Hansen’s final target is an 18-year-old called Hunter, planning to meet a 15-year-old, an age difference that wouldn’t be illegal in certain states. They run with it anyway (“I hope we’re not ruining his life,” one of the producers says, offhand, during lunch) and we get to meet Hunter’s parents in the aftermath, a life ruined just before graduation. “I just don’t know how the worst day of my life could be something that people are getting snacks for,” his mother says.'It's amazing how "predator hunting" has taken off, huh? As if it's up for grabs for any thug to give themselves license to harass and beat up men for being men. I shall say a few words about the phenomenon.
The Aztecs used to sacrifice people, lots of people including children. I am sure that did not mean you could grab any random child and kill them, say your neighbor's just because you felt like it. Children (and adults) to be sacrificed had to be selected via some kind of ritual. The chosen ones were no more "deserving" or "guilty" of something than anyone else; they were simply victims of a ritual. Which reportedly sometimes consisted of their parents offering them up for sacrifice, or having the misfortune to be captured in military strife, but that is still a ritual or happenstance rather than having some intrinsic badness which ought to be expunged from society.
Shirley Jackson's short story The Lottery gives a fictional account of how selection for modern ritual human sacrifice might work. It is a scary story because it is so believable that people will act that way, which is supported not just by history but the present reality of "predator hunting."
Current society is convinced that whoever is ritually identified as a "predator," or to make it as simple as possible for increasingly lazy hunters who get in on this cottage industry now commonly called a "pred," deserves to be stoned or some equally violent or socially excluding equivalent. I'm fascinated that a ritual which does nothing to actually set you apart nevertheless earns you that damning label. It's perfectly normal to be attracted to the teenage decoys they tend to use, so normal that you can be diagnosed with sexually hypoactive desire disorder if you are NOT attracted to them, and still the ritual is "valid" to society. Now in maximum fairness to the pred hunters you might still argue that it is the propensity to break the law when seeing an opportunity, rather than any sexual deviance, that is being "tested" in the ritual. But then why does this particular law have privileged status to justify treating hypothetical lawbreaking as a real crime? This is absurd when we know the crime would be victimless if it were real. It would be far more relevant to legitimate social interests to have sting operations on just about any other law. For example one might pose as accountants who offered to help you cheat on your taxes. Why is that not ritualistically accepted? The ritual only works for sex-exceptionalism. I have no doubt the majority of men could be incriminated this way if they were made to believe they could get away with it, and if not sex with a jailbait girl then I am sure there is something criminal to tempt everybody if we were all presented with whatever is most tempting to us individually. In "fairness" perhaps we all should be so tested, except there would be no society left to protect from the criminals when we are all criminals.
It is literally a lottery. Even more fascinating, experience tells me that I can proudly admit to the same propensity to disrespect the sex laws if given an opportunity which is believable to me, and nothing happens because it fails to satisfy the ritualistic manner in which society starts believing you are a "pred." No matter how clearly I put it here it just isn't "real" enough to society that I am just like their "predators." You cannot incriminate yourself this way, but men don't know this, so they are terrified to self-identify or speak out against the witch-hunt and therefore miss out on the best way to undermine it.
I gather that the most effective rituals are not perceived by their participants as rituals, but rather some kind of direct "truth" or "magic" or "justice." I imagine the Aztecs were not heavily into cultural anthropology, and though we do have that academic discipline these days, most normies do not observe "pred hunting" with the mindset of an anthropologist such as I do now (I did actually take a class in it at college, which helps). Instead they go about it as primitively as the Aztecs. I am writing this with the hope that readers might take on a more academic view.
This could cut both ways. If the normies realize that Eivind is in every morally relevant way exactly like the "preds" whom they believe in hunting (if not much worse since I am a lifelong activist at this), they might decide to hunt me too. But I am willing to take that risk because I care so much about activism and am even tempted by the idea of reverse stings. More logically, however, the normies should realize that they are "preds" themselves too, and that the phenomenon of "pred hunting" is part of a more general kind of ritual -- human sacrifice -- that we really do want to consign to the dustbin of history because it inflicts cruelty for no good reason.
Sadly it is not so simple. Perhaps the need to find scapegoats and someone to hate is too deep-seated to give up. There is a twisted logic to the ritual as well. By necessity, when everyone is eligible and there are also no volunteers or none permitted, only a ritual can set you apart as a sacrificial victim. The simplest ritual for this purpose is a lottery, with the current method being only slightly more complex, requiring some crude trial which really only tests the victim's gullibility -- typically whether you believe you are being seduced by a 15-year-old girl and not entrapped by the most revolting scum society can come up with -- but it does do the trick of convincing the normies that we have identified a witch or pedo or pred or however the latest slang goes (the latter being so new it still feels like parody to me, but it gets millions of views and full support in the mainstream). Isn't it amazing how an empty ritual, which is so simple to concoct that any self-selected group with no higher qualifications than being bored teenagers or failed gangsters or whatever can set it up on a whim, can take on such significance that all the normies fall in line with their "judgment"? A minimalistic ritual it is, but you DO need a ritual. A mere fact of the matter will not suffice. Those decoys despite being completely fake are "hyper-real" that way, thanks to the ritual magic, far more consequential to the public's opinion of you than carrying on relationships with real minors.
