claimed that the men looked “16-18” but the men in the painting where 18-20(the fact that no one can tell the differnece between an innocent 17 year old little boy and an 18 year old grown man yet one justifies indefinte inprisonment or death makes me both laught and cry).
A scene that broke my heart was this guy, happily working on a toy ferris wheel discussing how he hoped to get discharged, the interviwer goes on attack mode that this poor man would ever dare to want to have a fucking life and live in society, and I feel like crying, because this is literally just some guy. Some dude playing with his little miniture ferris wheel, some dude who wants to live a normal life as a regular part of society being antognized and treated like an inhuman monster who eats infants and drinks toddler blood, and why? Because some kid had an orgasm because the goverment said they were allowed to? Its fucking disgusting.
To my fellow MAPs, this is the so called “treatment” and “help” that the antis want to give to you. They dont see you as human and never will to the whole “kiddie orgasms are worse than death” dogma gets kicked in the balls. You are simply a warm(or cold) body for the state to make money off of and justify passing new bills, nothing more. This is part of the reason why I hate castration, aside from the bodily mutilation and the fact that its never done to actual violent men like serial killers and shit, we are TOO SWEET! If anything male pedos need MORE testosterone, not LESS! And I cant even blame them for being scared, because im scared too! But if we were actually hyper violent hyper aggressive psychopaths like the antis painted us as instead of regular ass people, we wouldnt be getting opressed like this thats for damn sure
These fuckers dont care if the children they claim to want to “protect” die because it justifies more draconian and violent punishments and is “proof” of how evil and dangerous orgasms, titty fondiling and dick sucking are.
The more kids are genuinely hurt the more than can scapegoat pedos and strip us of our humanity, the more they strips us of our humanity the more pedos there are that are desperate enough to be willing to hurt others to save their own lives, the more kids are hurt the more they can justify stripping us of our humanity. All suffering and casualties are worth it if it is to fight against “sExUlIzAtIoN”. No matter how “nice” antis seem to act, espcially towards “non offenders/anti contact MAPs”, as long as sucking a kids dick is seen as a fate worse than death itself that justifies the most draconian punishment, it is just that, an act, not genuine in the slightest.
Espcially since year by year, day by day, they are broadening the label of what counts as “sexual abuse” and “victimization”, it is a loosing battle to cater to their bs, we can only win on our terms, not “compromising” (submitting) to them. The virpeders will realize this EVENTUALLY, and when that happens I hope the rest of the community will welcome them if open arms, they need to learn that their sexuality isnt monstorous and the crimes that result in actual injury and death are sensationalized and cherry picked as anti MAP propaganda and even encouraged by our insane society as a justification for more violence
Thanks for excellent, articulate comments by Anonymous!
Reading these graphic accounts of persecution I feel like I am transported back to some historical witch-hunt that we can study as a cautionary tale and thank God we got enlightened, but then it hits me that this is present reality and society is really, seriously practicing this right now. I haven’t seen the documentary, but from reading about civil commitment of sex offender that is exactly what I would expect. The persecution never ends and it does not surprise me that they only made a movie about it to show how it still isn’t as bad as the normies want since the sex offenders still dare to dream about freedom and a normal life that they will never get.
Shapeshifting monsters is a great metaphor too. It illustrates what I have been saying about the supposed metaphysical badness of sex. Society hates an abstraction that can take any shape. It can be a perfectly normal loving relationship and the MAP a good person by any metric but the sex crime label makes it infinitely bad anyhow. When the “offender” shapeshifted into women including young beautiful ones was flabbergasted and it took me decades to get used to. By now I am also used to children themselves being defined as pedophiles and there can’t be any more surprises because the CSA hoax has everyone and everything covered including fictional characters and machines. Normies don’t get surprised either because the embodiment of their bogeyman is just an afterthought to the myth. The abstract object is so overpowering that actual human qualities can’t compete. If the “offender” is highly appealing we still sometimes take notice but even if she is the most beautiful woman in the world the abstraction still wins. A male teenager might give rise to some dissonance too but really has no chance and I am no longer surprised when murder takes a backseat to antisexual persecution.
I remember reading this story on Quora a few years ago.
https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/korean-middle-school-students-drove-homeroom-teacher-demise-curious-stories-y/
South Korean middle school teacher committed suicide over false accusations of sexual misconduct against female students.
https://www.narsol.org/2023/12/the-horrors-behind-sex-offender-civil-commitment-dont-get-sick/
https://www.narsol.org/2024/12/a-prison-by-any-other-name-is-still-a-prison/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_James
15 year old was intelligent enough to hack into NASA, but would be considered too young to consent to sexual activity by today’s standards.
It seems like the standards for innocence and competence are measured completely differently when it comes to sex.
I hate society.
https://x.com/lilyEli888/status/2053846591594013046
Damn, is that Amos Yee getting attacked?