Self-sacrifice may be permitted in some types of human sacrifice, but only if you believe in the rationale for the ritual or plead guilty without coercion (if coerced as in a plea-bargain, it can get you sacrificed but it ain't self-sacrifice). When the ritual is supposed to hunt "evil" people as now, and I disbelieve that the accusation amounts to evil, it becomes inefficacious to point out that I am just like the "preds" who are otherwise hunted on the same level of factual evidence. This is also how I read Shirley Jackson's story (but not the Aztec kind of sacrifice, which was not so much about scapegoating as satisfying incredibly greedy gods with all they had). When scapegoating is the idea, you get the same ticket to the lottery as everyone else (in practice the odds are probably somewhat adjusted according to social status though, but not necessarily to the better for those on top). If someone offered to be a martyr to spare the others, the ritual would feel ineffective and the gesture would be declined, particularly if the martyr doubted the necessity of the sacrifice (or if not prevented, martyrdom would be hidden and lied about as in the case of Nathan Larson, who despite making the ultimate sacrifice failed to get the point across to the normies that he was engaging in civil disobedience).
I submit that if a "pred hunter" group or even Chris Hansen himself were to attack me now based on my blog, they would be met with social disapproval (and prosecution if they got violent) because it is out of line with the ritual. The entire spectacle that they get away with against so many non-activist men is fed by the ritual rather than what we actually are (since we are the same apart from the activism); that's how empty and contemptible the whole idea of "predator hunting" is.
While this realization won't put an end to the insane vigilantism we are seeing now, it can be used by other non-normies to protect themselves somewhat. As a rule, remember that if you don't hide, they don't hunt you, because there is no sport or ritual magic or whatever the hell it is supposed to accomplish in hunting those of us who proudly identify as what the normies claim to be this exceptional social menace that we need to bring back human sacrifice to combat. Perhaps there is some logic here too, since the menace is supposed to be silently lurking everywhere, which is integral to the "hunt." An open activist is so far removed from this script that he is ignored, at least until he qualifies for the more formal rituals employed by the police and "justice" system, who largely operate in the same superstitious way on this topic but with higher standards of "evidence" (in Norway at least; this is not true in the US where cops are so systemically corrupt that they employ the same stings as the vigilantes). And that kind of process, too, is less likely to be forthcoming when you don't act like a scaredy normie who is terrified of the ritual because he believes in it.
The takehome that I want my anonymous readers to get from this post is that you fear the wrong thing when you are afraid to sign your real name to comments. You need to be ritually identified to be in danger. To “be” a pedo or now “pred” is largely meaningless, and if you only like pubescent children or teenagers, which is to have a normative sexuality which cannot be diagnosed with a deviance, it is completely meaningless. I don’t fear the ritual either -- I’m itching to mess with the hunters in a reverse sting -- but if you are going to fear something, then fear the ritual, not admitting the fact of being who you are.
Those who pass as predator hunters are empowered by society with its current superstitions to ritualistically identify "predators," but remember that the ritual is governed by stricter rules than it seems and therefore your fear of speaking out against the predator hunters is unfounded. The "justice" system also ritualistically identifies predators via convictions or coerced pleas. Sex offender registries are a refined level of ritualistic identification, though curiously less hyper-real than sting operations. The media calling someone a predator based on accusation alone sometimes works and sometimes not. But what I have found does not work at all is to self-identify as honestly having the substantial qualities of a "predator." Stating an opinion as on a blog like I am doing now or in any kind of publication where you yourself get credit is not a ritual in this sense, and cannot be picked up by those other shamanistic institutions to brand you a predator or witch. I believe I have thus identified a general rule of witch-hunts: you cannot accuse yourself, at least not of the hypothetical crimes which now incriminate an endless stream of "predators." I challenge anyone to prove me wrong if you think I am wrong, but I have never seen self-identification lead to dire consequences and most often it has positive effects.
As an activist against antisex-hysteria I am here to mock the "pred hunting" ritual, the underlying CSA-hoax dogma, the laws and the normies who believe in all this. To our long list of ways to mock and undermine them we can now add talking about the ritualistic aspects that the normies would rather not see that way. They need a ritual to prop up their persecution of imaginary predators which deflates when you pay attention to how it really works, so take note and try to encourage more anthropological thinking on this as opposed to full immersion in the beliefs.
As an activist against antisex-hysteria I am here to mock the "pred hunting" ritual, the underlying CSA-hoax dogma, the laws and the normies who believe in all this. To our long list of ways to mock and undermine them we can now add talking about the ritualistic aspects that the normies would rather not see that way. They need a ritual to prop up their persecution of imaginary predators which deflates when you pay attention to how it really works, so take note and try to encourage more anthropological thinking on this as opposed to full immersion in the beliefs.
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I'd say try taking that "pro-pedo" stance publicly in a country that is violently pedohysterical like the US or UK, even the NL now, but I don't want you to get hurt. But if you want action, that's where you can find it.
I find the question of whether the culture makes the laws or the laws make the culture to be an important one. It seems like feminists got into positions of power, the government as whole realized it could benefit hugely from feminist pedohysteria, and then organizations were set up and funded, and culture was quickly changed from the top-down with simultaneous pedohysterical messaging.
We can look at Prohibition in the USA as a good analog, as it shares almost all the same elements, including that it was part of the feminists' agenda. You had feminist women and cuck males loudly supporting the policy. You had Christcuck religion supporting the policy. You had powerful organizations, including the mafia, positioned to benefit.
How did it change? Men broke the law in widespread fashion, and women wanted to drink. Men break the feminist pedohysteria laws, but not as many men, because the penalties are higher and the product (young pussy) is much harder to obtain. This is a good argument for supporting under 18 AI sexbots and pornography, because it will be much easier to obtain and not get caught, which is also a reason why feminists and governments are freaking out about it (despite it having no 'sexual value' as you claim, it certainly does to these tyrants because it threatens their entire pedohysterical model if embraced by all men).
The other variable is young women. It seems like under 18, and young women in general, have been desexualized and made entirely afraid of pursuing age gap relationships. This is a new phenomenon. They are afraid of being slut shamed by the gay ass conservatives, they are afraid of being victims of unfair power dynamics as warned constantly by radical feminists, they are afraid of dating low status men, they are afraid of social media shaming, and the list goes on.
If we are to take the lessons from Prohibition's end in bringing feminist pedohysteria to an end, it will require the enthusiastic desire of young women to be in "pedophilic" relationships with older men, as well as the widespread participation of men in "pedophilic" activities, ideally banging the young women, but if not, then taking part in under 18 sexual alternatives.
anon69
"This is a good argument for supporting under 18 AI sexbots and pornography, because it will be much easier to obtain and not get caught."
Here we go again with the wanker's delusion that these fake "alternatives" to sex have sexual value, so I need to state again that I do not share this view. You are only cucking yourself if you pay any sexual attention to inanimate objects like pornography and sexbots, and it's doubly sad that you see it as a way to oppose feminism.
Did it still not sink in that the feminist filmmaker who made a film to mock me and all of male sexuality put forth this very moral, that men should have sex with dolls to spare women the trouble. Why do you want to oblige them?
As to that warning about taking my stance public in a violently pedohysterical country, do I need to remind you that my blog is public in all countries, and Norway is also violently pedohysterical?
I am trying to say that going public does not have the effect you think -- quite the opposite -- but this is evidently impossible for any of you anonymouses to comprehend.
You are confusing what happens when you are the victim of ritualistic denouncement with having a public stance. Since the former regularly destroys lives, someone who has spent all his life hiding behind anonymity when saying anything controversial readily concludes that it must be dangerous to have such a public stance as what all these lives are destroyed over.
I just wrote a whole essay about why this is wrong. It does not work like that. You are in control of your destiny when you have the balls to have an opinion, and conversely you are thrown to the wolves when involuntarily outed for the same thing.
To support your point Eivind, to be fair Nathan Larson took the stand in the US and nothing happened to him. It was just when he decided to make a revolutionary act of defiance bad things happened. Same with Amos Yee really... I don't know why these people keep feeding themselves into the machine by breaking it's laws. Amos Yee would have definitely done better to keep speaking that getting himself locked up for 6 years...
Also, let's not forget the US has the only real sex offender organisation - National RSOL. Yeah their aim is to talk to policy makers and make change by being seen as a 'legitimate' charity which has resulted in them not being as radical as many here might like. But if you want radical then there is NAMBLA and they are USA!!!
As for the UK it's still got Tom O'Carroll. And OK - he has been locked up for his views before. This is where I guess the UK - and actually Europe in general - get a bit more murky and do have a free speech deficit. Though for well argued political views it's still not easy for the establishment to prosecute. And anyway, regarding paedo hunters well it seems they haven't found Tom and he's pretty blatant so these paedo hunters are definitely quite thick. The other side of it is paedo hunters are bullies - they like to pick on someone weaker than themselves because in reality they are weak and scared and pathetic losers - someone who comes out with a controversial view is almost by definition not weak and therefore cannot be picked on.
Never mind whether those inanimate objects are, as you say, not real, or not real sex. As you yourself must recognize, they are considered real by anybody except yourself, but particular by the gynocracy, the STU, the feminazis ... Supporting those inanimate objects is, from an activism point of view, tantamount to supporting sex with biological entities. Even if they were mere symbols (they're more than that) those inanimate objects would still be worthy fighting for because they are staunchly opposed by the Pedohysteria Empire. The choice is not ours nor yours, it's the Empire's.
Yeah, the pedo hunters are more interested in hunting teenage boys who like 15-year-old girls than Tom O'Carroll who likes 4-year-old boys. And not just more interested -- they have ZERO interest in Tom O'Carroll. Or me. Or anyone else who is not specifically identified by their rituals.
It's not that the pedo hunters are thick, though they are probably that too. The key distinction is UNWRITTEN RULES protecting someone like me and Tom O'Carroll and Nathan Larson before he fed himself into the system and even Amos Yee now inside the prisons (must be pretty cozy for him in there when he demonstratively violates probation to get back in). You guys don't seem to believe much in those unwritten rules, so you make up other explanations like Norway supposedly being a free speech paradise. In actual fact however, we recently had a ritualistically identified pedo begging the police to jail him to protect him from the pedo hunters. Ours are every bit as violent if not more so.
The purpose of a system is what it does, not what it claims to do. I learned the POSIWID principle from John Michael Greer's first essay on Situationism, where he says:
it’s helpful to start with one of the basic principles of systems theory: The purpose of a system is what it does. (The helpful acronym POSIWID has been coined as shorthand for this.) As the delightfully named systems theoretician Stafford Beer liked to say, “There is no point in claiming that the purpose of a system is to do what it constantly fails to do.”
What does pedo hunting do? Certainly not hunt pedophiles. They have no interest in the most blatant pedos or activists and the men they hunt are not pedos but normal men who fell into a technical trap always one year under the age of consent rather than anything to do with real children. The unwritten rule says to get "permission" from society to attack someone, the victim must momentarily believe one of the hunters' own decoys is a 15-year-old girl. My sitting here writing paean after paean to 15-year-old girls and swearing I disrespect the law does not qualify, and they know it. It's a strict ritual with a different purpose. The pedo hunters do not even know what pedophilia is, or care. All they care about is gaining status and thrills in this socially approved way that "predator hunting" has come to be. The purpose of that spectacle is human sacrifice because that is what it does. It also serves as entertainment and scapegoating and of course a way for mindless thugs to gain status.
@ Eivind-thanks for the insight about the ritualistic aspect of the current moral panic. Now that I've read this article, I get what you mean.
I'm not sure what this might mean in the wider scheme of things, but
if paedo hunters aren't mostly hunting paedo's, then that would seem to be part of a wider dilution of the term that has been noted by anti's as well as MRA's.
The way men express their lack of interest in teenage girls these days reminds me a bit of how Gandhi slept with teen girls in order to prove his self-control.