Yes but the attacker is not getting off Scott's free:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/teenager-charged-attack-amos-yee-suntec-city-doujin-market-6112726
So, Amos was assaulted by an 18-year-old foreigner:
Bosco Chun Ho Wang, an 18-year-old Chinese national and Singapore permanent resident, was given one charge each of public nuisance and voluntarily causing hurt... Chun is accused of punching and kicking Yee. These acts, along with shouting, allegedly caused annoyance to the public. If convicted of voluntarily causing hurt, Chun could be jailed for up to three years, fined up to S$5,000, or both. If found guilty of committing public nuisance, he could be fined up to S$2,000.
I am glad there are consequences!
Anyway, luckily it seems Amos wasn't seriously injured. I reckon he will take this in stride and go right back to activism just like he did with all previous setbacks.
Amos Yee did not even fight back. A true proud girl-lover would fight back and do some harm himself, but no.
I tried starting an anti anti-pedo vigilante group, so one could confront the so called anti pedos(like this idiot: https://www.facebook.com/www.NabovarselNorge.no/) but nothing happened and no one else would join.
But what we do have is 'onanist69, 'Jack', the latest anonymous and to some degree Eivind himself talking about the girl that was murdered and dismembered by the black rapper, "not deserving to be murdered and dismembered, but at the same time deserved it a little bit". In effect putting yourself in the same category as Peter Madsen and every other BDSM-freak out there.
This whole "movement" is really pathetic. Just as pathetic as Amos' total submission to a skinny dude with red clownish hair.
I must admit the clip does not make it look like MAP activists know what self-defense is. We should be prepared to put up some kind of resistance in situations like this. Actually you don't need martial arts training to do much more than Amos did here, since it would come naturally to most of us to fight back within our abilities.
This attacker was young and fit, but he was alone, and skinny.
Singaporeans themselves may still love Amos. Perhaps he figured it was better to play more of a passive victim role in this situation since it happened in full public view.
As to BDSM, this blog has never been about that or attracted anyone truly into it to my knowledge, so you can quit going on about that until someone here actually deserve to be compared to Peter Madsen.
The best way to do activism is not to rot i prison for years after wanking to photos of a girl like Amos Yee did. The better way would be to stand up and actually do some physical harm to what probably is an anti-pedo activist kind of person. Amos is a total failure and should never be mentioned again.
If the anti-pedo activist is jailed then that's a very good outcome for Amos, whereas it would look bad if there was footage showing Amos as the aggressor. Now it's a cut-and-dried case of letting the justice system deal with the nuisance and setting a good example for us.
We can fight another day when more appropriate, for example when the system is in cahoots with the vigilantes as happens in sting operations, or in reverse stings of our own.
https://x.com/RealEmirHan/status/2054712858026344774
"In Weird Science, Kelly LeBrock got so disturbed by kissing 15-year-old actor because he turned it into a French kiss.
“Every hair on back of my spine went up.”
After director called “cut,” she told the young actor:
“If you ever do that again, I’m going to kick your ass!”"
Since "Weird Science" was released in 1985, I find it hard to believe that such a conditioned fear reaction was due to kissing a 15-year-old as opposed to an adult. Definitely some kind of erotophobia, but I don't think pedo panic was so far advanced yet. Depending on when she said it, could also be a projection and virtue signaling from recent times with little or no basis in what happened. If she enjoyed it at the time, I doubt she would admit it now.
Amos Yee urges compassion towards attacker:
https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/pray-him-amos-yee-urges-compassion-towards-attacker-seeks-donations-medical-expenses
“Child sex offender Amos Yee has called for compassion towards his attacker and appealed for donations to help cover his medical expenses.”
I love how the media keeps calling him a “child sex offender” for his conviction for flirting with that 14-year-old. As absurd as is, it helps keep the MAP movement relevant and inclusive of real pedophiles too who need our activism far more than those of us who just like sexually mature individuals who happen to be jailbaits under current laws.
His compassionate stance towards his attacker is well played by Amos in my opinion, and wouldn’t have been possible without his subdued reaction to the beating. There is a time to fight back hard, but in this context Amos is getting the most mileage out of his activism and builds his brand most effectively by doing exactly what he is doing. I marvel at how he managed to make the media write such a glowingly positive story about a child sex offender who comes across as a genuinely good guy who even turned the other cheek because he is so saintly. It’s like Amos managed to cram 20 years of activism into his few months out of prison to turn the tables on sex offender persecution so profoundly already, not something I was expecting to read in the mainstream media any time soon.
Eivind, what are your thoughts regarding those two articles I linked the other day (the one about the South Korean teacher and that teen from Florida who hacked into NASA at the age of fifteen)?