-Anonymous 2
I think "dilution of the term" is the wrong way to look at it. That would only make sense if hunting pedophiles was a thing to begin with, which is false for most of history. You are partly sucked in by the current panic if you think they got the definition "wrong," as if there is a right way to do it. I see predator hunting as a separate phenomenon than even the CSA panic which itself is a historical aberration arising only since the 1980s. What we have now is ritual human sacrifice which only coincidentally uses the word "pedophile" which is so irrelevant to what is going on that they partly switched to "predator" anyway, which is another meaningless term, but that's beside the point because the purpose is to concoct ANY kind of ritual which can serve these other purposes of entertaiment and sadism and so on. The pedo hunters will hunt people at random if that's what society says they can do, because they care nothing about the nominal purpose.
A desire of trolling pedohunter's and/or wanting to meet them to beat them to a bloody pulp will give you plausible deniability if you are ever accused of trying to meet up with an underage girl for sex. These pedohunters are som stupid they even believe it's even illegal to meet up with a girl over the age of 18 if you're older than her. These people, the pedohunters, are the worst feminists that existed ever. I also include law enforcement in the term pedohunter now, because they are equally retarded in many cases. Feminist enforcers indeed!
So 'anon69' is another one of those porn enthusiasts just like 'Jack' and 'the AF' and he shares their dream of advanced AI driven masturbation equipment. I actually thought 'anon69' was one of your decent followers like myself, but he's just as worthless as the others it seems.
Did 'the AF' mention me any more times on his blog BTW? I'm the one who 'the AF' refers to as Eivind's only Norwegian follower.
Yes, it is absolutely bizarre that they think they are competing for females by dropping out of the competition and having "sex" with inanimate objects. It is a literal delusion, an evolutionary trap which is so insidious they can't see it no matter how clearly we explain it.
How is it possible to say something like "Supporting those inanimate objects is, from an activism point of view, tantamount to supporting sex with biological entities"? Only by insanity, that's how.
I'm sure you could attract less worthless anti-feminist men than 'the AF' and the like if you moderated yourself a tiny bit and published your writings on Substack. Like dont say that incest is okay, because it's not. Use your brilliant mind and excellent writing skills where it matters, and dont waste any more of your time debating with people like 'anon69' who will never understand that masturbation and porn is not the same as sex.
I know 'the AF' is reading this and it wont be long before he writes a fuming comment about me again in his masturbation blog.
You could have far more followers on Substack who would have proper debates with you but no matter how many times you are told you wont go there. How can you think of moving to another country if you can't even move your blog to Substack? If you wrote an article on Substack about the wankers delusion it would be certain to be read by thousands and 'the AF' would be fuming more than ever.
Writing is something you can be very good at and not get many readers and be starving. I need to focus on something that can probably make a difference to my life.
I agree on that Eivind. But you can do both coding and writing. You sure have a skill in writing, and on Substack you can get paid for it. Just look at Kjetil Rolness f.x.; He is writing on Substack and he's quite controversial, and he still makes money.
It's just a tip from me because I want you to succeed and your message is important. So only if you have the time, but registering and making an account should not take much time. You could just copy some of your best blogposts and upload them there as a test. But I agree, life is more important than changing peoples minds. You can only do so much and living a good life beats everything really.
I see the Antifeminist still persists in his delusion that feminists see sex dolls as a threat to female sexual power. He thinks "feminists can’t stand the idea that men would freely choose sex dolls over women because they offer more sexual satisfaction than most of them can." I am not surprised he won't change his mind since his entire ideology depends on this delusion, but I thought he would at least be able to see the feminist filmmaker behind "Norwegian Offspring" as an exception. After all, she explained the moral herself in this interview:
https://www.ekkofilm.dk/artikler/en-sexdukke-doemmer-ikke-nogen/
There was no male free choice in the movie -- it was HER CHOICE to make the male character impotent with women and portray a sex doll brothel as a "solution" because she hates men so much. She claims sex workers are so disgusted with men that men should choose dolls to avoid being judged. There is absolutely no feeling of being threatened in this, just pure hate against men.
I see the wanker's delusion goes even deeper than I thought since they can't even see any exceptions to the feelings they impute to feminists no matter how clear it is in an individual case.
Let me also address a possible objection here.
The wanker faction of the sexualist movement might concede that sure feminists don't mind if low-value males like the protagonist in "Norwegian Offspring" use sex dolls, and indeed this is perceived as a relief to women so feminists would encourage it.
But high-value men are different. If high-value men willingly choose sex dolls over women, feminists feel threatened. Is this what you believe? Maybe that's even true, but I fail to see how this makes sex dolls a good thing from the male perspective either. Why on earth would any man with options choose sex dolls? And the incels shouldn't either because it is meaningless and gets in the way of maximizing their chances with real women.
Another question to the wankers who think they spite feminists by wanking, what makes you think you induce jealousy rather than relief even if some men can induce jealousy by so doing? You must think you are hot stuff, huh? Wanking only proves you can't get anyone attractive as far as I'm concerned, or your willpower to try is derailed by an evolutionary trap.
Why would dramatic arts feels threatened by the movies? The movies are only pixels on a screen while the Theater has real-life living actors. Why would gold coins be threatened by paper-money? Gold is the real thing, paper is only paper. Why would cash be threatened by digital payments? Cash is something tangible, digital money is only electrons. Why would women who already have shown to feel threatened enough by porn, feel threatened by sexbots? Why would anyone feel threatened by technological progress?
Why would women who already have shown to feel threatened enough by porn, feel threatened by sexbots?
They are not threatened by porn either unless you are so attractive yourself that you would have no use for porn. This is the same male delusion at play which has sadly infested the MRA movement, that you are spiting the feminists by denying them sexual attention that they are absolutely disgusted by and gladly leave to the porn and sexbots.
Eivind, I would just ignore people like 'Jack' who will never be satisfied with any argument going against porn and/or masturbation. I dont see the point of trying to convince those die hard masturbation and porn enthusiasts that real girls is the only way to go and that they are totally obtainable. But only if you quit porn and get rid of your sex toys, 'Jack'.
It is bizarre how you see no benefit in doing anything else besides playing a rigged game that is designed by feminists for you to lose. In case you didn't notice, going to jail and no one giving a shit about you being there, means you lose. I have huge respect for Nathan Larson and Amos Yee. And they are losers.
I play that rigged game as well, approaching many more hot teen girls than you. But I am not stupid enough to believe I'm on a fair playing field when I'm doing it, and I acknowledge the value of other activities that directly threaten attention given to women that feminists hate.
anon69
Feminist puts women back on a pedestal by shitting on men who choose alternatives, big surprise. How is this not obvious?
anon69
Sexually serious men like me play the real game because it is the only game. There are no alternatives and cannot be because they are meaningless. Your imagined "alternatives" only take you farther away from the goal and are the opposite of alternatives. Should not men who confuse obstacles with goals be shat on? To make it worse, feminists are not so much shitting on these men but helping you dig yourself further into irrelevance by offering up sex dolls for you as in that film, a message which you bizarrely embrace while not recognizing the real reason you are shat on, which is that you are so sexually worthless that you might as well be using these "alternatives" indeed as far as women are concerned to relieve them of unwanted sexual attention.
The failure of making an active anti-p3d0-hunter community and registry is very disappointing. I think it shows that too many porn enthusiasts and AI sex-toy enthusiasts are your followers.
When I got into activism 25 years ago I not think the sex-positive MRA movement could become so marginalized that outside my blog there is no community aside from wankers who celebrate advances in sexbots and porn. I did not think we would have to look to the queers and pederasts for inspiration, but here we are because there is nothing for straight men comparable to Tom O'Carroll and his guest bloggers at the moment. The latest post at TOC is an excellent example of the real-life sex-positive ethos that I want to uphold and which the AF and his ilk have lost the plot on:
https://heretictoc.com/2025/09/24/like-cutting-off-my-own-limb/
This guest post by Marco details his frustration with missing out on REAL sexual experiences, the sort of healthy valuation of real life which you SHOULD feel like this about instead of thinking fake alternatives can suffice:
The realisation that I spent so many years losing opportunities for real sex while I was isolated in my fantasies was horrible. It is the kind of thought where you realise you have spoiled your time for many years, leading a life that does not represent at all what you wanted to be. This realisation was so disturbing that I entered a depression phase in which I made several suicide attempts.
He also describes a missed opportunity with a teen with exactly the appropriate feelings to match my ethos and how I would feel myself if I had turned down a girl who liked me like that:
I eventually decided not to meet the boy, which has been one of the toughest decisions I have ever faced. It felt like cutting off my own limb. Emotionally excruciating. I mentally collapsed. It left me with a series of anxiety crises for over a year, for which I required treatment.
When was the last time you saw a straight man express regret over missing out on sex with a teen girl? We don't even get that in the sexualist movement aside from my blog anymore. Instead we get pathetic fantasies about AI replacing girls as well as paranoia about breaking the law.
Thanks to Tom O'Carroll for keeping real sex-positivity alive so I'm not completely alone. You and your community are a true inspiration unlike the wankers I have to deal with.
Also from the same link at TOC, Tom himself writes the most decisive takedown of Epstein hysteria I have ever read. I could not have put it half so well myself and once again I am stunned by how much better a pedophile boylover is at "normal male sexuality" activism than any of us "normal" men ourselves and how wrong the AF is to hate him and blame him for causing antisex panic rather than being the voice of sanity that he is:
What struck me about this story, apart from the bizarre headline’s display of the paedophobic, paedomanic lunacy into which the anglophone world has sunk, is that the media must surely be finding it harder and harder to keep insisting Epstein is a monster. Why? Because we are hearing from more and more people who have said behind the scenes what a nice guy he was!
The testimony of this understandably starstruck young woman from an ordinary background is particularly interesting and important because it tells an entirely different story to those of his alleged victims, at least one of whom, Virginia Giuffre, was a proven fantasist at best, while others have stood to gain financially from their narratives of alleged trauma – millions have been paid in compensation to say nothing of media fees for their stories.
What we are also hearing now, though, is similar praise for Epstein from his elite friends, notably Peter Mandelson, recently sacked as the UK’s ambassador to the US, and Sarah Ferguson, Prince Andrew’s former wife. Both of them speak of him with extraordinary warmth, giving us good reason to believe they were speaking from the heart. Unlike the “assistant”, their testimony is also important because they were high status people with no reason to be sycophantic towards him. Yes, they might have been helped by loans from him, but they did not need to grovel or be so effusive.
So far, I have to say, I have seen nothing to suggest that Epstein was anything other than a nice guy.
It is people like Marco I envision building the Ordo Templi Sexualis with. Someone who would have a mental health crisis if they turned down an extremely desirable partner, legal or not. Caring so much about sexuality goes hand in hand with being an activist too. I would never have devoted my life to activism against the sex laws if I didn't feel the similar highs about sexual successes too as such mental anguish at missing out suggests. We can have a wonderful brotherhood if only we get people like this together. How hard can it be? Why don't we think constructively about how to go about it?
I always thought sexuality should naturally have such an important role in people's lives or at least men's lives because it feels obviously this important to me. But then I see normies caring nothing about everything being criminalized, so they must really not value it so much. Perhaps it is futile to build a movement of such like-minded, but given that my current goal is simply to get a group to exist at all, never mind changing the culture at large for now, when you think of how many organizations for every conceivable interest group there are otherwise, it is weird that sexualism should be so completely left out that I am not only the sole public activist in a country of five million, but the only one who would join a secret society such as the OTS as well.