The one about the South Korean teacher is Kafkaesque and depressing and somewhat heartening the same time because the girls who had falsely accused him recanted:
Student A and friends petitioned to make the Board of Education believe that Mr. Song was innocent. They confessed, “We said that Mr. Song touched us when in reality, he gave us a pat on the back for doing well in class.” The students begged, “Mr. Song has always been a wonderful teacher. Please let him come back to us. He only cares and wants the best for us and we are sorry for having troubled him this way.”
But the Board of Education still considered him guilty and the Korean press ran with that:
With that, the Board of Education immediately banned Mr. Song from the campus and put him on stand by to be transferred. The Korean press began covering the entire incident as a case of “sick-minded middle school teacher from rural Korea taking advantage of his female students” and netizens poured out malicious comments attacking Mr. Song... Completely discouraged by the fact that he had been framed as a criminal, Mr. Song ended up taking his own life in his own garage.
Goes to show how blatantly false accusations can still lead to a media frenzy, much like the Epstein panic. But it's good to see that society is not always completely united in its witch-hunt and how this one eventually got corrected in the press too. Perhaps one day the newspapers will also run stories about how the original 17-year-old girl whom Epstein was convicted of soliciting also didn't want to accuse him?
A 15-year-old hacking into NASA does not surprise me because we know they are fully capable of anything a human can do and probably at peak intelligence.
Hilarious how having a willing sexual encounter with a minor is evil but threatening to physically assault a child is fine and dandy
Yes I feel the same way, like it feels like the 1800s but then I reminded that this shit is happening right now. Everyone acts the same, prudish and hysterical and hating of anything that deviates from the sexual norm. Nothing ever changes.
Going back to the indefinite civil commitment of pedophiles, I was reminded of the “greyhound bus murder”, a schizophrenic man who decapitated and ate a man in front of his son on a greyhound bus during a psychotic episode. He was locked away for a mere NINE YEARS. So decapating a man and eating him in front of his son due to your mental illness deserves only nine years behind bars, but playing with your nine your old boyfriends dick deserves indefinente punishment in a “hospital” for the rest of your life because you are just “too mentally ill” to be let out in public?!?! Are you fucking kidding me?? Vince Li fucking ATE SOMEONE, IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN SON, yet he is still considered less of a threat to the general public than a “mentally ill” pedophile. I swear to god
What is your theory on the cause/evolution of minor attraction? My theory is that we have a stronger paternal/maternal instinct than telios. There are even some articles that show that male prefential child sex offenders have a stronger caretaking response to pictures of baby animals and children younger than their AoA.
This makes sense to me, since for most MAPs the sexual appeal of minors is secondary to the emotional/romantic/platonic appeal of minors. I wouldnt be suprised if we are like this because our caretaking instinct is stronger in us than telios and as a result gets more closely linked to our sexual instinct. We probably evolved on purpose to be caretakers to children who arent getting enough resources or affection from their primary caregivers.
Of course the data is biased to only male pedos who have not only commited, but been caught and arrested, so the evidence cant be extrapolated to all pedos, but based of my own expierence as a pedo and the expierences of other pedos, pedophillia seems to have more to do with a “deviant”/over responsive nuturing instinct than a “deviant”/over responsive sexual instinct. But I wouldnt even call us deviant given how common minor attraction is(even animals particpate in age gap sex/love) and all the potential evolutionary benefits.( teaching children about sex/extra parental caretakers to watch over a child/extra resources and food for the child)
Angry Harry used to say that children are designed to be cuddled. He wasn’t speaking for pedophilia per se but he was speaking against abuse hysteria. If you don’t think children are cute then you probably don’t have much of a nurturing instinct. If you think children are so cute that you get sexually aroused then it makes sense that this is your caretaking instinct on overdrive, yes. I also don’t think there is a hard line between the cuteness normal people are “supposed” to feel and the “pathological” kind of attraction society is currently hysterical about. It’s more of a soft gradation, not a categorical difference between sexual attraction and asexual affection (if that’s even possible) and it is insane to use “sexual” as a sufficient definition of abuse. Abuse should be defined in terms of what is actually harmful, not just what we think fits into a category that never made much sense to begin with.
And yes, there is definitely a role for teaching children about sex as well. Boys have a need and drive to learn from older females that is well established in primate studies, and if Frank Adamo’s theory of clitoral erectile dysfunction in women stemming from insufficient stimulation as a child is true, well, then girls have a need too for what is currently so absurdly demonized.
Notice how the word “abuse” is becoming superfluous now, to the point where most of what it yields is hyperbole for the sake of “wanting to coddle oneself into victimhood”.
Like seriously, we can’t use any other adjective?
Why overstate something as “traumatic”, when words like “negative” or “uncomfortable” could best fit the narrative overall, in terms of relevance? Do people not understand or grasp the impact of labels causing more harm than good?
Victimhood is currency.
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