I too was once very idealistic about sexuality. This meant I also overestimated human nature. In the nineties I discovered the swingers' lifestyle. My idea of bliss was visiting swinging clubs (mostly in Germany) with an attractive female partner in tow. I got girls on fiance visas from South America, Africa. I thought wow this is great! No more rivalry between men, sexual communism instead. No more fighting for women, sharing of women instead. I naively thought others would see eye-to-eye with me and I reckoned it was only a matter of time before swinging clubs cropped up everywhere and filled up with couples. Little did I know that swinging clubs had already peaked and would go downhill fast, closing one after another for lack of interest from the new generation. I had overestimated human nature, thinking it aligned with my own. What the new generation wanted was rivalry, narcissism, possessiveness, jealousy, ie the same old bag of tricks inherited from prehistory and hard-wired into Man's reptilian brain.
Now 'Jack' is talking about being a super popular swinger who imported gorgeous partners from all over the world and being a popular visitor of sex clubs in Germany. Going from that to being a guy who says he enjoys porn and will not stop using it and also dreaming about AI driven sex toys is not believable at all. Nothing would stop him from continuing from bringing over sex partners if so were actually true. And besides the German sex clubs are not really sex clubs but rather porn clubs where men pay money to live out their porn interests.
I think Jack is telling the truth about his swingers experiences. Even I had good experiences with swingers in the 1990s. When I was a college student in Tennessee in the late 90s and early 2000s I got to know two women who were married swingers and invited me to have sex with them with their husbands present. The women were very enthusiastic about it and also talked about being in swingers clubs and how much fun it was. That scene definitely used to exist but mostly seems to have died down I guess.
Both were slightly nontraditional students. One was 26 and had been in the military before, as was her husband still. The other was 45 but still attractive to me at the time (now I have higher standards, but I was young and inexperienced so it was very exciting). It's a shame that the younger generations are not into this.
Paranoia? Good luck Eivind.
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Reddit guys go nuts over a 27yr old guy trying to date a 21 year old
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vent/comments/1nsvcor/are_goodlooking_men_desperate_tooo/
I recently overheard some women talking, one of them in almost exactly that age gap -- 22 and 28 -- and she she said she was shocked when she found out how old he was after they had hooked up out on the town and gone home together, like the mere fact of his age was some horrible calamity, but they nonetheless stayed together. So yeah, six years is a big deal to the normies now, borderline of what they can tolerate at all.
Perhaps this is what "equality" really means and what we are stuck with for now. Age gaps are as gross to women as they are appealing to men, so with feminism the female norm wins out to the point that normie men will parrot it too and only covertly try to subvert it a little bit.
Men need to pay for age gaps in one way or another, either by supporting a patriarchy that will enforce social norms and economic inequality to make age gaps acceptable, or by social ostracism and spending inordinate resources to get a younger woman from a poorer country. I have realized by now that is is what I have to adapt to. Not by conforming like the normies of course since then my life would be totally meaningless, but by devoting ALL my efforts and resources to this goal while discarding all distractions.
I finished Erica Garza's autobiographical book about porn and sex addiction. I'm not sure the tale is genuine. It could just be cashing in on the sex addition craze. Some parts of it feel like they may have been written by a man. Be that as it may, she writes this about when she was ten years old: "Wearing that shirt announced to the world in my own small way that I was a sexual being. As a child, I loved that I was making such a bold statement to the world, even if my mom and dad wouldn't imagine their little girl could be capable of sexual thoughts. I'd been noticing pleasant and mysterious sensations between my legs, and had enough knowledge to know that the sensation had to do with what happens between girls and BOYS." There's more of the same in the book. How is it possible for something like this to be in print and never discussed or questioned? Erica Garza has been invited to give interviews and speak to all kinds of publics. How can she get away with this without anyone noticing? My answer: she's a woman, go-girl! Wymmyns can get away with anything. 12-year old girls would be allowed to masturbate on prime time TV if it were not that MEN could get a kick out of it (which Eivind would dismiss as only pixels but never mind). You see, female child sexuality is allright, no consent charade, as long as men go to jail for it.
Wow, I can believe she wrote that part herself even if most of the book was ghostwritten, because few men think they can get away with saying such anymore, or even think it would be believable given all the indoctrination with the CSA hoax and supposed child innocence.
Yes, women get away with saying more, but then there is also the female sex offender charade, so this privilege is highly limited. Also, didn't she repent all the sex-positivity after realizing she was "addicted" and all? Perhaps this glimmer of truth about child sexual awakening was only publishable in the context of a repentant, female, "sex addict" memoir.
No because this quotation is from the epilogue, where she writes from the point of view of someone who has come to terms with her addiction and reflects upon the fact she was a healthy child after all. She didn't at all write this in the spirit of a cautionary tale about child precociousness leading later to sex addiction.
That's a positive twist, but I still think the "addiction" context is why nobody bothers to cancel her for these remarks. As long as the overall setting is either "sex addiction" or "CSA," different rules apply to what can be said. These are our cultural havens for indulging otherwise forbidden sexual fantasies and memories, whereas a self-consciously sex-positive book would be cancelled from the outset for much less.
Hei Eivind. Hvordan oppretter jeg enklest mulig en Bitcoin konto? Vil en Bitcoin transaksjon gjøre meg anonym fra avsender? Og ikke minst, hvordan kan jeg overføre verdien av bitcoin til min konto?
Håper du kan hjelpe meg å forklare meg dette. Jeg skal motta penger fra en person og selv om det er helt lovlige penger og ikke noe ulovlig involvert, så ønsker jeg å holde meg anonym overfor denne personen.
Bitcoin har ikke noen "konto" med mindre du overlater til en tredjepart å faktisk bruke bitcoin for deg; i så fall har du konto hos dem, men det har ingenting med selve bitcoin å gjøre og bare betyr at de skylder deg bitcoin, så ikke gå for noe slikt tull. Ekte bitcoin hare bare adresser som genereres tilfeldig på din egen maskin, og ja dermed 100% anonymt for alle andre enn deg selv i hele verden. Du bruker en lommebok til å lage adresser for deg og motta bitcoin med, og sende dem videre til hvilken som helst adresse. Hvis du vil ha en enkel lommebok som lar deg bruke bitcoin helt selv uten noe tull så er for eksempel Mycelium ok og kan brukes på telefon, men jeg kan egentlig bare anbefale Bitcoin Core hvis du virkelig er seriøs. Ellers fins det mange gode lommebøker, bare pass på at du ikke involverer noen som helst tredjepart som lager adressene eller utfører transaksjonene for deg, altså alt som har med "konto" hos noen som helst annen tjeneste å gjøre slik som børsene hvor folk handler bitcoin for penger, for da er det ikke du som bruker bitcoin og du er ikke anonym.
Takk for det Eivind. Men hvordan kan en annen person(som ikke kan noe om bitcoin) overføre bitcoin til meg? Da trenger jeg vel en slags adresse eller noe som jeg kan sende vedkommende fra en anonym e-postadresse. Og hvordan får jeg så dette ut i normal valuta til min vanlige bankkonto?
Setter pris på at du gidder å svare meg på dette.
In the Jewish ritual of Kapparot, they transfer people's sins into a chicken, which they then slaughter to "cleanse" the individual. I think this is similar to why young men get into "pred hunting". They fear knowing that they'll still be attracted to youth well into middle-age and beyond. The discomfort of this leads them to lash out against "predators", as they are an embodiment of what they (rightly) fear they'll become.
It's just anti-male, when it comes down to it. They're so conditioned to believe that male sexuality is inherently an act of violation, which can only be acceptable if the power dynamics favor the woman. Whatever tenderness they might feel for young girls they won't even allow themselves to explore! So what they're left with are these haunting premonitions of their future selves as sexual perverts driven by deviant lust, never stopping to consider that there might be something deeper to these unwanted impulses, and that there is a great capacity for love, creativity, and self-sacrifice in the male draw towards youth and beauty!
Bitcoin har ingenting med e-postadresser å gjøre. Du har fremdeles ikke forstått hvor mektig bitcoin er når du tror du trenger det. Tenk på det som å sitte i et privat rom og rulle terninger for å lage deg en addresse (som har en hemmelig del som er din nøkkel du bruker til å sende bitcoin videre og en privat del du deler trygt til hvem som helst for å få tilsendt bitcoin). Du trenger ikke tillatelse fra noen, ikke engang en anonym mailserver, for å lage en adresse og motta bitcoin, og du er like anonym som du er når du ruller terninger for deg selv.
Bare be den det gjelder kjøpe bitcoin hvor som helst og sende til adressen du får fra lommeboken din. Så langt er du 100% anonym. Hvis du vil ha fiat så må du finne noen som vil kjøpe bitcoin av deg. Børsene vil alltid kjøpe, men der må du identifisere deg, og de kan se adressen som sendte deg bitcoin også når du sender til dem siden alle transaksjoner er offentlig informasjon, så hvis det er veldig viktig at avsender aldri kan spore deg så ville jeg gått veien om en privat mynt slik som monero i steden. Eller du kan bare spare dine bitcoin når du får dem og ha det som et svart betalingsmiddel til en senere anledning. Å spørre hvordan du får dette inn på konto i en norsk bank anonymt blir det samme som å spørre hvordan man hvitvasker, og det kan jeg ikke svare deg på.
Thanks for this analysis of what drives "pred hunting." I wouldn't attribute so much thinking to the young men who get into this myself. I see them as opportunists who fill a role with little or no deeper reflection on why they are doing it than the immediate status and thrills gained. They doublethink their own attraction to young girls as irrelevant I think, just plain hypocrisy. In my view, the level of analysis where ritual comes in is the social function of the role they take on. Why do they get social permission to act as vigilantes for this, and only this? They are empowered as both police, jury and executioner in one. How is this possible in a society which otherwise has sophisticated functions for fighting crime that you can't just pick up without qualifications or formal selection? This is were we have to assume a ritual magic of "cleansing evil" or human sacrifice to make sense of it. The vigilante thugs themselves did not create this role; they just take advantage of it being there. Similar to how the Aztecs who served as priests or whatever who extracted hearts didn't overthink the role, it was just there for the taking and it beats being in the other role.
I very much agree there is great capacity for love, creativity, and self-sacrifice in the male draw towards youth and beauty! I feel this is the very life-force that keeps me going. I feel like I am in love with all young girls, the same energy I would get in my youth form one girl (whom I couldn't get) now radiates from all young girls in their teens and early 20s and any one of them could make me happy. This is both better because I don't have the oneitis problem and worse because it is so unlikely that anyone young will like me. But it is a tremendous positive energy for sure and the girls aren't offended by it either, just typically bored and uninterested until you can find an exception to that rule. Our drive is only construed as evil in this false cultural belief which gives rise to this sinister ritual. In that belief system we are "preds" indeed, but it's only a religious belief out of touch with reality.
"Bitcoin har ingenting med e-postadresser å gjøre"
Men jeg må likevel bruke e-mail for å sende over adressen til min lommebok til vedkommende.
Takk, jeg skal teste ut Bitcoin Core.
agecuck says that at 19 they're still kids and it's fucking weird to be attracted to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhXNzy1JZg
At time-stamp 2:00 porn cutie Elsa Jean confesses to being with a man 50 years her senior:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhj41IgQPNI&t=121s
You see, it's allright for a woman to brag about being with an older man. But it's not allright for a man to brag about being with a younger woman. A Nordic model is in place for normal relationships. Only the man is criminal.
Well, if young girls are bragging about being with us, there isn't much more to ask for as an old man. Sure, decriminalization would be nice, but even that is optional then.
Porn is sick garbage, get this filth out of this blog pls
Eivind, can you address AF’s “white-knighting” accusations?
This looks like some Esptein Nr 2:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-financier-howard-rubin-ex-assistant-charged-running-violent-s-rcna233935
Was a financier like Epstein, had a female "personal assistant" as an accomplice.
It would be unfair to Epstein to compare him to the sadist who is described there. Of course these accusations could be exaggerated or bullshit too, but it seems plausible that Howard Rubin was generally motivated by a perverse desire to torture women sexually, instead of making love to them like Epstein did and I would endorse. Unlike Epstein I am not going to adopt Howard Rubin as a saint and role model, but the "sex trafficking" accusations are bullshit even if he really engaged in "BDSM beyond consent" as is alleged there. That's not a sexual problem, but everything is made out to be a sex crime now since sex itself is seen as the ultimate evil. While it is possible that I would agree with pressing some charges for violence against Rubin if the women are telling the truth, I disagree with this prosecution because it falsely makes sex out to be evil and criminal and uses the same laws which shouldn't exist because they just as easily apply to normal sex which is totally enjoyable to the "victims." So as such, it is another false "sex abuse" case indeed, though the accused deserves far less sympathy than usual.
It is symptomatic that 'Jack' who's promoting porn use and sex robots dont see the defining difference between this guy Rubin who was into the uglyness of BDSM ie. a sadist, and Epstein who was into normal beautiful lovemaking with beautiful girls.
I'm sure the girls in Rubin's case had been informed of what to accept in order to reap the 5 thousand USD reward at the end of the session. They were even asked to sign a document for consent. They were not tricked into this. But does it matter considering even the most harmless forms of sex can be re-written as abuse or violence?
Bhana, D., & Lucke, S. (2025). Childhood Sexualities: On Pleasure and Meaning from the Margins. Sex & Sexualities, 0(0).
https://doi.org/10.1177/30333717251375994
No, it only matters to our image of what we support. In this case "if convicted of sex trafficking, they each face a maximum sentence of life in prison and a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years." That's for sex alone or just crossing a state line with sexual thoughts, so if this were charged as violence instead it would be downgraded to something comparatively trivial.
I don't think it matters to the normies either. They will continue to regard Epstein as the ultimate monster who certainly can't be rivaled by a mere sadist when there are no minors involved. Making love to minors is worse than torturing adult women to the normies and law, but the distinction matters to the image I want to project.
I believe minors can consent, but if this sort of signed "contract" to do bodily harm is part of what it means to be capable of consenting to sex, then we need an exception for BDSM with minors, a special age of consent for that. Perhaps it is most reasonable to be consistent and say that such a contract is not valid for adults either. I think that makes our argument for minors the strongest. Because otherwise we have to concede that something magical happens to your ability to make decisions about your own body at 18, which is inconsistent with reality. I would prefer to just not accept that there is any reason to honor such contracts for anybody. But it shouldn't be charged as "sex trafficking" either when that is a distortion of the real problem.
Porn icon Tera Patrick wrote (or co-wrote?) her memoirs under the title: "Sinner Takes All: A Memoir of Love and Porn". She was raised by her father. She attended a Barbizon modelling school who arranged for her to travel ALONE to Japan for normal modelling. No charges for "trafficking across continent borders" of course. She said she lost her virginity in Japan aged 14 but she also writes this:
"My dad had no idea how much of a tease I was becoming and how at the young age of 12, I was flirting with older men, kissing lots of boys, and using my sexuality to get what I wanted".
In the part where she describes losing her virginity in a rapey scene, she mentions (probably as a concession to orthodoxy) already having had a feeling at the time that what was happening "was wrong" (but she doesn't go as far as saying the experience was unpleasant rather than pleasurable). I haven't finished the book yet but I'd say it's worth reading if you are interested the life of oversexed women.
“I believe minors can consent…”
True, but they can also be criminally charged and be found guilty of sex crimes (obviously).
They can’t “consent”, but they can somehow be held accountable for doing exactly what they are deemed “victimized” for by the CJS. The system is so backwards, it’s completely unbelievable. How does the average person not pick up on this?
Thanks for this scholarly article about child sexuality. I read the full text which is available there. It's a bit of a word salad using many academic buzzwords from feminist, queer, and decolonial perspectives without saying a whole lot in particular and they avoid mentioning anything specific about age gaps. But the tone is extremely positive, there is no abuse hysteria, and some of these statements are very radical in our favor indeed if taken seriously:
They invite us to see childhood not as an abstract sexual risk group but as lived experiences occurring in specific contexts framed by power dynamics and possibilities for pleasure and eroticism. It is within this theoretical shift that we address childhood sexualities in the margins from which pleasure is being re-centered... Re-centering pleasure at the margins therefore confronts both colonial and heteropatriarchal logics, insisting that children’s own accounts of what feels good, exciting, or frightening are legitimate sources of knowledge. Thus, letting children “do” sexual pleasure in their own way is vital for their sense of their own agency. Yet, only by tracing the circuits in which race, class, gender, and age secure or foreclose pleasure can we theorize children’s sexual worlds.
That's certainly the right approach which is currently completely dismissed in the mainstream, but I would like to see more details about what exactly we find when we use this method? What happens when we don't put words in children's mouths that they have been "abused" just because there was something sexual?
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